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#1. RE: [E36M3] RE: Shifting woes - 2nd plea for help - from Matthew Teel
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Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:14:01 -0800 From: "Matthew Teel" <mteel@beluga.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Shifting woes - 2nd plea for help Jim asked: > Did the original poster get a copy of the Roundel article? I > haven't put it up on my web host yet, and another list member > made a good point yesterday about not putting it up on the > Web, it being copyrighted material. I did thank you! Now I have to resolve what to do about the clutch while I'm in there mucking about. Matthew 98 M3/4
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Oil Cooler Report [Part 2] - from Andrew Kalman
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Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:23:01 -0700 From: Andrew Kalman <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil Cooler Report [Part 2] My motor is still stock. On its fourth head gasket (1 / original blew, 2 never sealed, 3 I f@#$ed up, 4's a charm). Stock cams, stock ECU, stock intake, etc. Head hasn't even been shaved. IOW, I resisted the temptation to change things when I did the head gasket. Hopefully it'll last another 7500 track miles. It does have a valve job (with stock valves & springs), but that's mainly because there was no margin left on several exhaust valves when I did the gasket. Better than stock? Perhaps, but that really only makes a difference at low lifts. On track, you're pretty much wide-open all the time, so I doubt I've gained any hp. It may be time for me to finally get a real suspension, as I'm shredding my tires at an alarming rate due to all the lean ... >--- Andrew Kalman <aek@pumpkininc.com> wrote: >> I run the bigger / Euro radiator with a box-stock motor. If I were >> making a lot more than 240hp I suppose I would look at installing the >> cooler. > >That statement isn't entirely true anymore!! :) Reminds me of a guy that >Wayne, Jim and I met at the track last year. He had an evo that was >a monster. > When he lifted at the end of the straight, there would be 3 feet of fire out >of the exhaust! We asked him what he's done to the car and he said >that it was >stock. We were impressed. After talking some more, we come to find that it >had cams. His response after we called him on it, "O...everyone does >cams...it's a throwaway!" WTF? He then had a whole after market suspension >and a few other things...I forgot. > >Chester -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com
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#3. RE: [E36M3] RE: Shifting woes - 2nd plea for help - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:26:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Shifting woes - 2nd plea for help On Thu, August 18, 2005 11:20 am, Matthew Teel said: > I did thank you! Excellent. One less thing I have to do while getting ready for the Thunderhill school :-) > Now I have to resolve what to do about the clutch while I'm in there > mucking > about. Plan on replacing it, and more importantly, the throw-out bearing. I went through a similar situation when I recently had the rear main seal replaced on the race car. Clutch disc was replaced back in 1999 and was still in good shape, but the TO bearing was on it's way out, so my mechanic went ahead and did a clutch job. Everything was right there ready for replacing, and knowing my luck, if I *didn't* do it now, the TO bearing would fail in 6 months...at the track :-) My 2 cents, Jim Bassett
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#4. RE: [E36M3] Oil Cooler Report [Part 2] - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:29:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil Cooler Report [Part 2] O wait. I remember you mentioning machining done to the head, but that was for the valve seats, correct? For some reason, I remembered it as a port & polish :) I take it back then :) Chester --- Andrew Kalman <aek@pumpkininc.com> wrote: > My motor is still stock. On its fourth head gasket (1 / original > blew, 2 never sealed, 3 I f@#$ed up, 4's a charm). Stock cams, stock > ECU, stock intake, etc. Head hasn't even been shaved. > > IOW, I resisted the temptation to change things when I did the head > gasket. Hopefully it'll last another 7500 track miles. > > It does have a valve job (with stock valves & springs), but that's > mainly because there was no margin left on several exhaust valves > when I did the gasket. Better than stock? Perhaps, but that really > only makes a difference at low lifts. On track, you're pretty much > wide-open all the time, so I doubt I've gained any hp. > > It may be time for me to finally get a real suspension, as I'm > shredding my tires at an alarming rate due to all the lean ...
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Oil Cooler Report [Part 2] - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:34:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil Cooler Report [Part 2] On Thu, August 18, 2005 11:30 am, Andrew Kalman said: > It may be time for me to finally get a real suspension, as I'm > shredding my tires at an alarming rate due to all the lean ... LOL! Ya think? Jim Bassett - watched Andrew scrape his door handles as he passed me at THill on Sunday :-)
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#6. need to borrow/rent Fender roller - from Peter
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Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:34:34 -0500 From: Peter <JPWheelr@dakarm3.com> Subject: need to borrow/rent Fender roller Does anyone have one available? Maybe even local to me (saint louis missouri)? Will pay shipping both ways, will compensate for use. Thanks. Peter Saint Louis, MO
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#7. RE: Shifting woes - Now Clutch - from Matthew Teel
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Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:41:22 -0800 From: "Matthew Teel" <mteel@beluga.com> Subject: RE: Shifting woes - Now Clutch I definitely wouldn't go in there without replacing the TO bearing. What I am considering is whether or not to stay with a stock clutch or upgrade it, possibly even the flywheel with it. My engine is still bone stock. I have reserved that for last preferring to focus on mods to the suspension, chassis and brakes, and only then when the original components finally showed signs of wear. I definitely want to make more horsepower, just how much more is undecided. So... I am thinking maybe I should plan for the best case scenario and put in a beefy clutch that can handle a lot of horsepower and thus avoid doing the whole thing all over again at a later date. Make sense? Matthew 98 M3/4 > Plan on replacing it, and more importantly, the throw-out bearing. > > I went through a similar situation when I recently had the > rear main seal replaced on the race car. Clutch disc was > replaced back in 1999 and was still in good shape, but the TO > bearing was on it's way out, so my mechanic went ahead and > did a clutch job. Everything was right there ready for > replacing, and knowing my luck, if I *didn't* do it now, the > TO bearing would fail in 6 months...at the track :-) > > My 2 cents, > Jim Bassett
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#8. RE: ...anyone using this? - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:42:33 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: ...anyone using this? I think their point is that the oil returning to the sump is carrying more heat than that of oil being monitored for temperature at the filter housing (which is generally the other sensor location of choice). Oil is lubricating and absorbing heat as it travels through the pump and cylinder head/block/crank journals/cam journals before returning to the sump. KLBurgess -------------------- 11 -------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:59:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] anyone using this? I'm not sure what the whole sales pitch is with that particular product. They talk about accuracy of oil temp and how by measuring from the sump, it gives you a better idea of the oil temp that is lubricating the engine and how the oil gets hotter from the pump, etc.. So how does the engine get lubricated? From the sloshing oil in the pan? No...from the oil after the oil pump. Does their claim make sense to anyone?? Chester --- marco <m3driver@iname.com> wrote: > http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=TEN9990001 <
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#9. Re: [E36M3] RE: ...anyone using this? - from mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:57:31 -0400 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: ...anyone using this? I really think we're splitting hairs here...IMHO Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA #13 BSP -----Original Message----- From: Burgess, Kim L <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:50:20 -0500 Subject: [E36M3] RE: ...anyone using this? Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:42:33 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: ...anyone using this? I think their point is that the oil returning to the sump is carrying more heat than that of oil being monitored for temperature at the filter housing (which is generally the other sensor location of choice). Oil is lubricating and absorbing heat as it travels through the pump and cylinder head/block/crank journals/cam journals before returning to the sump. KLBurgess -------------------- 11 -------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:59:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] anyone using this? I'm not sure what the whole sales pitch is with that particular product. They talk about accuracy of oil temp and how by measuring from the sump, it gives you a better idea of the oil temp that is lubricating the engine and how the oil gets hotter from the pump, etc.. So how does the engine get lubricated? From the sloshing oil in the pan? No...from the oil after the oil pump. Does their claim make sense to anyone?? Chester --- marco <m3driver@iname.com> wrote: > http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=TEN9990001 < ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#10. speaking of oil - from mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:05:20 -0400 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: speaking of oil I'm a Mobil 1 user...it works well for me. Has anyone noticed that the 15W50 grade only seems to come in the Extended Life formula lately, which costs about $4.00 more for the 5gal. container?! I've checked my Wal-Marts, and Advanced AutoParts stores, same thing. Is this Mobil's way to extract more money from me? Inquiring minds want to know. TIA, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA #13 BSP
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#11. Re: [E36M3] RE: ...anyone using this? - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:07:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: ...anyone using this? My point exactly. You're glancing at the oil temp gauge and unless you have a digital one, you wouldn't be able to tell 5 degrees difference. Also, how is the sump a true measure of the oil temp? Because it just came back from the block? But isn't that also where most of the cooling takes place (if you don't have an oil cooler)? From their description, it sounded like the temp obtained at the oil filter housing would be elevated than the sump and that this inaccuracy was not desired even though it's this oil that will go into the block/head. Also, that whole part about clutter, etc doesn't make sense. Yeah, I want a sender and wire to be at the pan vs. neatly tucked away near the oil filter canister. Chester --- mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:57:31 -0400 > From: mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: ...anyone using this? > > I really think we're splitting hairs here...IMHO