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#1. RE: Window Rubber Seal Lubricant - from Don Eilenberger
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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:57:33 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Window Rubber Seal Lubricant At 02:21 PM 11/11/2005, you wrote: >What's the preferred lubricant to use for the rubber strips surrounding >the windows? I'm sorry I'm sure this had been discussed before but I >can't seem to find it in the archive. Ok, I didn't go thru all 300 or so >threads found but... > >Anyway, I've never lubricanted these strips (it never occured to me). It >just recently dawned on me that I probably should do that since especially >the top part gets "brushed" by the windows every time the doors are closed >so... > >Thanks... >Phil >'99 Estoril M3/2 The "official BMW" lubricant was Gummiphlege - which was a silicone grease in a tube with a nice foam applicator on the end of it. Apparently the company that made this went belly up and BMW no longer supplies it. It does work WONDERS on the convertible in getting rid of all kinds of creaks and squeaks and awful noises a convertible is prone to. Since it isn't available from BMW, I'd recommend what I used before Gummiphlege. Dow-Corning Silicone grease. It's available for lots of uses under lots of names such as "High Vacuum Grease", "Stopcock Grease" (I'm not kidding - a "stopcock" is an all glass valve used in chem labs..) and probably a few other variations I haven't thought of. I have several large tubes of it that I expect to outlast me.. left over from my old research days at Bell-Labs where we did things with high-vacuum and stopcocks. It is a good general purpose rubber protectorant that won't destroy the rubber, and a good rubber lube (that won't destroy the rubber.) A little bit goes a long way, and it's generally non-messy but do NOT get it on any surface you might ever want to paint. It does cause awful fish-eyes in paint and is very difficult to remove (which makes it great for lubing rubber, but bad for getting on paint.) It is NOT a good general purpose lubricant - so don't substitute it for an real lubricants keeping metal to metal surfaces apart. Oh - used on your door gaskets (a LIGHT film) it will keep them from freezing shut in wet cold winter weather. Works a charm for that.. HTH, Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1, PSJ, SquidBOOF#1 deilenberger@verizon.net NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.njsbmwr.org/ Moderator BMW E39 Enthusiast Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe39 ==================================================================== "Argue with an idiot and he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience" - Dilbert "The difference between intelligence and stupidity is - there is a limit to intelligence" - Anon ====================================================================
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Window Rubber Seal Lubricant - from Jay G
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Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:41:44 -1000 From: Jay G <jguzman@hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Window Rubber Seal Lubricant when my bottle of gummipfledge will run out, i'll be using shin etsu grease from the honda dealer...it's supposed to be similar to gummipfledge and to be used on the rubber seals of the covertible top of the s2000... Jamie Howton wrote: >>What's the preferred lubricant to use for the rubber strips surrounding the windows?
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#3. FS: H&R Springs - from Rob Verenna
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Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:42:33 -0600 From: Rob Verenna <rob@willraceforbeer.com> Subject: FS: H&R Springs One set of H&R 29910VA springs. Front springs ONLY, no rears. These are the "Sport Springs" for the 3.2L E36 M3 cars (not cabrio) and lower the car approx. 1.2", according to their web site. Kit (Front and rear) MSRP is $350, Turner has the kit for $245. $50/BO + actual shipping. - rob
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#4. Re: Primary Success - from Steve Klein
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Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:39:05 -0600 From: Steve Klein <s.klein@steveklein.cc> Subject: Re: Primary Success Hi, Brian- I did replace the shorter guide rail that sits on the driver side of the chain. It was noticeably worn, with two grooves from the chain about as deep as a thin sheet of paper. The other guide (tensioner side) didn't have a noticeable groove. I've been hammering the throttle like a drunken clam since last week and the difference is remarkable with respect to the smoothness and (relative) quiet of the engine (JC CAI sings beautiful WOT harmony). I replaced the lifters about a year and a half ago, and since I still have the chatter, I've formulated my Bearing Ledge Theory™ from process of elimination induced thinking. To whit: The lifters are steel with a circumfrential groove which channels pressurized oil to the ball-check valve which keeps the oil in the lifter. The lifters ride in the bearing ledges (the cast pieces which also hold the camshafts) which are aluminum. There is an orifice in the center of each bore through which pressurized oil reaches the lifters, providing both lubrication and the hydraulic pressure needed to pump up the lifter and take up slack between the valve and camshaft. Being aluminum, I suspect that as fast as the pistons in the lifters wear out, the aluminum bores wear out as well. While not much (the new lifters had no appreciable slop when inserted, but did slide quite freely with residual oil), I believe that even slight tolerance increases may account for an effective drop in the oil pressure reaching the ball-check valve, preventing the lifters from pumping up completely. Thus the chatter. This is all speculative, and the only way I can think of to test this theory is to actually replace the bearing ledges, which I'm finally getting around to on my list of Things That Want Money From Me. As much as I'd love to have gone in and done it all at once, I'm the type that would rather tinker and figure out exactly what is doing what and be able to attribute it as such. So having done things singularly or in small groups has helped to back my evaluations. Again, I'll state that my limited humachine testing (pulling, measuring, comparing) showed at most a 1mm elongation to the doubled length of the chain, and I'd have thought the tensioner would have dealt with that little elongation with no problem, but I stand happily corrected. I would like to better understand exactly WHY something so small made such a difference, but at this point, I'm just enjoying the results. Steve On Nov 11, 2005, at 6:07 PM, Brian Ruiz wrote: > Steve, > > I'm so thankful to hear your success, I really need to do this to > my car. Did you replace the chain guides too, or were they in > pretty good shape? My theory on the lifter noise is actually that > the hydraulic cam followers are going bad. On a cold start, one of > mine is extremely noisy, I won't drive away without the noise going > away. It appears these are relatively easy to replace, you just > need to remove the cams and set the new followers in place. I > haven't read up on it thoroughly, but from the looks of it, it > doesn't look too terrible. > > Thanks for the info. > Brian > build 8/95
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Window Rubber Seal Lubricant - from Philip
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Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:41:08 -0800 From: "Philip" <estorilphil@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Window Rubber Seal Lubricant Thanks to everyone that responded. This list is awesome! While I'm more confused than ever, I did receive numerous leads that I'll probably just pick one & use. Or I may buy a couple of them and try 'em out that way. :-) Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Eilenberger" <deilenberger@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 7:01 PM Subject: [E36M3] RE: Window Rubber Seal Lubricant > Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:57:33 -0500 > From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@yahoo.com> > Subject: RE: Window Rubber Seal Lubricant > > At 02:21 PM 11/11/2005, you wrote: > >>What's the preferred lubricant to use for the rubber strips surrounding >>the windows? I'm sorry I'm sure this had been discussed before but I >>can't seem to find it in the archive. Ok, I didn't go thru all 300 or so >>threads found but... >> >>Anyway, I've never lubricanted these strips (it never occured to me). It >>just recently dawned on me that I probably should do that since especially >>the top part gets "brushed" by the windows every time the doors are closed >>so... >> >>Thanks... >>Phil >>'99 Estoril M3/2 > > The "official BMW" lubricant was Gummiphlege - which was a > silicone grease in a tube with a nice foam applicator on the > end of it. > > Apparently the company that made this went belly up and BMW > no longer supplies it. It does work WONDERS on the convertible > in getting rid of all kinds of creaks and squeaks and awful > noises a convertible is prone to. > > Since it isn't available from BMW, I'd recommend what I used > before Gummiphlege. Dow-Corning Silicone grease. It's available > for lots of uses under lots of names such as "High Vacuum Grease", > "Stopcock Grease" (I'm not kidding - a "stopcock" is an all glass > valve used in chem labs..) and probably a few other variations > I haven't thought of. > > I have several large tubes of it that I expect to outlast me.. > left over from my old research days at Bell-Labs where we did > things with high-vacuum and stopcocks. > > It is a good general purpose rubber protectorant that won't > destroy the rubber, and a good rubber lube (that won't destroy > the rubber.) A little bit goes a long way, and it's generally > non-messy but do NOT get it on any surface you might ever want > to paint. It does cause awful fish-eyes in paint and is very > difficult to remove (which makes it great for lubing rubber, > but bad for getting on paint.) > > It is NOT a good general purpose lubricant - so don't substitute > it for an real lubricants keeping metal to metal surfaces apart. > > Oh - used on your door gaskets (a LIGHT film) it will keep them > from freezing shut in wet cold winter weather. Works a charm for > that.. > > HTH, > > Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1, PSJ, SquidBOOF#1 > deilenberger@verizon.net > NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.njsbmwr.org/ > Moderator BMW E39 Enthusiast Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe39
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#6. RX8? - from Scott McClung
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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:41:45 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: RX8? Has anyone here considered moving to (or has moved to) an RX8 as a dual porpose street / track car? Seems to be a very equivalent if not better handling car to the E36 M3, considering same HP, slightly less weight (3000lbs), similar tires sizes, and evidence by the fact that 8 out of the top 9 finishers in Topeka in BS were driving them. Considering the E36 is now a 15 year old platform and is getting to an age where maint and repairs becomes a significant factor, and the RX8 is a brand new model with full warrantee it seems like it would be an attractive option. Yes, I realize it is butt-ugly :-) But wondering if anyone has considering going that route or has gone that route from a previous E36 M3 DE type of track toy + street sports car. Scott
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#7. Re: [E36M3] RX8? - from Gary
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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 11:08:01 -0600 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RX8? I like Mazda stuff just, I have a 92 Miata turbo, but not the rotary stuff....They tend to NOT last....How many 15 year old RX7 turbo's do you see running around...Not many...Even the older NON turbo Rx7's..They just don't last. I have friends who race them, they rebuild them every season. They do not like tracks and heat. They all have horrible heating problems with their race cars running race radiators and oil coolers...The exhaust gets so hot it will literally melt the paint on the floor board of the race car...Even street cars have heating problems. And they did have an oil usage problem with the Rx8 I have no clue if they fixed it or not. More to a car than comparing them on paper..Parts are very easy to get for the E36 chassis, and cheaper than the RX8's parts will be...For the money you would waste on an Rx8 you could buy some very nice aftermarket parts for your E36M3 and have a great street/track car. When I bought my M3 I put it on a five year track plan...At the end of five years it would be my track car. And it pretty much is...i still keep it streetable since I like to drive it on the street too every now and then. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott McClung" <smlists@pacbell.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:51 AM Subject: [E36M3] RX8? > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:41:45 -0800 (PST) > From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> > Subject: RX8? > > Has anyone here considered moving to (or has moved to) an RX8 as a dual > porpose street / track car? Seems to be a very equivalent if not better > handling car to the E36 M3, considering same HP, slightly less weight > (3000lbs), similar tires sizes, and evidence by the fact that 8 out of the > top 9 finishers in Topeka in BS were driving them. Considering the E36 is > now a 15 year old platform and is getting to an age where maint and > repairs becomes a significant factor, and the RX8 is a brand new model > with full warrantee it seems like it would be an attractive option. Yes, > I realize it is butt-ugly :-) But wondering if anyone has considering > going that route or has gone that route from a previous E36 M3 DE type of > track toy + street sports car. > > Scott > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#8. Re: [E36M3] RX8? - from m.feldpusch@comcast.net
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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:13:01 +0000 From: m.feldpusch@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] RX8? >>Considering the E36 is now a 15 year old platform and is >>getting to an age where maint and repairs becomes a significant factor I disagree with this statement. E36 repairs are still on the cheap side, considering the amount of E36s that were produced. I think replacement parts for a new RX8 would be more costly than what you quote a "15 year old platform", even tho the first E36 M3 is only 10 years old. If anyone considered moving to an RX8, then they would not be on this list :) Michael E36 fan forever! -------------- Original message -------------- > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:41:45 -0800 (PST) > From: Scott McClung > Subject: RX8? > > Has anyone here considered moving to (or has moved to) an RX8 as a dual porpose > street / track car? Seems to be a very equivalent if not better handling car to > the E36 M3, considering same HP, slightly less weight (3000lbs), similar tires > sizes, and evidence by the fact that 8 out of the top 9 finishers in Topeka in > BS were driving them. Considering the E36 is now a 15 year old platform and is > getting to an age where maint and repairs becomes a significant factor, and the > RX8 is a brand new model with full warrantee it seems like it would be an > attractive option. Yes, I realize it is butt-ugly :-) But wondering if anyone > has considering going that route or has gone that route from a previous E36 M3 > DE type of track toy + street sports car. > > Scott > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#9. Re: [E36M3] RX8? - from Chester Wong
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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 09:34:53 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RX8? Wasn't it you who did something like: E36M3 E39M5 E36M3 Corvette E36M3 ?? So here we go again? Well, if you do get a RX-8, we'll see ya back in a few months ;) Chester --- Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> wrote: > Has anyone here considered moving to (or has moved to) an RX8 as a dual > porpose street / track car? Seems to be a very equivalent if not better > handling car to the E36 M3, considering same HP, slightly less weight > (3000lbs), similar tires sizes, and evidence by the fact that 8 out of the > top 9 finishers in Topeka in BS were driving them. Considering the E36 is > now a 15 year old platform and is getting to an age where maint and repairs > becomes a significant factor, and the RX8 is a brand new model with full > warrantee it seems like it would be an attractive option. Yes, I realize it > is butt-ugly :-) But wondering if anyone has considering going that route or > has gone that route from a previous E36 M3 DE type of track toy + street > sports car.
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#10. wheel fitment - from mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 12:47:27 -0500 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: wheel fitment I'm looking to upgrade my autox wheel / tire package. I know this has been discussed before, but what offset is required to fit a 8.5" wide wheel front AND back without the need for spacers?? My rear fenders are already rolled. I have 17x8 SSR Integrals (et=41mm) that allow me to rotate them after each event. For 8.5" wide the front will be tight next to the strut while the back will be close to the fender. Is there an offset that can handle both without spacers?? TIA, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005 Philly Region BSP Champion