E36M3 #4540

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:32:20

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#1. RE: Window Rubber Seal Lubricant - from Burgess, Kim L
#2. RE: Window Rubber Seal Lubricant wlink - from Burgess, Kim L
#3. Track cars - from Jonathan Evans
#4. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 RX8? - from Roy Kao
#5. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 RX8? - from Roy Kao
#6. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 RX8? - from Roy Kao
#7. Re: [E36M3] Track cars - from Hans Batra
#8. Re: [E36M3] Track cars - from Walter J
#9. Possible upcoming sale - from jsp98m3
#10. Misfire - from Stan Shaw
#11. ABS/ASC Light - from Stan Shaw

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#1. RE: Window Rubber Seal Lubricant - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 01:33:59 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Window Rubber Seal Lubricant While "Gummi Pflege" is infact 'NLA' at the local 'toy' store, from what I can tell "Gummi-Pflege", might be more of a generic term for this 'lubricant'. "Gummi-Pflege" is avaliable from several of the 'on-line' sources, I found some at Pelican Parts. KLB -------------------- 1 -------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:57:33 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Window Rubber Seal Lubricant At 02:21 PM 11/11/2005, you wrote: >What's the preferred lubricant to use for the rubber strips surrounding >the windows? I'm sorry I'm sure this had been discussed before but I >can't seem to find it in the archive. Ok, I didn't go thru all 300 or >so threads found but... > >Anyway, I've never lubricanted these strips (it never occured to me). >It just recently dawned on me that I probably should do that since >especially the top part gets "brushed" by the windows every time the >doors are closed so... > >Thanks... >Phil >'99 Estoril M3/2 The "official BMW" lubricant was Gummiphlege - which was a silicone grease in a tube with a nice foam applicator on the end of it. Apparently the company that made this went belly up and BMW no longer supplies it. It does work WONDERS on the convertible in getting rid of all kinds of creaks and squeaks and awful noises a convertible is prone to. Since it isn't available from BMW, I'd recommend what I used before Gummiphlege. Dow-Corning Silicone grease. It's available for lots of uses under lots of names such as "High Vacuum Grease", "Stopcock Grease" (I'm not kidding - a "stopcock" is an all glass valve used in chem labs..) and probably a few other variations I haven't thought of. I have several large tubes of it that I expect to outlast me.. left over from my old research days at Bell-Labs where we did things with high-vacuum and stopcocks. It is a good general purpose rubber protectorant that won't destroy the rubber, and a good rubber lube (that won't destroy the rubber.) A little bit goes a long way, and it's generally non-messy but do NOT get it on any surface you might ever want to paint. It does cause awful fish-eyes in paint and is very difficult to remove (which makes it great for lubing rubber, but bad for getting on paint.) It is NOT a good general purpose lubricant - so don't substitute it for an real lubricants keeping metal to metal surfaces apart. Oh - used on your door gaskets (a LIGHT film) it will keep them from freezing shut in wet cold winter weather. Works a charm for that.. HTH, Don Eilenberger

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#2. RE: Window Rubber Seal Lubricant wlink - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 01:35:16 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Window Rubber Seal Lubricant wlink While "Gummi Pflege" is infact 'NLA' at the local 'toy' store, from what I can tell "Gummi-Pflege", might be more of a generic term for this 'lubricant'. "Gummi-Pflege" is avaliable from several of the 'on-line' sources, I found some at Pelican Parts. http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/images/drivewerks/einszett/914805.jp g KLB

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#3. Track cars - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:30:22 -0500 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: Track cars It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. I can't remember who said that, but have a picture of me passing a yellow Lamborghini countach up at VIR. Yes, I grew up in the 80's and it was a dream come true to pass it in my disposable Miata. Spend 4k on a 91-94 Miata, put 4k into it and join the bumble bee racing crowd. Or just buy a decent spec prepared Miata for $10k and change the spring weights. Pros: Lightweight, rear wheel drive, linear power band (up to 7k rpm), and DIRT CHEAP TO FIX (if you ever have to). $500 for a used engine. Plenty of competition at your local track. Disposable. Lots of suspension options. Makes you find the fast line on the track. Cons: Not for tall people, no metal roof, 100 horse pressure engine gets a bit frustrating. Lots of competition at your local track. I'm slowly going down this road. And it's great having a convertible for days like today, especially since the M3 sunroof quit working. Also, if you get bored you can spend $2k on a supercharger or turbo and tinker with that. I think I've written this same email half a dozen times on this list in the past 6 or so years. -Jonathan 95 m3 92 miata

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#4. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 RX8? - from Roy Kao
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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 10:04:27 -0500 From: Roy Kao <royckao@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 RX8? I can appreciate that weight being a consideration, that's one of the reasons why I cancelled my order for the E46 M3 when it arrived and kept the E36 to make it into a dedicated track car. I also agree that the STI/Evo AWD saloons are incredible cars on and off the track, but I have one major issue with them: they're TOO easy to drive quickly, even on the track. I recently had a student at a CCA driving school who showed up with a mildly tuned Evo, and that was a MONSTER already and there were many more things he could do to that car! The car had a very heavy wastegate spring which meant that each time the throttle closed, the car pitched horribly...and it stayed on the track when initiating turns like the pitch never happened. Plus, the driver could early apex and just get on the throttle and drive the car out of a poorly executed turns with good exit speed...to me, that's just no fun! DISCLAIMER: This is a purely personal preference and YMMV. -- Roy - '99 M3 Estoril Blue On 11/14/05, E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> wrote: > > -------------------- 11 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:29:34 -0800 (PST) > From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] RX8? > > 3255lbs for the 350Z track edition. And $34K sticker and not sure how much discount is available - invoice is $31K. For that price, in fact cheaper - you can get an STI or Evo. I was putting the RX8 into the next price point lower category. Clearly at the $30K range the STI or Evo is going to walk all over an RX8 or a 350Z on the track. But that is more than I really wanted to spend on a pure "toy". $15-20K would be better, but I was willing to consider stretching it to $25K to pick up a new car w/ 4yr warrantee because that could save some major cash. > > Jon Phillips <jphillips@futurenetworkusa.com> wrote:Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 14:59:37 -0800 > From: Jon Phillips > Subject: Re: [E36M3] RX8? > > Anyone care to comment on the 350Z as a track car? I have yet to drive a > 350Z, but have driven a G35 at speed, and found it plowed HORRENDOUSLY > in slow corners. Understeer reared its ugly head much, much sooner than > expected. How similar are the 350z and G35 chassis dynamics? > > Cayman S: Now THIS is car that looks incredible on paper. >

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#5. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 RX8? - from Roy Kao
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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 10:16:20 -0500 From: Roy Kao <royckao@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 RX8? One of the best E30 motor swaps I've seen involves a 325is shell and the Euro spec 3.2 litre M3 Evo motor, complete with a modifield 6-speed that fit the E30...plus it was stripped as a track car so it was an incredible combination on the track. -- Roy - '99 M3 Estoril Blue On 11/15/05, E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> wrote: > > -------------------- 4 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:13:14 -0800 > From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> > Subject: Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] RX8? > > If I were doing the motor swap thing, I'd be more inclined to do a S50 motor > in an E30 chassis - lighter, simpler, cheaper, etc. etc. That would fly. > > Scott >

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#6. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 RX8? - from Roy Kao
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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 10:22:00 -0500 From: Roy Kao <royckao@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 RX8? I had a '99 M Coupe along with the M3 for about 2 years...and I actually have a tinge of regret of selling the M Coupe and not the M3! The car was such a blast not only because of its 'entertainment' value with the older rear suspension, but I found the car more adjustable using the throttle than the M3. But by nature, I prefer a car that is neutral or biased towards slight oversteer under power so the M Coupe was great for that. And I never had the chance to try out the Nurburgring rear spoiler found on E36 Z3/M Coupes that have competed at the classic 24 hours event, I bet it would've done wonders for its stability at the limit. -- Roy - '99 M3 Estoril Blue > > -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:53:27 -0800 > From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> > Subject: Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] RX8? > > On Nov 14, 2005, at 11:41 PM, Scott M wrote: > > Can't be that bad, I've seen plenty of E30 M3's that were as fast > > or faster > > than E36 M3's even tho down 50+ hp and more torque. > > They weigh 300 lbs less. Ask me how I know. > > The M-Coupe is a great example of a car that weighs in at E36-levels > but has the E30 rear suspension. It's, umm, not super-well regarded > at the limit. > > - Mark > E36 325is JP #117 > ----- > mark@pdc-racing.net > > Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: > http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Track cars - from Hans Batra
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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 10:38:23 -0500 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Track cars "It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow" I completely agree. I have a 1983 Porsche 911 SC with 175 stock horsepower. Car has 200K miles on it, with the engine nor tranmission never having been apart. It is incredibly fun to drive at speeds of 45 to 90 mph. It's light (approx. 2,750 lbs) yet still built like a tank and is nicely geared. The other quote I like is "It IS possible to drive a fast car slowly". ;-) regards, Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: [E36M3] Track cars > Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:30:22 -0500 > From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> > Subject: Track cars > > It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. I can't remember who said that, but have a picture of me passing a yellow Lamborghini countach up at VIR. Yes, I grew up in the 80's and it was a dream come true to pass it in my disposable Miata. > > Spend 4k on a 91-94 Miata, put 4k into it and join the bumble bee racing crowd. Or just buy a decent spec prepared Miata for $10k and change the spring weights. > > Pros: Lightweight, rear wheel drive, linear power band (up to 7k rpm), and DIRT CHEAP TO FIX (if you ever have to). $500 for a used engine. Plenty of competition at your local track. Disposable. Lots of suspension options. Makes you find the fast line on the track. > > Cons: Not for tall people, no metal roof, 100 horse pressure engine gets a bit frustrating. Lots of competition at your local track. > > I'm slowly going down this road. And it's great having a convertible for days like today, especially since the M3 sunroof quit working. > > Also, if you get bored you can spend $2k on a supercharger or turbo and tinker with that. > > I think I've written this same email half a dozen times on this list in the past 6 or so years. > > -Jonathan > 95 m3 > 92 miata > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Track cars - from Walter J
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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 10:48:51 -0500 From: Walter J <m3gtr@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Track cars Jonathan Evans wrote: >Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:30:22 -0500 >From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> >Subject: Track cars > >It's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. I can't remember who said that, but have a picture of me passing a yellow Lamborghini countach up at VIR. Yes, I grew up in the 80's and it was a dream come true to pass it in my disposable Miata. > > > In theory, I agree... but... man, once you have a fast car its damn hard to give it up. I wish I could - like you said, there is almost nothing cheaper or more bulletproof. I bought an E30 325 with the idea of turning it into a spec E30 and/or a track car but my mostly stock M3 is reliable and so much faster - the closing speed of the M on a full race Miata or E30 (non M3) at Summit or WGI is staggering. I can't bring myself to give it up. Speed is like heroin only more expensive and addictive. I made the E30 my daily driver/beater - the M3 is either for sale/trade for an I/JP E36 or transformed by spring. I am soooo weak. -- Walter

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#9. Possible upcoming sale - from jsp98m3
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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 08:08:07 -0800 From: "jsp98m3" <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Possible upcoming sale As many of you know, we have been growing our business phenomenally in the past several years, supplying wholesale lighting to retailers and manufacturers around the world. It seems I spend more time in an airline seat than in my office chair. We have also reorganized twice in the past six months! And it may happen again in another year. I'm beginning to get a very clear picture of all those re-org's that I thought were such total nonsense when I was in corporate life. Some still were, some were not, after all. On the 28th of October I was hit from behind at a dead stop by a drunk traveling at over 65mph. Luckily for me, I was in my POS car, the 2005 M3, not the much more loveable '98 M3. Luckily because I don't think the '98 would have let 5 of us walk away unscathed. The '05 is a remarkable chassis in life and in death. At least I hope its death. The insurance company is still trying to decide whether to fix it or not. BMW is saying total it, Allstate is trying to make up its mind. If BMW says it won't be the same car, I might have to take Allstate to court to make them see the light. I don't want to drive even a perfect reconstruction if the crumple zones won't be the same. But this has also brought to light that Katerina the '98 doesn't ever get driven. And that's just not a good thing. So depending on the timing of and the outcome of the insurance decisions, it is likely that Katerina will go up for sale. Those interested with a bit over $20K in free cash can start contacting me if you wish. I'm never home much, adding South America and Europe to my already too-full Asian travel plans. So the car is going to get driven less than zero until I can get a marketing person in here to help out. I'd rather sell her than see her just sit. -- Jim Owner Apexcone.com (760) 798-1863 <mailto:sales@apexcone.com> sales@apexcone.com http://www.apexcone.com

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#10. Misfire - from Stan Shaw
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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:22:30 -0500 From: "Stan Shaw" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: Misfire Thanks to all listers who responded about my misfire question. I changed the spark plugs, and haven't seen the problem since. The plugs did look well worn down. Regards, Stan Shaw Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 Excell.Net Owner/Operator http://www.Excell.Net/ 928 Owners Club President http://www.928OC.org/ 928Racing.net Team Member http://www.928Racing.net/ "Liberty once lost is lost forever." - John Adams

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#11. ABS/ASC Light - from Stan Shaw
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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:26:07 -0500 From: "Stan Shaw" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: ABS/ASC Light My ABS/ASC light is on steady. This first occurred when I replaced the strut bearings and snagged the ABS wire on the driver's front. I replaced that wire, and the problem went away but just for a while. Shortly afterwards I was on a long trip, and both lights came back on. I visually checked the wires, and all looks ok. Is there a way to determine which wire or other component is bad by scanning, etc.? Regards, Stan Shaw Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 Excell.Net Owner/Operator http://www.Excell.Net/ 928 Owners Club President http://www.928OC.org/ 928Racing.net Team Member http://www.928Racing.net/ "Liberty once lost is lost forever." - John Adams

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