E36M3 #4519

Friday, October 21, 2005 19:23:08

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#1. Free E36 M3 chassis !! - from Hunt Hodgetts
#2. Re: Nissan Armada track car tow vehicle??? - from bs
#3. Re: [E36M3] Re: Nissan Armada track car tow vehicle??? - from Mike VanAmburgh
#4. Re: [E36M3] Question: How much to build a cage - now race seats? - from Alan Leung
#5. Q's on replacing center support of CV type driveshaft - from Don Eilenberger
#6. RE: Check Control: Brake Light Failure - from Don Eilenberger
#7. Check Control: Brake Light Failure - from Mo Karamat
#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Nissan Armada track car tow vehicle??? - from Scott McClung
#9. Re: [E36M3] Cage Builder - from Roy Kao
#10. RE: Question: How much to build a cage? - from James Clay

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#1. Free E36 M3 chassis !! - from Hunt Hodgetts
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Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:26:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Hunt Hodgetts <hhodgetts@yahoo.com> Subject: Free E36 M3 chassis !! I have just finished stripping the parts of a 1996 M3 chassis. It must go this weekend and it is free to anyone who might want a chassis to build a track car. Must be able to pick up car this weekend. I'm in Atlanta. Call me with any additional questions. (404) 644-6020 Hunt Hodgetts

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#2. Re: Nissan Armada track car tow vehicle??? - from bs
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Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:27:53 -0400 From: "bs" <m3bs@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Nissan Armada track car tow vehicle??? I'll second what Scott said about the Armada. I recently bought an '05 LE 2WD. I've towed with it twice, and it's definitely more powerful, comfortable and stable than the '99 Expedition it replaces. The longer wheelbase makes a difference. With the Tech package camera, I can back the ball right up under the hitch, even in the dark. My biggest gripe so far is the liftover height in the rear. The folding 3rd seat (which I have no use for) takes up a lot of space, so the deck height is pretty high. Makes it awkward to toss those spare RA1s up in there, but it will hold them once you hoist them up there. I got about 14 mpg on both towing trips. You'll probably need a new ball mount - it took a 8" drop to get my trailer level. >

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Re: Nissan Armada track car tow vehicle??? - from Mike VanAmburgh
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Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 1:32:58 +0000 From: Mike VanAmburgh <mvanamburgh@charter.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Nissan Armada track car tow vehicle??? 14 mpg *with* towing?? My 98 Dodge is lucky to get 13 mpg just with normal driving. I need a Nissan Titan... Mike 95 M3 (KCR #32 BS) 97 M3/4 > From: "bs" <m3bs@comcast.net> > Date: 2005/10/20 Thu PM 11:32:47 WET > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: [E36M3] Re: Nissan Armada track car tow vehicle??? > > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:27:53 -0400 > From: "bs" <m3bs@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: Nissan Armada track car tow vehicle??? > > I'll second what Scott said about the Armada. I recently bought an '05 LE > 2WD. I've towed with it twice, and it's definitely more powerful, > comfortable and stable than the '99 Expedition it replaces. The longer > wheelbase makes a difference. With the Tech package camera, I can back the > ball right up under the hitch, even in the dark. My biggest gripe so far is > the liftover height in the rear. The folding 3rd seat (which I have no use > for) takes up a lot of space, so the deck height is pretty high. Makes it > awkward to toss those spare RA1s up in there, but it will hold them once you > hoist them up there. I got about 14 mpg on both towing trips. You'll > probably need a new ball mount - it took a 8" drop to get my trailer level. > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Question:  How much to build a cage - now race seats? - from Alan Leung
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Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:34:19 -0500 From: "Alan Leung" <alanleung100@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Question: How much to build a cage - now race seats? Thanks a lot for your responses, Neil, Jay & Carlos. I'd be shooting for a Prepared cage even though I have no immediate plan for racing. But I like to modify the car according to the Prepared rules so that (1) in case I want to race it in the future, I don't need to start over, (2) if I want to sell the car, it's going to be a lot more valuable to other racers rather than random mods. Thanks a lot for all your pointers. And in this case I'd reference other standards also. Anyone has any leads on a reputable cage builder here in the midwest? I know about Mark McMahan , but he's 12 hours away from MN. On another note, someone was selling race seats & harness a while back. Anything still for sale out there? Alan 95 M3 > Subject: Question: How much to build a cage? > > Alan Leung asks: >>> Can anyone tell me roughly how much it is to build a CR spec cage and >>> what >>> considerations should be taken when doing so? > > on 10/19/05 1:12 PM, Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com replies: >> I would consider which class you plan on running the car in first. That >> determines how extreme you can go with the cage. I'm assuming that when >> you >> say build a cage you mean a custom welded in cage which is the way to go >> in my >> opinion. > > And further to that, SCCA has recently published some changes to its cage > construction rules (Section 18.3 Touring Roll Cages) regarding welded > joint > construction and side protection. To the extent that CR rules follow SCCA > or > that Alan may also want to race in some other series like ITS then this > should be taken into account also. > > I'm no expert at all on this, but the point is that the cage fabricator > needs to be, so choose accordingly. > > Neil > Fort Wayne, IN > 96 M3 - Bastard child > 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic > 77 MGB - Original owner, need to sell > 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD!

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#5. Q's on replacing center support of CV type driveshaft - from Don Eilenberger
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Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:42:20 -0400 From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@yahoo.com> Subject: Q's on replacing center support of CV type driveshaft At 06:22 PM 10/20/2005, Dave wrote: >Greetings list. Been lurking for a few weeks, we just picked up a real >nice 95 M3 a few weeks ago and I am glad to have found this list as it >seems to have some pretty good technical discussions. > >A few weeks ago I replaced the drive-shaft flex disc (it had a lot of >cracks...but had not gotten real bad yet) but was unable to change the >center support bearing as I could not get one before the weekend. The >center support on the car now is the original one and the rubber on it >is quite hard (no cracks though) so I think its about due for >replacement so I am considering doing it this weekend. > >My questions: > >1) Any 'gotchas' to look out for when splitting the CV type shaft? >(other than normal) As long as normal includes marking all sections relative to each other before disassembly - none that I know of. No other answers.. for the other questions. >Thanks for any advice, >Dave Thomas >dave@sasdatalink.com Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1, PSJ, SquidBOOF#1 deilenberger@verizon.net NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.njsbmwr.org/ Moderator BMW E39 Enthusiast Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe39 ==================================================================== "Argue with an idiot and he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience" - Dilbert "The difference between intelligence and stupidity is - there is a limit to intelligence" - Anon ====================================================================

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#6. RE: Check Control:  Brake Light Failure - from Don Eilenberger
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Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:39:13 -0400 From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Check Control: Brake Light Failure At 06:22 PM 10/20/2005, you wrote: >I've been getting this message again, despite a new >brake light switch. Lights are all working. Should I >replace the bulbs next? Any other suggestions? > >Thanks, > >Shane <--- Annoyed in Charlotte If that is exactly the message you're getting - it isn't and wasn't the switch (which gives a "brake light CIRCUIT failure" (caps mine..) If you have other than euro bulbs (silver bases) in the lights it's worth replacing them. And of course don't forget the center brake light.. Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1, PSJ, SquidBOOF#1 deilenberger@verizon.net NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.njsbmwr.org/ Moderator BMW E39 Enthusiast Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe39 ==================================================================== "Argue with an idiot and he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience" - Dilbert "The difference between intelligence and stupidity is - there is a limit to intelligence" - Anon ====================================================================

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#7. Check Control:  Brake Light Failure - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:01:25 -0400 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: Check Control: Brake Light Failure Shane, Hello. Have you tried to clean out the sockets? Perhaps there is a little corrosion in there? Have fun! Mo -------------------- 3 -------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:54:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> Subject: Check Control: Brake Light Failure I've been getting this message again, despite a new brake light switch. Lights are all working. Should I replace the bulbs next? Any other suggestions? Thanks, Shane <--- Annoyed in Charlotte '96 M3 <---- The source of the problem '94 325i <----- Needs two fuel pumps after Road Atlanta, I have lousy luck

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Nissan Armada track car tow vehicle??? - from Scott McClung
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Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 11:10:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Nissan Armada track car tow vehicle??? I get 12mpg towing a ~5Klb load, at ~70mph with a few hills, but mine is 4x4 which probably kills at least 1mpg due to more weight, and maybe bigger tires (not sure there), but for sure taller ride ht. Titan should do a bit better than the Armada due to less weight and wind resistance. Agreed about the high load floor. Not ideal. Suburban was much better in that respect. But I am happy to trade off folding 3rd row seats vs. the removable type in the 'burb. I had to get a bigger drop too, I think a 5 or 6" drop for my wt. dist hitch. Steel is getting expensive now too, I think that sucker was more than $100. So the '05 got the rear view camera? Cool. Mine has the tech package, but doesn't have that - in '04 the camera was only in the Infiniti version. That would make trailer connection a snap. Scott Mike VanAmburgh <mvanamburgh@charter.net> wrote: Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 1:32:58 +0000 From: Mike VanAmburgh Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Nissan Armada track car tow vehicle??? 14 mpg *with* towing?? My 98 Dodge is lucky to get 13 mpg just with normal driving. I need a Nissan Titan... Mike 95 M3 (KCR #32 BS) 97 M3/4 > From: "bs" > Date: 2005/10/20 Thu PM 11:32:47 WET > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Re: Nissan Armada track car tow vehicle??? > > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:27:53 -0400 > From: "bs" > Subject: Re: Nissan Armada track car tow vehicle??? > > I'll second what Scott said about the Armada. I recently bought an '05 LE > 2WD. I've towed with it twice, and it's definitely more powerful, > comfortable and stable than the '99 Expedition it replaces. The longer > wheelbase makes a difference. With the Tech package camera, I can back the > ball right up under the hitch, even in the dark. My biggest gripe so far is > the liftover height in the rear. The folding 3rd seat (which I have no use > for) takes up a lot of space, so the deck height is pretty high. Makes it > awkward to toss those spare RA1s up in there, but it will hold them once you > hoist them up there. I got about 14 mpg on both towing trips. You'll > probably need a new ball mount - it took a 8" drop to get my trailer level. > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Cage Builder - from Roy Kao
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Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:57:55 -0400 From: Roy Kao <royckao@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Cage Builder I'm also planning to have a half cage built for my '99 M3 in the spring and after doing some research, I'm 95% certain I'm going with James from Bimmerworld. The reason being that when I spoke with them, they're the only outfit to ask me what my plans are for the car down the road. As it is just used for drivers' ed and lapping day events now, I didn't want the hassle of a fully stripped car with a full cage. But eventually, I'd like to consider IP class for the CCA CR; after I told them that, they said that they will build me the back half of an IP cage and when the time comes, they will just have to add the front part to make it a full cage and within IP CCA CR rules. To me, that's good customer foresight and I also appreciated the fact that Bimmerworld has built several cages for the E36 and has it down to a system to have it installed and welded to the car. That gives me comfort that it's a better proven design and installation for this particular car. The only hassle is I have to either ship or trailer the car down to VA from NJ and back but that's a small price to pay for the peace of mind of a good cage. While the car is down there, I'll probably get them to do some chassis and suspension reinforcement/strengthening, and replace some bushings with more solid units to get my money's worth of sending the car down.

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#10. RE:  Question:  How much to build a cage? - from James Clay
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Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:37:33 -0400 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: RE: Question: How much to build a cage? >And further to that, SCCA has recently published some changes to its cage construction rules (Section 18.3 Touring Roll Cages) regarding welded joint construction >and side protection. To the extent that CR rules follow SCCA or that Alan may also want to race in some other series like ITS then this should be taken into account >also. But Touring is not IMPROVED Touring - the Touring rules are only for the big heavy T1/T2 cars at this point (like Showroom stock). I can't emphasize enough how important it is to find a good chassis builder, not a cage builder. We are currently cutting very well constructed cages out of two customer's cars to replace with a proper, well designed lightweight road racing cage. All of a sudden that $1500 local cage builder wasn't such a good idea, especially after the $500 or so to cut it out and prepare for the new one. The cage is the permanent part of the car - invest wisely. James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com <http://www.bimmerworld.com/> http://www.bimmerworldracing.com <http://www.bimmerworldracing.com/> Engineered BMW Performance 540.639.9648

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