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#1. Re: [E36M3] Keep stock suspension's ride/handling quality - from Jason Knight
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 11:44:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Keep stock suspension's ride/handling quality My original shocks were dead at 50k miles when I replaced them with Bilsteins. I never felt my car new, but the Bilsteins are too stiff for my taste. If I had to do it again I'd go with oe Boge units. > I always think my car > came out of the factory with a perfect ride/handling > quality. So I would > like to replace my old stock set with a new stock > set. But I wonder if I > could get something a bit better quality over the > stock and yet retain all > its OEM feel. I looked and searched without any > success. All I've found > have been sports upgrade modification info. > I didn't replace my stock springs. I saw no indication that I'd need to. > Also, should I have my springs replaced along with > the shocks? Jason
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#2. RE: [E36M3] 2002 330i sport / 5-spd FS - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 11:55:08 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 2002 330i sport / 5-spd FS I'll vouch that Scott takes great care of his cars. I bought his cherry E36 M3/4. I'm sure his 330 is just as immaculate now that he is boppin' around in his new CTS-V caddy... -----Original Message----- From: Chester Wong [mailto:chester_p_wong@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 11:40 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2002 330i sport / 5-spd FS Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 11:31:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2002 330i sport / 5-spd FS ?? Wasn't this your replacement for the M5 and the car that you ended up with after deciding between the E36M3 or something else? Now you're selling it? --- Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> wrote: > Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 11:13:33 -0700 (PDT) > From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> > Subject: 2002 330i sport / 5-spd FS > > Very clean and well cared for 2002 330i with Sport Package, 5-speed. > 38K miles. > silver w/ gray interior > > Options: > - heated seats, fold down rear seats, Xenon's, Harmon Kardon stereo w/ CD, > sunroof, and sport package w/ 17" forged wheels > > additions: > - clearbra front covering (no rock chips, this stuff works) > - 35% window tint > > Very nice car. Brakes just replaced at dealer. All service up to date. > Warantee in effect through Nov. 2006 or to 50K miles, whichever comes first. > > Located in San Jose, CA. > > Asking: $26,500 > > Scott > 408-391-5381 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#3. Re: [E36M3] 2002 330i sport / 5-spd FS - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 11:57:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2002 330i sport / 5-spd FS uh - yeah. Guilty there.... The 330i, while a nice car, is not quite hot-roddy enough for me.... The last 5 years I owned a E36 M3, then E39 M5 and then a Z06. So I took advantage of the GM Employee Pricing and grabbed a CTS-V on a lease!! :-) I couldn't resist, it truly is a gem of a car, and it has the exact same motor I gave up in the Z06, but seats 4 and has fold down seats for my bike. I picked a great time to go back to a V8 too with gas prices doing what they are doing.... But oh well... http://para.noid.org/~c4racer/ctsv/new/index.html Here are some pics of the 330i btw: http://para.noid.org/~c4racer/330/index.html Scott Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> wrote: ?? Wasn't this your replacement for the M5 and the car that you ended up with after deciding between the E36M3 or something else? Now you're selling it? --- Scott McClung wrote: > Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 11:13:33 -0700 (PDT) > From: Scott McClung > Subject: 2002 330i sport / 5-spd FS > > Very clean and well cared for 2002 330i with Sport Package, 5-speed. > 38K miles. > silver w/ gray interior > > Options: > - heated seats, fold down rear seats, Xenon's, Harmon Kardon stereo w/ CD, > sunroof, and sport package w/ 17" forged wheels > > additions: > - clearbra front covering (no rock chips, this stuff works) > - 35% window tint > > Very nice car. Brakes just replaced at dealer. All service up to date. > Warantee in effect through Nov. 2006 or to 50K miles, whichever comes first. > > Located in San Jose, CA. > > Asking: $26,500 > > Scott > 408-391-5381
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Keep stock suspension's ride/handling quality - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:58:45 -0400 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Keep stock suspension's ride/handling quality Another recommendation for a set of Koni single adjustable shocks. Like you, I was in much the same boat. My M3 is 99.44% street car. It sees the occasional autocross, but for the most part, it's on the street. The stock shocks wore out a while ago. I was not interested in stiffening the car any. Koni single adjustables set to the soft end of the spectrum are right on the money. I've never regretted this switch. At their softest setting, they're slightly softer than the stock shocks. 1/2 to 3/4 turn from soft and you're right on the money. If you want to, they can be dialed in further. Myself, I haven't adjusted them at all since installing them. I kept the original springs, though I did swap out the rear trailing arm bushings, along with the Ground Control trailing arm bushing shims. Hope that helps, Andrej '97 M3 > like to replace my old stock set with a new stock set. But I wonder > if I could get something a bit better quality over the stock and yet > retain all its OEM feel. I looked and searched without any > success. All I've found have been sports upgrade modification > info. > Also, should I have my springs replaced along with the shocks? > Could someone shed some light for me on this subject? If this subject has > been discussed before, please help me individually. > Thank you! > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > *************************************************
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#5. Oil Level Pop Quiz - How much is *too* much? - from twisty M3
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Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 11:59:14 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Oil Level Pop Quiz - How much is *too* much? So, I have a Pop Quiz for all... Does anyone know how much oil is *too much* in the E36M3 crank case? I ask because when I got my car home on Monday night, the oil looked extremely low and was below the bottom line on the dip stick. I figured the techs must've just gotten sidetracked and forgot to dump in the rest of the oil, and was peeved but willing to live with it since I caught it ("new" motor was just dropped in). I topped it off with 2.5 quarts and have been checking every morning and night, just trying to watch for oil burning. It went down from the top dot to the top line after the first drive and didn't change after that... Odd. There's apparently a reason for that oddity. As I was replacing a swaybar end link last night, I decided to check the oil again. It was bugging me that the tube seemed like it had side to side slop I wasn't used to before, and as I went to pull the dip stick this time, the whole tube started to come with it! WTF!?! I promptly jammed it back down twice until it got a good set, then found a screw and bolted the sucker where the bracket lines up. Now my oil is WELL above full! It's not just at the top dot, but all the way up to the "2," which is the first digit in the part number (probably another full quart... I'd guess the actual level amount to be 8.5-9 quarts). I've always run with a quart over in the past (for a total of 8 quarts), but is almost two quarts over maybe too much? Whatta ya think? I can extract some if it's necessary. Jonathan L.
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#6. RE: H&R Race with Kosei K1s? - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:02:20 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: H&R Race with Kosei K1s? Carlos, No one seems to carry the Group G springs anymore (at least not in the right sizes). Hence H&R Race was my only option (off the shelf springs). They seem to be decently with full stiff sway bar settings. Will throw in some spring pads this weekend to raise the front end (and rid the ricer look). Ahmad 98 M3 I Stock -----Original Message----- From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com [mailto:Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 6:40 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] H&R Race with Kosei K1s? Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 08:42:21 -0400 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] H&R Race with Kosei K1s? >Jay Hudson pointed out in private email that they are actually ET40, >which is distinctly possible. I don't have my car handy so I can't >check. I was going to say the same thing, mine are ET40 or ET41. If I were going into I-stock I'd go with the Turner (IS/HS) suspension. I'd only use H&R race springs if they were part of some spec suspension or needed to drive the car on the street for some reason. Carlos 98 M3 on Pro kits E30 325is on H&R race springs (Spec E30 suspension)
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#7. RE: [E36M3] 2002 330i sport / 5-spd FS - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 12:05:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 2002 330i sport / 5-spd FS True - the car is basically flawless, I would not have bought it in the first place if it had not been so. There is not a problem area anywhere on the paint or interior that I could point to as a flaw. Clean as they come. It was a 1-owner lease return from BMW-NA from Denver - I am guessing it did not see winter duty. Scott Dave DeBuhr <debuhr@comcast.net> wrote: Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 11:55:08 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" Subject: RE: [E36M3] 2002 330i sport / 5-spd FS I'll vouch that Scott takes great care of his cars. I bought his cherry E36 M3/4. I'm sure his 330 is just as immaculate now that he is boppin' around in his new CTS-V caddy... -----Original Message----- From: Chester Wong [mailto:chester_p_wong@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 11:40 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2002 330i sport / 5-spd FS Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 11:31:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2002 330i sport / 5-spd FS ?? Wasn't this your replacement for the M5 and the car that you ended up with after deciding between the E36M3 or something else? Now you're selling it? --- Scott McClung wrote: > Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 11:13:33 -0700 (PDT) > From: Scott McClung > Subject: 2002 330i sport / 5-spd FS > > Very clean and well cared for 2002 330i with Sport Package, 5-speed. > 38K miles. > silver w/ gray interior > > Options: > - heated seats, fold down rear seats, Xenon's, Harmon Kardon stereo w/ CD, > sunroof, and sport package w/ 17" forged wheels > > additions: > - clearbra front covering (no rock chips, this stuff works) > - 35% window tint > > Very nice car. Brakes just replaced at dealer. All service up to date. > Warantee in effect through Nov. 2006 or to 50K miles, whichever comes first. > > Located in San Jose, CA. > > Asking: $26,500 > > Scott > 408-391-5381 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Steering Wheel Shake under high-speed brake... - from Funk@bvamotorsports.com
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 14:02:23 -0500 From: <Funk@bvamotorsports.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Steering Wheel Shake under high-speed brake... Suspension possibly... under high speed braking, there is a whole different load on your suspension and steering, and it could be enough to have you experience what you are feeling...? Was the shake immediate after install of the rotors, or did it re-develop over a few weeks worth of driving? Joe Funk BVA Motorsports 503-319-3499 ----- Original Message ----- From: "scott noltensmeier" <snoltens@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:59 AM Subject: [E36M3] Steering Wheel Shake under high-speed brake... > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:56:30 -0700 (PDT) > From: scott noltensmeier <snoltens@yahoo.com> > Subject: Steering Wheel Shake under high-speed brake... > > Steering Wheel shakes under high-speed brake... > > The 18" wheels are balanced -- smooth handling -- no problems. > Replaced brake pads, rotors, and applied the pad break-in procedure, > but... > - I still have a steering wheel shake issue at speeds above 60 mph. > - under 60 is ok... > Any suggestions? > > Thanks > Scott, E36M3, 96' 135K 2D. > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > >
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#9. Keep stock suspension's ride/handling quality - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 12:12:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Dorffer <e36m3digest@ameritech.net> Subject: Keep stock suspension's ride/handling quality > From: "david tow" <david_tow@hotmail.com> > > I always think my car > came out of the factory with a perfect ride/handling quality. So I would > like to replace my old stock set with a new stock set. Anyone looking for new rear OE BMW shocks, let me know, I have a new set that was installed and removed (buddy changed his mind after ordering and then installing and went ahead with Bilstein Sport instead) so I turned right around and removed them. Again, set is for all intents and purposes brand new. Shipping isn't an issue. Also, if you want to coordinate getting new OE front struts, let me know, I can easily assist to make this one stop shopping at a discount. Later, Rich
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#10. RE:Keep stock suspension's ride/handling quality - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:15:01 +0000 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: RE:Keep stock suspension's ride/handling quality Or just go with the no-brainer Bilsteins. No cut and gut, no adjustment. And they're German. :) I fretted for YEARS over which suspension to go with and since it turned into the commuter car, I kept the stock springs and put on the 'New' designed Bilsteins. Professionally installed, so I'm no help for installation tips. Feels like the hand of God is pushing down on the roof. Less body roll too. Okay, it did raise the rear ride height just a little, but it looks more even with the front now. Jonathan -95 M3