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#1. OT - NASA Mid-Ohio HPDE - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 19:28:51 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <e36m3digest@ameritech.net> Subject: OT - NASA Mid-Ohio HPDE > From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> > Sorry about wasting everyone's bandwidth, but I had such a good time > yesterday I had to brag ;-). I did a HPDE with NASA at Mid-Ohio, my > first time driving that track and I just want to say that it's my new > favorite track. 2.4 miles, 15 turns, blind off camber turns, a > mixture of asphalt and concrete (with stripes of concrete in > unexpected places). Man, oh man, I wish I didn't live 400 miles away. > It is so much more difficult than other tracks I drive: Road America, > Gingerman, Blackhawk Farms, Autobahn CC that I am just in awe. We > had 5, 20 minute sessions, the first two being in torrential rain, the > rest mostly dry. Now I know why all the professional race groups run > there, I can't wipe the smile off my face. Indeed, there is also a similar problem in reverse, since Mid-Ohio is so close, it is difficult to get out and try other tracks... :-) Gee, rain while at Mid-Ohio, I can hardly believe that... ;-) > E36 Content: The Zionsville Autosport radiator I installed a couple > of weeks ago works well. My oil temperatures were a solid 20 degrees > less than usual for a 20 minute track session, right around 200 > degrees F. I had very similar results. With the radiator and the euro oil cooler, my oil is lucky to ever get warmer than 220 F. Regards, Rich
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#2. Re: Land Rover Discovery V8 possible tow vehicle? - from Vince Leo
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Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 16:55:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Vince Leo <m332is@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Land Rover Discovery V8 possible tow vehicle? Another CR was towing an open trailer and his JS e30 M3 with a Land Rover Discovery V8 and said it sucked... get a real tow vehicle. If you want a smaller tow vehicle, then get a Tahoe and an open trailer. Vince (tows with an '04 Burb 8.1 liter) I hate doing this but my M3 may end up being a semi-street vehicle after the I Stock CCA prep. I am thinking about purchasing a second vehicle and am looking into 00 Land Rover Discovery V8s. Max towing capacity is 5500lbs but I want to make sure the tranny etc. can hold up. Anyone has any experience with these? Thanks in advance, A.L. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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#3. RE: Compressor recommendations? - from M540
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Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 20:29:25 -0400 From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: Compressor recommendations? Hans, You're going to get a lot of "bigger is always better" recommendations and I'm not going to argue with them. If you have the room for a head-height water-heater tank sized cast-iron monster then by all means go for it. They aren't that much more expensive than a small one and will run your hobbies forever. I did not have the luxury of space, however, and after a lot of looking ended up going with the Porter-Cable C3550 Job Boss. This is a lot like those "double stack" compressors but with one larger tank. It isn't too loud, makes a fair amount of air, and is an oiled compressor so it should last for a while. I paid $329 delivered. My first job with this compressor was to change out front struts on my wife's M3. I bought an ancient (but big--400+ ft-lbs I think) Ingersoll-Rand impact wrench off eBay for $35 and went to town. On big frozen nuts I may have had to pause twice, for about 10 seconds, while the compressor caught up. If I was doing this for a living it would undoubtedly get annoying, but since I'm going to do something like this a few times a year I will gladly live with it in exchange for having a small, light, portable compressor. Just one approach. Kevin -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 19:07:27 -0400 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: Compressor recommendations? Gang, I'd like to buy one asap to do some suspension work and thought I would ask the collective wisdom of the digest re: recommendations. So far I have discovered the following: http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&p id=00916732000&tab=spe#tab I just saw the Sunday paper and this model is on "sale" for $329 with a free 10-pc tool kit (3/8" rachet, 1/2" impact wrench, air hammer, etc). Is this a decent compressor for a decent price? http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId =6970&productId=200197074&R=200197074 Do you think this "twin-stack" style of compressor would work for doing suspension stuff, etc? Thanks. Hans
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#4. Re: Compressor recommendations? - from Hans Batra
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Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 20:57:58 -0400 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Compressor recommendations? Hi Kevin, I appreciate your comments and suggestions. I think the PC would work just fine for me, given that I would use it at most 3-4 times a year. I tried to find the model you have but didn't have any luck. I did find this one however, which sounds very similar to the one you have: http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=4794 regards, Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> To: "'E36M3'" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Cc: <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 8:29 PM Subject: RE: Compressor recommendations? > Hans, > > You're going to get a lot of "bigger is always better" recommendations and > I'm not going to argue with them. If you have the room for a head-height > water-heater tank sized cast-iron monster then by all means go for it. > They > aren't that much more expensive than a small one and will run your hobbies > forever. I did not have the luxury of space, however, and after a lot of > looking ended up going with the Porter-Cable C3550 Job Boss. This is a > lot > like those "double stack" compressors but with one larger tank. It isn't > too loud, makes a fair amount of air, and is an oiled compressor so it > should last for a while. I paid $329 delivered. > > My first job with this compressor was to change out front struts on my > wife's M3. I bought an ancient (but big--400+ ft-lbs I think) > Ingersoll-Rand impact wrench off eBay for $35 and went to town. On big > frozen nuts I may have had to pause twice, for about 10 seconds, while the > compressor caught up. If I was doing this for a living it would > undoubtedly > get annoying, but since I'm going to do something like this a few times a > year I will gladly live with it in exchange for having a small, light, > portable compressor. > > Just one approach. > > Kevin > > -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 19:07:27 -0400 > From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> > Subject: Compressor recommendations? > > Gang, > > I'd like to buy one asap to do some suspension work and thought I would > ask > the collective wisdom of the digest re: recommendations. So far I have > discovered the following: > > http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&p > id=00916732000&tab=spe#tab > > I just saw the Sunday paper and this model is on "sale" for $329 with a > free > > 10-pc tool kit (3/8" rachet, 1/2" impact wrench, air hammer, etc). Is > this > a decent compressor for a decent price? > > http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId > =6970&productId=200197074&R=200197074 > > Do you think this "twin-stack" style of compressor would work for doing > suspension stuff, etc? > > Thanks. > Hans > >
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Compressor recommendations? - from Eric Carlson
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Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 21:08:13 -0400 From: "Eric Carlson" <eric@bluehammock.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Compressor recommendations? The only recommendation I have is to get an oil-based compressor. The oil-free variants are horribly loud when running and have a lower life expectancy. The Sears Professional line uses oil, but not the "red" consumer versions. 25 gallon+ and 4hp+ recommended. - Eric ________________________________ From: Hans Batra [mailto:hansbatra@yahoo.com] Sent: Sat 8/6/2005 7:08 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Compressor recommendations? Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 19:07:27 -0400 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: Compressor recommendations? Gang, I'd like to buy one asap to do some suspension work and thought I would ask the collective wisdom of the digest re: recommendations. So far I have discovered the following: http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00916732000&tab=spe#tab <http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00916732000&tab=spe#tab> I just saw the Sunday paper and this model is on "sale" for $329 with a free 10-pc tool kit (3/8" rachet, 1/2" impact wrench, air hammer, etc). Is this a decent compressor for a decent price? http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=200197074&R=200197074 <http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=200197074&R=200197074> Do you think this "twin-stack" style of compressor would work for doing suspension stuff, etc? Thanks. Hans
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#6. RE: Compressor recommendations? - from M540
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Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 00:19:37 -0400 From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: Compressor recommendations? Hans, I think that is the maintenance-free (not oil-lubricated) version of the same compressor. It actually has better stats than mine but I was worried about longevity and noise level, both of which are rumored to be less good with oil-free models. The durability may be a foolish worry for me since I too rarely use the compressor. This one at Amazon is the same as mine but with wheels. (C3551) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000B3ARN/qid=1123388002/sr=8 -5/ref=pd_bbs_sbs_5/103-8981456-5172632?v=glance&s=hi&n=507846 Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Hans Batra [mailto:hansbatra@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 8:58 PM To: M540; E36M3 Subject: Re: Compressor recommendations? Hi Kevin, I appreciate your comments and suggestions. I think the PC would work just fine for me, given that I would use it at most 3-4 times a year. I tried to find the model you have but didn't have any luck. I did find this one however, which sounds very similar to the one you have: http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=4794 regards, Hans
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#7. Re: Compressor recommendations? - from Matthew Finlay
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Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 00:52:45 -0500 From: Matthew Finlay <matthew.finlay@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Compressor recommendations? I own a Sears model, virtually identical to that item, with the exception that I have a 6 hp motor on top (and I got it for exactly that price, with the free tool kit, on clearance), and I don't think I want anything smaller than that. It takes 10 minutes to fill the tank as it is, and it is loud as fireworks the whole time. With compressors, you can "make do" with something pretty much completely inadequate, depending on your level of patience. The more important pieces for bare bones adequacy are the impact wrench you are using (most basic 1/2 inch models seem to rate to just under 300 ft-lbs of torque) and the max psi of the tank. If you buy the Sears model you suggested, it will take a very long time to fill the system, but you'll be able to get enough psi out of it to use any impact wrench you want. Once you drop below the operating pressure, you'll have to wait until it fills up again before continuing, which will take its sweet time. The horsepower of the motor will also help you in continuous-use applications. High hp motors will deliver more air per time unit than low hp units. As a result, it is conceivably possible to hook up a high hp motor to a small tank and be able to keep working without stopping for it to fill. Unfortunately, the small twin stack you have there is a small hp motor hooked up to a small tank system. That means not only will you have to wait for it to fill up, but it will be filling up *all the time* and you will have to stop frequently to get any work done. Bottom line: 1. you can make due with the 2hp compressor, but I would recommend something a bit heavier; 2. you might need a heavier impact wrench than provided in the free kit 3. steer clear of the twin stack - it's fine for blowing up balls and checking your tire pressure, but I don't know anyone patient enough to use it for any serious car work. Long reply, but I hope it answers what you need to know. -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 19:07:27 -0400 > From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> > Subject: Compressor recommendations? > > Gang, > > I'd like to buy one asap to do some suspension work and thought I would > ask > the collective wisdom of the digest re: recommendations. So far I have > discovered the following: > > > http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00916732000&tab=spe#tab > > I just saw the Sunday paper and this model is on "sale" for $329 with a > free > 10-pc tool kit (3/8" rachet, 1/2" impact wrench, air hammer, etc). Is this > a decent compressor for a decent price? > > > http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=200197074&R=200197074 > > Do you think this "twin-stack" style of compressor would work for doing > suspension stuff, etc? > > Thanks. > Hans > > > -- > Matthew S Finlay
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#8. Re: [E36M3] OT - NASA Mid-Ohio HPDE - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 10:11:11 -0500 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT - NASA Mid-Ohio HPDE > Indeed, there is also a similar problem in reverse, since Mid-Ohio is so > close, it is difficult to get out and try other tracks... That's a problem? > Gee, rain while at Mid-Ohio, I can hardly believe that... ;-) The NASA guys who ran there in April said they had 8" of snow. The track management had to plow the track before they could get started. > I had very similar results. With the radiator and the euro oil cooler, my > oil is lucky to ever get warmer than 220 F. Yes, it is probably the most expensive route, but the additional cooling and lifetime warranty are worth it IMO. Regards -- Jamie Howton 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: Land Rover Discovery V8 possible tow vehicle? - from Mel Silva
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Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 10:21:41 -0500 From: Mel Silva <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Land Rover Discovery V8 possible tow vehicle? Another data point: I read recently that the Land Rover Discovery has the absolute worst rating from consumer reports for the first three years of ownership. Apparently, they spend as much time in the shop as they do on the road. Mel Vince Leo wrote: >Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 16:55:23 -0700 (PDT) >From: Vince Leo <m332is@yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: Land Rover Discovery V8 possible tow vehicle? > >Another CR was towing an open trailer and his JS e30 >M3 with a Land Rover Discovery V8 and said it >sucked... get a real tow vehicle. If you want a >smaller tow vehicle, then get a Tahoe and an open >trailer. > >Vince >(tows with an '04 Burb 8.1 liter) > >I hate doing this but my M3 may end up being a >semi-street vehicle >after the >I Stock CCA prep. > >I am thinking about purchasing a second vehicle and am >looking into 00 >Land >Rover Discovery V8s. Max towing capacity is 5500lbs >but I want to make >sure >the tranny etc. can hold up. Anyone has any experience >with these? > >Thanks in advance, > >A.L. > > >
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#10. RE: [E36M3] OT - NASA Mid-Ohio HPDE - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 11:25:07 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <e36m3digest@ameritech.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] OT - NASA Mid-Ohio HPDE > > Indeed, there is also a similar problem in reverse, since Mid-Ohio is so > > close, it is difficult to get out and try other tracks... > > That's a problem? Well, if you want to get out and try some other tracks, and get Gerry L to stop bugging you to come to the far reaches of Canada... :-) I will be fabbing up a trailer for my car this winter so getting to other tracks will be easier next year. > > Gee, rain while at Mid-Ohio, I can hardly believe that... ;-) > > The NASA guys who ran there in April said they had 8" of snow. The > track management had to plow the track before they could get started. I have been there when there were snow flurries and it was very cold, but not quite that bad. I have been there where rain was so severe, Sunday track time was essentially cancelled. > > I had very similar results. With the radiator and the euro oil > cooler, my > > oil is lucky to ever get warmer than 220 F. > > Yes, it is probably the most expensive route, but the additional > cooling and lifetime warranty are worth it IMO. Agreed. Rich