E36M3 #4449

Sunday, August 28, 2005 00:20:08

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 - from Stan Shaw
#2. Re: [E36M3] Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 - from Jamie Howton
#3. Re: [E36M3] Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 - from Jamie Howton
#4. Re: [E36M3] Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 - from Stan Shaw
#5. Rear "Camber Bolts"? - from dhogg
#6. Re: Front Strut Steering Knuckle Nut - from kim.burgess@att.net
#7. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 - from marco
#8. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear "Camber Bolts"? - from marco
#9. Car Enthusiast in OKC? - from Hans Batra
#10. Hankook RS2's First impression. - from Rich Dorffer

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#1. Re: Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 - from Stan Shaw
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Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 02:06:45 -0400 From: "Stan Shaw" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: Re: Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 No, this wasn't a question of them replacing the bushings. I had just changed the steering rack, so was getting the front toe set. They weren't performing any repair work, just setting the alignment. I will call and ask on Monday what tool they lacked if that is what is suggested. I am going to do the rear bushings next anyways, as I replaced everything up front now. I intend to use PowerFlex in the rear as I did in the front, the car is a combination street/track car with TC Kline Trackline suspension, etc. Regards, Stan Shaw Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 Excell.Net Owner/Operator http://www.Excell.Net/ 928 Owners Club President http://www.928OC.org/ 928Racing.net Team Member http://www.928Racing.net/ "Liberty once lost is lost forever." - John Adams

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 07:45:00 -0500 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 Stan, The only tools required to adjust the rear toe on E36s are a 17mm(or18mm, I can't remember) socket with about a 6" extension, ratcheting socket handle and a pry bar of some type. They are obviously confused, or lazy, maybe both. -- Jamie Howton 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 07:54:35 -0500 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 > Also, will replacing my @155k mile rear control arm bushings impact the toe setting? Yes, and this is more than likely the reason that they couldn't adjust your rear toe to within specs. If the rear trailing arm bushings are worn out (which they definately are at 155K miles) then one of them could be torn to the point that the rear trailing arm is resting in a position far from normal. The rear toe is adjusted on these cars by adjusting the carrier that the rear trailing arm bushing (RTAB) is attached to. The wheel bearing is mounted into the trailing arm. The RTAB is the front mount point of the trailing arm, moving the front of the trailing arm in and out within the chassis, moves the front of the wheel in and out. Replace the RTABS ASAP, the handling of the car will be much better; all of that squirminess in the rear under braking and acceleration will be gone. Jamie Howton 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 - from Stan Shaw
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Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 10:03:01 -0400 From: "Stan Shaw" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 Interesting though that on my review, the bushings "look" fine. I will replace them nonetheless. Regards, Stan Shaw Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 Excell.Net Owner/Operator http://www.Excell.Net/ 928 Owners Club President http://www.928OC.org/ 928Racing.net Team Member http://www.928Racing.net/ "Liberty once lost is lost forever." - John Adams

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#5. Rear "Camber Bolts"? - from dhogg
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Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:17:29 -0400 From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> Subject: Rear "Camber Bolts"? Does anyone know what these are and where to get them? I'm told that they're legal in IS and they can give a lot more rear camber than the stock adjustment. TIA. Dave Hogg

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#6. Re: Front Strut Steering Knuckle Nut - from kim.burgess@att.net
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Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:56:35 +0000 From: kim.burgess@att.net Subject: Re: Front Strut Steering Knuckle Nut Alan - I'm thinking that nut “07 12 9 964 661” is NLA. -------------------- 6 -------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:18:27 -0500 From: "Alan Leung" <alanleung100@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front Strut Steering Knuckle Nut Does anyone know if there is any difference between the two #6 nuts in the link? http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BF93&mospid=47486&btnr=31_0420&hg= 31&fg=10 My car is a 95 M3. Thanks! Alan

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#7. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 - from marco
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Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 21:55:15 -0700 From: "marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 You can't just "look" at them. You have to jack up the car, get a prybar or a BFS and put some leverage on the control arm where it connects to the body (by the 3 bolts) and look at the area in the bushing where the bolt goes through the bushing. If you see any cracks they are toast. Use a flashlight and wear glasses, if you don't when you are peering up at the bushing and moving the control arm around I guarantee you'll get an eye full of dirt. Another way is to get on a straight away, and in third or second gear romp on the gas. If the car pulls to one side or the other on acceleration but doesn't while under light or no throttle that is an indication your bushings are bad. Or your toe is way out of spec. But you already knew that ;-) Marco -----Original Message----- From: Stan Shaw [mailto:Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 7:10 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 10:03:01 -0400 From: "Stan Shaw" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear Toe Adjustment on '96 M3 Interesting though that on my review, the bushings "look" fine. I will replace them nonetheless. Regards, Stan Shaw Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 Excell.Net Owner/Operator http://www.Excell.Net/ 928 Owners Club President http://www.928OC.org/ 928Racing.net Team Member http://www.928Racing.net/ "Liberty once lost is lost forever." - John Adams ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#8. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear "Camber Bolts"? - from marco
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Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 21:55:55 -0700 From: "marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear "Camber Bolts"? never heard of rear ones. only front. Marco -----Original Message----- From: dhogg [mailto:dhogg@suscom.net] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 10:20 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear "Camber Bolts"? Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:17:29 -0400 From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> Subject: Rear "Camber Bolts"? Does anyone know what these are and where to get them? I'm told that they're legal in IS and they can give a lot more rear camber than the stock adjustment. TIA. Dave Hogg ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#9. Car Enthusiast in OKC? - from Hans Batra
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Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:02:13 -0400 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: Car Enthusiast in OKC? Does anyone live in or around OKC? If you do, please email me privately. Thanks. Hans

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#10. Hankook RS2's First impression. - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:14:15 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <e36m3digest@ameritech.net> Subject: Hankook RS2's First impression. > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Hankook RS2's First impression. > > I have those on the Elise and perhaps it was the mold release > compound or maybe > the fact that I was coming off of running the sport package R > compounds, but > they weren't that grippy. They seemed to have settled in, but I'm a bit > nervous pushing them... I have the new Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 on my M3, couldn't recommend them more. The dry and wet grip are the best I have experienced. Dry grip is equal to or better than the old MXX3 and wet grip is better than any tire I have used. I also have the new Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 on my 325is, those too are fantastic. Another plus is that they are both non-directional tires making rotation more feasible. I got my wife the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S on her Accord, those seem to be pretty decent as well. Those are directional but rotation is easier on her car. Later, Rich

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