E36M3 #4461

Saturday, September 03, 2005 15:10:01

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#1. ABS Light on after wash - from M540
#2. RE: [E36M3] ABS Light on after wash - from Graeme Weston-Lewis
#3. Re: [E36M3] ABS Light on after wash - from Zack Steinkamp
#4. RE: [E36M3] Still waiting for GC coilover. - from Alan Leung
#5. Re: Re: [E36M3] Keep stock suspension's ride/handling quality - from cteague@cox.net
#6. Re: [E36M3] ABS Light on after wash - from Kent L. Shephard
#7. Smaller OBC display went dark - from David Ripton
#8. Help! Koni SA rear install question - from Jim Bassett
#9. Re: [E36M3] Smaller OBC display went dark - from Jim Bassett
#10. Re: [E36M3] Help! Koni SA rear install question - from Jim Bassett
#11. Re: [E36M3] Help! Koni SA rear install question - from Zack Steinkamp

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#1. ABS Light on after wash - from M540
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:00:40 -0400 From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> Subject: ABS Light on after wash Yesterday I drove our 1995 M3 and nothing was out of the ordinary. I hand washed the car when I got home, dried the car, and put it in the garage for the night. This morning my wife came in reporting that after she'd started the car the ABS light had stayed on after the system check. I started the car again and sure enough it stayed on. A quick trip around the block with a planned hard stop revealed that the ABS system was definitely out. Any ideas? Did I short something out perhaps with the wash? (I'd be surprised only because this was a really quick wash, nothing in the engine bay, etc.) Thank you, Kevin

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#2. RE: [E36M3] ABS Light on after wash - from Graeme Weston-Lewis
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 12:14:57 -0600 From: "Graeme Weston-Lewis" <gweston@lsil.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] ABS Light on after wash Hand Wash + ABS light = coincidence. A quick easy (and free) diagnostic is to pull the wheels off and make sure all the connectors are tight and there are no visible signs of damage to the wires. If everything looks tight, I'm afraid it might be time for a trip to your independent shop or even your favorite dealer. Good Luck, Graeme -----Original Message----- From: M540 [mailto:m540@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 12:10 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] ABS Light on after wash Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:00:40 -0400 From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> Subject: ABS Light on after wash Yesterday I drove our 1995 M3 and nothing was out of the ordinary. I hand washed the car when I got home, dried the car, and put it in the garage for the night. This morning my wife came in reporting that after she'd started the car the ABS light had stayed on after the system check. I started the car again and sure enough it stayed on. A quick trip around the block with a planned hard stop revealed that the ABS system was definitely out. Any ideas? Did I short something out perhaps with the wash? (I'd be surprised only because this was a really quick wash, nothing in the engine bay, etc.) Thank you, Kevin ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#3. Re: [E36M3] ABS Light on after wash - from Zack Steinkamp
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:20:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] ABS Light on after wash wild guess: Brake dust / krud in the wheel speed sensor system? There are toothed hubs at each corner with a magnetic pickup, much like a crank position sensor.  I'd guess if this got sufficiently krudded up, a sensor may no longer be able to deduce wheel speed... -zs ----- Original Message ---- From: M540 <m540@bellsouth.net> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Fri Sep 2 11:09:48 2005 Subject: [E36M3] ABS Light on after wash Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:00:40 -0400 From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> Subject: ABS Light on after wash Yesterday I drove our 1995 M3 and nothing was out of the ordinary.  I hand washed the car when I got home, dried the car, and put it in the garage for the night.  This morning my wife came in reporting that after she'd started the car the ABS light had stayed on after the system check.  I started the car again and sure enough it stayed on.  A quick trip around the block with a planned hard stop revealed that the ABS system was definitely out.  Any ideas?  Did I short something out perhaps with the wash?  (I'd be surprised only because this was a really quick wash, nothing in the engine bay, etc.) Thank you, Kevin ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld  http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport  http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance  http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering  http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing  http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc.  http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Still waiting for GC coilover. - from Alan Leung
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Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 13:21:52 -0500 From: "Alan Leung" <alanleung100@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Still waiting for GC coilover. Jay, Thanks a lot for asking. I ordered a set of GC race SA coilover for my 95 M3 through BW about 3 weeks ago but I still haven't seen it so I was getting concerned. I happened to have just talked with Dale before getting your question and he said through some arrangements I should receive it by end of next week. I appreciate your concern for your customers. Keep up the good work. Alan >-------------------- 9 -------------------- >Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 08:55:58 -0700 >From: Jim <rx3sp@lanset.com> >Subject: Still waiting for GC coilover. > >"Alan >95 M3 - still waiting for GC coilover. almost 3 wks now" > >I would appreciate it if you would tell the whole story. >Thank You. >-- >Jay Morris (from GC)

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#5. Re: Re: [E36M3] Keep stock suspension's ride/handling quality - from cteague@cox.net
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 15:11:14 -0400 From: <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: Re: [E36M3] Keep stock suspension's ride/handling quality I'll confirm what Rex said. The TCKline springs are standard 60mm ones, and the H&R 60mm springs are a drop in replacement. Chris > Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 08:10:22 -0700 > From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Keep stock suspension's ride/handling quality > > At 05:19 AM 9/2/2005 -0500, Alan Leung wrote: > >On paper both the TCK and GC stuffs are very similar but I was pulled back > >a little by TCK's proprietary springs as I wasn't sure about long term > >availability and interchangeability with other springs. Might have been > >total nonsense on my part, but I needed to make a decision somehow. > > You can use any 60mm spring on the front, I have used the TC Kline VVS and > H&R 60 mm springs on my TCKR CO setup. I have heard of people doing the > same for the rear, but I have not tried it. > Rex

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#6. Re: [E36M3] ABS Light on after wash - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 13:33:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] ABS Light on after wash Hi, Dust and krud wouldn't do it unless it was magnetic. But it would cause the ABS to malfunction only when brakes are applied. I had the experience to have the wrong ABS ring on a E30 M3 when I purchased ne front hubs. Interesting to say the least. This sounds like a sensor or brain problem. Kent > Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 11:20:21 -0700 (PDT) > From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] ABS Light on after wash > > wild guess: > Brake dust / krud in the wheel speed sensor system? > > There are toothed hubs at each corner with a magnetic pickup, much like a > crank position sensor.  I'd guess if this got sufficiently krudded up, a > sensor may no longer be able to deduce wheel speed... > > -zs > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: M540 <m540@bellsouth.net> > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Fri Sep 2 11:09:48 2005 > Subject: [E36M3] ABS Light on after wash > > Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:00:40 -0400 > From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> > Subject: ABS Light on after wash > > Yesterday I drove our 1995 M3 and nothing was out of the ordinary.  I > hand > washed the car when I got home, dried the car, and put it in the garage > for > the night.  This morning my wife came in reporting that after she'd > started > the car the ABS light had stayed on after the system check.  I started > the > car again and sure enough it stayed on.  A quick trip around the block > with > a planned hard stop revealed that the ABS system was definitely > out.  Any > ideas?  Did I short something out perhaps with the wash?  (I'd be > surprised > only because this was a really quick wash, nothing in the engine bay, > etc.) > > Thank you, > > Kevin > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld  http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport  http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance  http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering  http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing  http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc.  http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > >

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#7. Smaller OBC display went dark - from David Ripton
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Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 12:04:51 -0700 From: David Ripton <dripton@ripton.net> Subject: Smaller OBC display went dark I took out 1998 M3/4's on-board computer, to get at the climate control unit. Good news: I now have consistently working A/C. (Just in time for cooler weather...) Bad news: When I put the OBC back in, the smaller of the two displays (the clock) is now dark. (The big display is fine.) I double-checked both external connectors, and they seem fine. Haven't taken the OBC apart yet. I see http://www.unofficialbmw.com/repair_faqs/obc.html, but it seems to be a mix of E30 and E36 stuff, so I'm not sure how much of it is correct for this car. Anyone had just one of their two OBC displays go dark? What was the fix? New OBC, or just a light bulb? Thanks. -- David Ripton dripton@ripton.net

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#8. Help! Koni SA rear install question - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:44:45 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Help! Koni SA rear install question So, I'm attempting to replace the leaking non-ext-adj Koni SAs on the M3 with new ext-adj ones. I notice that the new ones are shorter: the tube is ~1/2 shorter and the ledge on the shaft where the bump stop rests is 2" shorter. I'm assuming that the new ones are then the same as the old ones, and this will significantly change the ride height (which I don't want)? Is it normal for the ext-adj ones to be different/shorter that the non-ext-adj ones, or did I get the wrong shocks? Thanks, Jim Bassett - second attempt at replacing the shocks, getting very frustrated

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Smaller OBC display went dark - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:53:00 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Smaller OBC display went dark At 12:09 PM 9/3/2005, David Ripton wrote: >Anyone had just one of their two OBC displays go dark? What was the >fix? New OBC, or just a light bulb? Should be just a light bulb. Pull the OBC out again and on the top you should see some removable bulb holders. Pull out the one behind the clock display, and replace the bulb (easily obtained at a regular auto parts store). Jim Bassett

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Help! Koni SA rear install question - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:00:26 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Help! Koni SA rear install question Let me correct my hastily-written mistakes: >So, I'm attempting to replace the leaking non-ext-adj Koni SAs on the M3 >with new ext-adj ones. > >I notice that the new ones are shorter: the tube is ~1/2 shorter and the >ledge on the shaft where the bump stop rests is 2" shorter. The tube is ~1/2" shorter. >I'm assuming that the new ones are then the same as the old ones, and this >will significantly change the ride height (which I don't want)? Not sure what I was trying to get across here :-) other than wondering if I can install these new shocks and NOT have any significant change in ride height & quality? >Is it normal for the ext-adj ones to be different/shorter that the >non-ext-adj ones, or did I get the wrong shocks? There's the bottom-line question; and according to the TC Kline web site, both versions are the correct part number, <shrug> I'm confused as to the height difference. >Thanks, >Jim Bassett - second attempt at replacing the shocks, getting very frustrated Grr. BTW, these are gong on the M3 with stock springs. The fronts are also Konis, the regular front inserts. Thanks, Jim Bassett

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#11. Re: [E36M3] Help! Koni SA rear install question - from Zack Steinkamp
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Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 13:03:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Help! Koni SA rear install question jim -- on the rear, the shock length will not have any bearing on ride height. A shorter shock should have the added benefit of acomodating a lower ride height without bottoming out as quickly. Let me know if you'd like another set of hands to help with the install.  Going to a BBQ soon, but will be back by 5pm or so. -zs ----- Original Message ---- From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Sat Sep 3 12:49:46 2005 Subject: [E36M3] Help! Koni SA rear install question Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:44:45 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Help! Koni SA rear install question So, I'm attempting to replace the leaking non-ext-adj Koni SAs on the M3 with new ext-adj ones. I notice that the new ones are shorter: the tube is ~1/2 shorter and the ledge on the shaft where the bump stop rests is 2" shorter. I'm assuming that the new ones are then the same as the old ones, and this will significantly change the ride height (which I don't want)? Is it normal for the ext-adj ones to be different/shorter that the non-ext-adj ones, or did I get the wrong shocks? Thanks, Jim Bassett - second attempt at replacing the shocks, getting very frustrated ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld  http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport  http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance  http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering  http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing  http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc.  http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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