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#1. Re: [E36M3] H&R Race with Kosei K1s? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:39:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] H&R Race with Kosei K1s? On Wed, August 31, 2005 2:19 pm, Ahmad Lutfeali said: > Question, would 10mm be okay to run with these? Anyone out there with this > setup? Any comments? TIA I would think that 10mm would be OK - we're talking about the 8.5" Kosei's, yes? And since you are in Stock class you still have the OE strut housings, and as we all know, 8.5", 41mm offset wheels will fit with 245 tires with NO spacer :-) So the concern would be the 255 tire rubbing the strut. Heck, maybe a 5mm would be OK. Sorry, all I've got is guess-work, since being in Prepared I have height-adjustable shocks up front, and can run the Kosei's and 255 Kumhos woth no spacers (the wheels even clear - easily - the AP brakes). But the different struts give me a bit more inside clearance, so YMMV. (I believe MarkD uses a 5mm spacer on his JP car, FWIW). My 2 cents, Jim Bassett
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#2. Re: [E36M3] H&R Race with Kosei K1s? - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:43:27 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] H&R Race with Kosei K1s? On Aug 31, 2005, at 2:39 PM, Jim Bassett wrote: > Sorry, all I've got is guess-work, since being in Prepared I have > height-adjustable shocks up front, and can run the Kosei's and 255 > Kumhos > woth no spacers (the wheels even clear - easily - the AP brakes). > But the > different struts give me a bit more inside clearance, so YMMV. > > (I believe MarkD uses a 5mm spacer on his JP car, FWIW). I do, but I'm using AD race coilovers up front. Those 17x8.5 Koseis are ET38, BTW. - Mark ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar
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#3. RE: [E36M3] H&R Race with Kosei K1s? - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:58:36 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] H&R Race with Kosei K1s? Jim, Yes we are talking about the 8.5 inch Kosei's. Theoretically, it should work, but a lot of times (blame my damn luck) things have not been working out as they seem, especially when I am building a race car ;) Somehow my H&R race springs sits lower than any other H&R race springs I have seen (cant do a comparison with stock heights since I had Eibachs before). Thanks again, Ahmad -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 5:40 PM To: Ahmad Lutfeali Cc: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] H&R Race with Kosei K1s? On Wed, August 31, 2005 2:19 pm, Ahmad Lutfeali said: > Question, would 10mm be okay to run with these? Anyone out there with > this setup? Any comments? TIA I would think that 10mm would be OK - we're talking about the 8.5" Kosei's, yes? And since you are in Stock class you still have the OE strut housings, and as we all know, 8.5", 41mm offset wheels will fit with 245 tires with NO spacer :-) So the concern would be the 255 tire rubbing the strut. Heck, maybe a 5mm would be OK. Sorry, all I've got is guess-work, since being in Prepared I have height-adjustable shocks up front, and can run the Kosei's and 255 Kumhos woth no spacers (the wheels even clear - easily - the AP brakes). But the different struts give me a bit more inside clearance, so YMMV. (I believe MarkD uses a 5mm spacer on his JP car, FWIW). My 2 cents, Jim Bassett
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#4. Re: [E36M3] H&R Race with Kosei K1s? - from twisty M3
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:02:38 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] H&R Race with Kosei K1s? << I would think that 10mm would be OK - we're talking about the 8.5 Kosei's, yes? And since you are in Stock class you still have the OE strut housings, and as we all know, 8.5, 41mm offset wheels will fit with 245 tires with NO spacer :-) So the concern would be the 255 tire rubbing the strut. Heck, maybe a 5mm would be OK. >> I only have the H&R Sports, but that wouldn't effect strut clearance anyway. I ran the 255 Corsas (blech!!!) on my Koseis with no spacers and no rubbing. I now have 255 Toyo RA-1s however, and I need to run a 5mm spacer on the front. The rubbing wasn't bad, but it was noticeable, so I run the 5mm spacers to be safe. Jonathan L.
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#5. Re: [E36M3] H&R Race with Kosei K1s? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:08:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] H&R Race with Kosei K1s? On Wed, August 31, 2005 2:49 pm, Mark Dadgar said: > I do, but I'm using AD race coilovers up front. Which are either a bit wider or have a bigger height adjuster, compared to my Bilsteins, IIRC. > Those 17x8.5 Koseis are ET38, BTW. Ahh. Which would make them 3mm more outboard compared to stock? Jim Bassett
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#6. RE: End Link Torque? - from Jeremy Conners
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:14:35 -0400 From: "Jeremy Conners" <jeremy.conners@comcast.net> Subject: RE: End Link Torque? The TIS reads: Stabilizer link on spring strut shock absorber and stabilizer: 59 N*m Note: Wrench surface on ball head must be parallel to the shock absorber axis. Bracket for stabilizer link on control arm: 42 N*m Best regards, Jeremy 97 M3 // -----Original Message----- // From: twisty M3 [mailto:twistym3@hotmail.com] // Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:10 PM // To: E36M3 // Subject: [E36M3] Quick Temp Guage? Quick but temporary oil burn? End Link // Torque? // // <SNIP> // // 3) As I was putting my street wheels (which were almost impossible to get // off due to over tightening) back on the car last night, I checked for // some // front suspension rattling I'd heard since leaving the shop. I though it // was // just a backed off end link nut, so I went to check the tightness... the // nut // sheared right off. Just picked up a replacement from the dealer (ouch!!) // and will put it on tonight... Is there a specific torque spec to use on // these nuts, or just as tight as my wimpy cordless impact will get 'em. // // Thanks to all, and I too will gladly offer good karma to all responders. // ;) // // Jonathan L. //
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#7. Premium Gas Price of $4.69 - from Hans Batra
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:24:06 -0400 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: Premium Gas Price of $4.69 Folks, FYI, on the way home from work, I just saw premium gas going for $4.69 at an Exxon. This morning it was $2.79 at the same gas station. I wish my investment accounts would do dat! Hans
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Premium Gas Price of $4.69 - from Hans Batra
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:24:55 -0400 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Premium Gas Price of $4.69 Sorry - I forgot to mention that I'm in Atlanta, GA. On 8/31/05, Hans Batra <hansbatra@yahoo.com> wrote: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:24:06 -0400 From: "Hans Batra" < hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: Premium Gas Price of $4.69 Folks, FYI, on the way home from work, I just saw premium gas going for $4.69 at an Exxon. This morning it was $2.79 at the same gas station. I wish my investment accounts would do dat! Hans ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#9. Re: [E36M3] H&R Race with Kosei K1s? - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:37:17 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] H&R Race with Kosei K1s? On Aug 31, 2005, at 3:08 PM, Jim Bassett wrote: >> I do, but I'm using AD race coilovers up front. >> > > Which are either a bit wider or have a bigger height adjuster, > compared to > my Bilsteins, IIRC. I can't remember what diameter springs they use, which is a big factor. >> Those 17x8.5 Koseis are ET38, BTW. >> > > Ahh. Which would make them 3mm more outboard compared to stock? Jay Hudson pointed out in private email that they are actually ET40, which is distinctly possible. I don't have my car handy so I can't check. - Mark ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Toyo Tires - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:03:07 -0400 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Toyo Tires Like Brian, I went from using the Toyo T1+, to two sets of the T1-S, to now the T1-R. I got these tires just before going to Europe for 2 weeks, so I can't report anything as far as how it grips in the wet / dry. Haven't even tried to push them yet. What I can report is that it does ride softer than the T1-S. Soaks up more of the bumps, but it has correspondingly slower turn-in response. My M3 is primarily a street car, so this is not a huge deal for me. The T1-S did have an amazing amount of grip in 'em, and I'll try to see how the new T1-R's compare and post again. Andrej '97 M3 Foley, Brian <bfoley@cmpd.org> wrote: > I have been running Toyos on my '97 M3/4 for about three years now; > started with the Proxes T1+ and now have a set of T1-S tires with less > than 10K miles. They are at least as good as my Michelin Pilots were and > probably better than the Bridgestones. The T1-R replaces the T1-S. Main > differences appear to be a slightly different silicone tread compound > and the design, which adds a circumfrential groove/channel across the > 'V' of the main tread on each inboard/outboard side of the tire near the > sidewall. This is supposed to aid wet weather performance. I am VERY > pleased with my tires which I ordered through NTB/Tire Kingdom for about > the same prices (130 per tire). They are very sticky, but have worn > extremely well. Wet weather performance with the T1-S has been great. > I'm sure the redesign will only make them better in the wet.