-------------------- 1 --------------------
#1. Re: [E36M3] Sway bar link bent - from Jamie Howton
Top
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:10:14 -0500 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sway bar link bent > Is it reasonable to expect that the frame could be > bent going off at 60 mph without bending control arms > or ripping strut mounts? You did say you hit something going 60MPH and while I don't know what you hit, that's pretty fast and could easily do some serious damage if you hit something hard enough to rip the swaybar mount off the strut body. I think you are right in expecting to see more suspension damage with a bent frame though. Do you know the entire vehicle history? > Is straightening the frame > possible or necessary given that I drove it 200 miles > home and felt no problems? It is possible with the right equipment, it's only necessary if it is bent outside allowable tolerances, however I don't know what those are. If you don't trust the shop you took it to, take it somewhere else. I have had very good luck finding reputable body shops by calling the local dealer and asking them who they use. If you are going to track the car again, I'd make sure it's right before hand. It's just my $.02, but you don't realy want a suspension failure at the track. -- Jamie Howton 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL
-------------------- 2 --------------------
#2. Re: [E36M3] Sway bar link bent - from Kent L. Shephard
Top
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:14:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sway bar link bent Hi, Unless they put it on a machine they won't be able to tell. 3mm a fraction less than 1/8". You cannot eyeball it. Also if they tried to install the link and assumed that it should line up exactly without a little bit of wrangling; wrong. I don't really believe that the frame is bent (but it ain't my car). On my E30 I ripped the link eyelet on my strut housing. I had the repair doen and reinforced the other. No alignment problems. YMMV. Kent > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:23:02 -0700 (PDT) > From: "j. helffrich" <girolamous@yahoo.com> > Subject: Sway bar link bent > > > > Hi All, > I took my 1997 M3/4 to the track last weekend at TWS > (College Station, TX) and went off one turn into the > infield. It didn't seem too bad at the time, but I > noticed a handling change (tire squeal) and when I > pulled into the pits I found my LF sway bar link had > bent and ripped out of the strut. I disconnected the > rear link and drove the rest of the weekend without > incident. > When I drove home, nothing felt bad, but I took the > car to a body shop to weld the link mounting hole back > in and they said that the frame was bent up 3mm on > that corner. I am not sure whether to believe them or > not, since they may just want work or be incompetent. > Is it reasonable to expect that the frame could be > bent going off at 60 mph without bending control arms > or ripping strut mounts? Is straightening the frame > possible or necessary given that I drove it 200 miles > home and felt no problems? I would like to replace > the strut, but it has a nice nearly new Koni yellow in > it and I've got other expenses right now. I welcome > suggestions. > > Regards, > Jerry > > > Jerry Helffrich > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
-------------------- 3 --------------------
#3. RE: [E36M3] Looking for an S52 motor, new or used, short or long block - from Mike VanAmburgh
Top
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:23:47 -0500 From: "Mike VanAmburgh" <mvanamburgh@charter.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Looking for an S52 motor, new or used, short or long block Have you checked with James at BimmerWorld? Mike -----Original Message----- From: Vern Anderson [mailto:vernon_anderson@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 2:32 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Looking for an S52 motor, new or used, short or long block Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:30:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Vern Anderson <vernon_anderson@yahoo.com> Subject: Looking for an S52 motor, new or used, short or long block Looking for a short or long block, or even an entire motor, for my 98 3.2 IP car. My bottom end finally expired after 17,000 track/race miles and way too much time above 5k rpms. It lived a good long life... Please contact me if you have any leads, either on or off list is fine. Thanks, Vern Anderson**********
-------------------- 4 --------------------
#4. Re: e46 rims on an e36? - from Adam Lazur
Top
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:12:20 -0500 From: Adam Lazur <adam@lazur.org> Subject: Re: e46 rims on an e36? Jamie Howton (jhowton@gmail.com) said: > > Has anybody tried running 17x8 rims with et47 offset on an e36 m3? Will > > they fit without spacers? > > I had my E46 330i Sport package wheels on my E36M3, I don't know what > offset they were, that car is long gone. They were 18" x 8" with a > 225 tire up front and 18" x 8-1/2" with a 255 in the rear; "M" V-Spoke > Style 72. Thanks for the info Jamie. I did the swap and they fit okay. The front was a little closer to the strut, but I didn't get any rubbing. In hindsight, it was a little crazy just for one day of autox in the m3 (on all season tires no less). But I had fun and got a last bit of seat time before things spin back up in March, so I'm happy :) -- Adam Lazur
-------------------- 5 --------------------
#5. euro headlight connector pins - from Thomas Philip
Top
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:51:06 -0500 From: Thomas Philip <tphilip@omtay.org> Subject: euro headlight connector pins I'm trying to install a set of euro headlights on my E36. I want to use a factory-style connection at the headlight end of my custom wiring harness. I have the twist-lock connector 61 13 1 392 222 and I'm trying to find proper pins that lock into it and fit the light. I originally thought it might be 61 13 0 005 197, but my local dealer happened to have one in hand and it's way too small. Is the proper part number 61 13 1 382 194? Thanks for the help. tom
-------------------- 6 --------------------
#6. Re: [E36M3] euro headlight connector pins - from Murray Roblin
Top
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:00:48 -0800 From: Murray Roblin <mdrlist@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] euro headlight connector pins Tom, Here are the pin numbers that I have. My recollection is that the first number, xx 202 is the appropriate one for the headlights. M3 connector pins **61 13 1 376 202 2.5mm 61 13 1 376 191 20pin connector - 2.5mm 61 13 0 005 197 61 13 1 362 144 15pin data connector 61 13 1 376 143 2.5mm tyco 929968-1 On 10/31/05, Thomas Philip <tphilip@omtay.org> wrote: > > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:51:06 -0500 > From: Thomas Philip <tphilip@omtay.org> > Subject: euro headlight connector pins > > I'm trying to install a set of euro headlights on my E36. I want to > use a factory-style connection at the headlight end of my custom > wiring harness. I have the twist-lock connector 61 13 1 392 222 and > I'm trying to find proper pins that lock into it and fit the light. > I originally thought it might be 61 13 0 005 197, but my local dealer > happened to have one in hand and it's way too small. Is the proper > part number 61 13 1 382 194? > > Thanks for the help. > > tom > > > > > Murray Roblin Palo Alto
-------------------- 7 --------------------
#7. speedo at Zero - from Brad Sunshine
Top
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:22:47 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Sunshine <bsuns@yahoo.com> Subject: speedo at Zero Folks, Driving around at lunch I noticed the speedo reading zero! The tach is fine, the odometer is not incrementing, including trip odo. Also the OBC distance, speed etc are not changing. I assume a sensor has gone, but I am not getting a check engine light (yet, it has been probably less than 5 miles since I first noticed it). I won't have time to delve into it for at least a day, since my 4 yr old Lion and 3 yr old Jojo the Clown require some attention this evening, any suggestions? 97 M3/4 manual. Thanks, Brad Sunshine Thanks, Brad __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
-------------------- 8 --------------------
#8. Re: [E36M3] speedo at Zero - from Raza Uddin
Top
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:47:38 -0800 From: Raza Uddin <raza.uddin@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speedo at Zero On 10/31/05, Brad Sunshine <bsuns@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I won't have time to delve into it for at least a day, > since my 4 yr old Lion and 3 yr old Jojo the Clown > require some attention this evening, any suggestions? > 97 M3/4 manual. Brad, I'd suggest running a instrument cluster test to see if it is the instrument cluster itself. With the ignition off, press and hold the odometer reset button on the cluster, while simultaneously turning the ignition to the 3rd position. The cluster's lights will turn on and it will perform a test of the analog gauges. The needles should move from their "zero" positions through their full range. An easy way to see if the speed sensor is bad is by double checking the speed with the OBC (if you have the full function). While driving the car, in the LIMIT mode, press "SET/RES' and your current MPH should be displayed.. I think the instrument cluster and the OBC get the speed signal from the differential-mounted sensor. Hope this helps! Drive Safely, Raza
-------------------- 9 --------------------
#9. Re: [E36M3] speedo at Zero - from Kent L. Shephard
Top
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:32:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speedo at Zero Hi, Actually this sensor doesn't throw a CEL that I know of. It's the speed sensor. I think it's in the diff but I could be and probably am wrong. It might be the sensor or it might be the wire coming from the sensor is broken. Had it happen on my E30 M3. But I'm 99.9% that this failure won't throw the CEL on an E36. Kent > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:22:47 -0800 (PST) > From: Brad Sunshine <bsuns@yahoo.com> > Subject: speedo at Zero > > Folks, > > Driving around at lunch I noticed the speedo reading > zero! The tach is fine, the odometer is not > incrementing, including trip odo. Also the OBC > distance, speed etc are not changing. I assume a > sensor has gone, but I am not getting a check engine > light (yet, it has been probably less than 5 miles > since I first noticed it). > > I won't have time to delve into it for at least a day, > since my 4 yr old Lion and 3 yr old Jojo the Clown > require some attention this evening, any suggestions? > 97 M3/4 manual. > > Thanks, > > Brad Sunshine > > Thanks, > > Brad > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
-------------------- 10 --------------------
#10. Re: [E36M3] speedo at Zero - from Brad Sunshine
Top
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 17:12:10 -0800 (PST) From: Brad Sunshine <bsuns@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speedo at Zero Thanks to all who responded. The darn thing actually worked on the way home! When I get a chance I will take a look at the diff sensor and wiring. Obviously if it quits working again the chance will be alot sooner! Brad Sunshine --- "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Actually this sensor doesn't throw a CEL that I know > of. > It's the speed sensor. I think it's in the diff but > I could be and > probably am wrong. > > It might be the sensor or it might be the wire > coming from the sensor is > broken. > > Had it happen on my E30 M3. But I'm 99.9% that this > failure won't throw > the CEL on an E36. > > Kent > > > > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:22:47 -0800 (PST) > > From: Brad Sunshine <bsuns@yahoo.com> > > Subject: speedo at Zero > > > > Folks, > > > > Driving around at lunch I noticed the speedo > reading > > zero! The tach is fine, the odometer is not > > incrementing, including trip odo. Also the OBC > > distance, speed etc are not changing. I assume a > > sensor has gone, but I am not getting a check > engine > > light (yet, it has been probably less than 5 miles > > since I first noticed it). > > > > I won't have time to delve into it for at least a > day, > > since my 4 yr old Lion and 3 yr old Jojo the > Clown > > require some attention this evening, any > suggestions? > > 97 M3/4 manual. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Brad Sunshine > > > > Thanks, > > > > Brad > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > ************************************************* > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Brad __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com