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#1. RE: [E36M3] Caster / Camber plate recomendations? - from Tom Clark (toclark)
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:22:47 -0400 From: "Tom Clark (toclark)" <toclark@cisco.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Caster / Camber plate recomendations? I have TC Kline's on my car and am very pleased with them. www.tcklineracing.com A friend of mine has Ground Control's and like them a lot. www.ground-control.com YMMV Tom -----Original Message----- From: Gus Iverson [mailto:gus.iverson@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:09 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Caster / Camber plate recomendations? Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:06:02 -0700 From: Gus Iverson <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Caster / Camber plate recomendations? I understand there are some junk parts out there and some good ones. I really don't know how to tell the difference - any recomendations for a good caster / camber plate which will hold up to after market springs / shocks? Thanks ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Caster / Camber plate recomendations? - from Bruce H
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:57:29 +0000 From: gobuffs93@comcast.net (Bruce H) Subject: Re: [E36M3] Caster / Camber plate recomendations? I had a set of GC ones on my E30 M3 track car. I really didn't like them. I have a set of Motor Force camber plates ordered my new E30 M3 track car. I saw a set of my friends and I like them a lot better than the GC. Not as bad to install as the GC units. Stack height is smaller. The main advantage is by changing the upper spring perch you can use stock (or stock like) springs or aftermarket coilover type springs. Bruce -------------- Original message -------------- > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:06:02 -0700 > From: Gus Iverson > Subject: Caster / Camber plate recomendations? > > I understand there are some junk parts out there and some good ones. I > really don't know how to tell the difference - any recomendations for > a good caster / camber plate which will hold up to after market > springs / shocks? > > Thanks > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#3. Free camber! - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:49:58 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Free camber! Team, I installed by H&R Race springs with Bilsteins (bump stops removed). During install, I swapped the hats (I have a 96+ car). With the drop in height and the strut swap, I now have -3.5 camber up front (had a 1 mm shim but removed it since it passed the -3.5 mark required by BMW CCA I Stock rules). I already have a 95 control arm bushing to get a bit more caster (7.2 degrees). Just an FYI. A.L.
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Center console 'upgrade' - from estorilphil@adelphia.net
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:12:12 -0400 From: <estorilphil@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Center console 'upgrade' Thanks to everyone that responded and offered their suggestions and helpful insights. :-) Looks like my options are: 1. Remove ALL the compartments (coin tray, ash tray, cup holders...etc etc) and in the process also remove the "housing" that holds all the compartments. From the picture Andrej sent, it actually looks pretty decent. 2. Replace ashtray with storage box (#82 27 9 407 927, courtesy of JB) and replace cointray + broken cup holder with another storage box. Or keep the ashtray but replae the coin tray + broken cup holder with storage box. 3. Replace everything (?) with the "cassette storage" (#65 14 9 433 034) that John firestone recommended. I think it comes down to the barely-functional cupholder. If I want to keep it I'll have to go with option 2. So I'll think about that for a bit... Thanks... :-) Phil '99 M3/2 <-- w/ 1.5 cupholders '96 Suburban <-- w/ 10 cupholders but only 1 really functional ---- Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 23:45:01 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Center console 'upgrade' > > On Tue, August 9, 2005 11:08 am, Jim Bassett said: > > From RealOEM.com for my '98 M3: > > 19 STORING PARTITION 51164211331 ENDED > > > > Ended? Bummer. I can double-check the part number when I get home - I > > think I have it somewhere. > > The label on the box my partition came in (currently still holding the > removed ashtray :-)) is: > 82 27 9 407 927 > > Jim Bassett >
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#5. Will they fit? - from mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:23:07 -0400 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Will they fit? Group, Has anyone run Yoko Advan A032r 255/40/17 on 8" wide wheels. Josh, at TireRack tells me the spec is 8.5" minimum, however he tells me some SCCA competitors do run them on smaller...8" wheels. The Yoko's seem to run slightly smaller then nominal size. I have run Kumho's in 245 width (9.9" wide) on my wheels, and the Yoko's are 10.1" for the 255's. Any help would be appreciated. Also, I'm not worried about rubbing, fenders are rolled and have spacers up front. As always, TIA. Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA #13 BSP
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Will they fit? - from Jason Knight
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Will they fit? I've got 235/40/17 A032Rs on my IFG 17 x 8 inch wheels, and the place that mounted them said that they were very difficult to mount. Not the definitive answer you were looking for of course..... Jason --- mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:23:07 -0400 > From: mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Will they fit? > > Group, > > Has anyone run Yoko Advan A032r 255/40/17 on 8" wide > wheels. Josh, at TireRack tells me the spec is 8.5" > minimum, however he tells me some SCCA competitors > do run them on smaller...8" wheels. The Yoko's seem > to run slightly smaller then nominal size. I have > run Kumho's in 245 width (9.9" wide) on my wheels, > and the Yoko's are 10.1" for the 255's. Any help > would be appreciated. Also, I'm not worried about > rubbing, fenders are rolled and have spacers up > front. > > As always, TIA. > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe > Philly Region SCCA > #13 BSP > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Will they fit? - from docwyte@comcast.net
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:51:10 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Will they fit? They'll fit, but that's not the optimal wheel size for a 255... -------------- Original message -------------- > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:23:07 -0400 > From: mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Will they fit? > > Group, > > Has anyone run Yoko Advan A032r 255/40/17 on 8" wide wheels. Josh, at TireRack > tells me the spec is 8.5" minimum, however he tells me some SCCA competitors do > run them on smaller...8" wheels. The Yoko's seem to run slightly smaller then > nominal size. I have run Kumho's in 245 width (9.9" wide) on my wheels, and the > Yoko's are 10.1" for the 255's. Any help would be appreciated. Also, I'm not > worried about rubbing, fenders are rolled and have spacers up front. > > As always, TIA. > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe > Philly Region SCCA > #13 BSP > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Will they fit? - from cteague@cox.net
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 18:54:18 -0400 From: <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Will they fit? Bob, I'm sure you can find someone to squeeze them on, but that's far from an optimum wheel for a 255. They really should be on 9" wheels. An 8" wheel is a good size for a 235. Chris > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:23:07 -0400 > From: mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Will they fit? > > Group, > > Has anyone run Yoko Advan A032r 255/40/17 on 8" wide wheels. Josh, at TireRack tells me the spec is 8.5" minimum, however he tells me some SCCA competitors do run them on smaller...8" wheels. The Yoko's seem to run slightly smaller then nominal size. I have run Kumho's in 245 width (9.9" wide) on my wheels, and the Yoko's are 10.1" for the 255's. Any help would be appreciated. Also, I'm not worried about rubbing, fenders are rolled and have spacers up front. > > As always, TIA.
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Coilover Upgrade - Order Placed! - from Alan Leung
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:55:31 -0500 From: "Alan Leung" <alanleung100@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coilover Upgrade - Order Placed! James at BW is having some touring car fun at Denver so I spoke with Rob and I finally settled on: GC Race SA Coilover (500F/600R) w/ Hybrid plates and Spherical RSM GC Adjustable Rear Lower Control Arm & Weight Jack Powerflex RTAB X-brace & UUC Transmission Mount Enforcer And I want to thank Dave D, Bill T, Jay H, Carlos L, Shane K, Jim B, Rich D, "Doc" Josh, Mo K, Scott K, Kim B, Tom T for all your advices on spring rate, RSM, RTAB, camber plate, strut bar, strut reinforcement plates, rear control arm, weight jack .... I appreciate all your inputs to help me sort out the pros and cons of each option. Regarding a couple more "inflammatory" choices ... GC rear control arm because there are some bad experience on the Rogue unit and the UUC option is significantly more expensive. Powerflex RTAB because I want something more durable and rigid and it sounds like by now they've got it right. I put the money originally for the strut bar and reinforcement plates towards the weight jack. Now just a few more questions: 1] Which bolts should I be using locktite on when I reassemble everything? 2] What lube should I use on the Powerflex? Does the Victory RTAB tool work on it? 3] Specifically which Mobil 1 grease should I use on the camber plate to reduce pop? 4] I'm planning on following the H&R coilover write-up on bmw-m.net. Any other supplemental write-up I should get myself familiar with before I start tearing things out? 5] For parts like the convex washers on the front strut and outer ball joint on the rear lower control arms I plan on ordering them through realOEM. Any better choices out there? I'm so glad that there is such a great list with so many knowledgable M3 owners. Thanks again. Alan 95 M3 - finally getting some new legs before the 100k mark
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Coilover Upgrade - Order Placed! - from Chris Teague
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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:14:48 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coilover Upgrade - Order Placed! Alan, As for #1, all of them can have blue locktite (the removable kind). As for #2, you only need the tool to remove the OE bushing (or install). The powerflex bushings will press in by hand. You should use the lube that comes with the powerflex bushing. I have the powerflex subframe bushings. However, for the RTAB, that's one does not rotate around the bolt, so as the suspension compresses, it will tend to bind up the powerflex bushings. Race cars should go to a bearing style bushings. Street cars I prefer using OE bushings with the ground control shims. That will still allow some flexibility to help avoid it binding up. That's my $0.02. Let us know how it all works, and how you like it when you are done. Chris ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:55:31 -0500 > From: "Alan Leung" <alanleung100@hotmail.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coilover Upgrade - Order Placed! > 1] Which bolts should I be using locktite on when I reassemble > everything? > > 2] What lube should I use on the Powerflex? Does the Victory RTAB tool > work on it? >