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#1. Re: [E36M3] How long will you keep your E36 M3? - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:00:50 -0600 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How long will you keep your E36 M3? I run into Jean Louis Picouet a couple of times per year at the track, he has an 80 Euro Gts2 928 and a GT street car. I am a reformed 928 owner too, I had 3 of them... -- Jamie Howton 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL
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#2. Re: Clutch R&R - Summary and Results - from Craig Perrin
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 22:42:56 -0500 From: Craig Perrin <cperrin@tampabay.rr.com> Subject: Re: Clutch R&R - Summary and Results On Nov 18, 2005, at 7:11 PM, Neil Maller wrote: > The test drive showed pedal effort to be lighter than stock M3, > about like a > normal E36 325i. The pedal gets slightly heavier as time goes by -- I've had your set- up for two years -- but it's still lighter than stock, if I remember correctly. > > To my surprise there was zero transmission rattle at idle. However the > Eurosport cam kit on my car raises the idle speed by around 100 > rpm, which > definitely would help. With the outside temperature at 30 degrees > today I > wasn't able to try it with the A/C on. I get no rattle at idle in cold weather, lots of rattle in hot weather and/or when the AC is on. Increased idle speed doesn't seem to help. I've learned to think of the rattle as an audible status symbol. Overall, your results confirm my experience. Other than suspension, the UUC combo is probably the most useful, most fun upgrade I've added. I'm guessing you learned to double-clutch in your 77 MGB, as I did in my 57 MGA coupe. An absolute necessity in that little beast. Craig 95 M3
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#3. Re: [E36M3] How long will you keep your E36M3? - from Boen168@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:07:19 EST From: Boen168@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] How long will you keep your E36M3? Bought my '95 Cosmos Schwatz/black (10/95 production) new in Jan. '06 with 31 miles. Current mileage reads 222,383 miles at this writing. Original paint (except hood and front valance...repainted due to stone chips...due for another), original interior (driver's seat shows patina wear but no tear, rest in 8 out of 10), Dinan Stage something?? installed when car is 10K (chip, throttle body, air box, exhaust...Dinan Mass AF installed at approx. 60K when it became available). Car have never ever let me down! How long will I keep it?? The word is FOREVER!! Regards, DavidB. BMW CCA Los Angeles '95 M3 Cosmos Schwatz '88 M3 Alpinweiss '88 M3 Cinnabar '90 325i Delphin '85 323i (Euro) Bronzit...sold car in '95, just bought it back from same owner I sold it to! '97 Tahoe Grocery getter/Home Depot/Pet transporter In a message dated 11/18/2005 4:12:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, e36m3@bmw-m.net writes: ----- Original Message ---- From: Stan Shaw <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Fri Nov 18 13:51:52 2005 Subject: [E36M3] How long will you keep your E36 M3? Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:47:39 -0500 From: "Stan Shaw" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: How long will you keep your E36 M3? Just curious, with the recent talk about E30s and E36s. How long do you expect to keep your E36 M3? I have had my '96 M3 for 7.5 years, and intend to keep it FOREVER. Regards, Stan Shaw Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net
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#4. Double clutching - from Matthew Teel
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 19:51:17 -0900 From: "Matthew Teel" <mteel@beluga.com> Subject: Double clutching I'm sure that double clutching is a 70's and earlier thing. If I recall, I first learned the technique in my '65 VW bus. I once blew my clutch in Salt Lake City Utah. I drove all the way back to the CA bay area without it. I would slip it into neutral and blip the throttle, then deftly slip it into the next lower gear. Then I would troll at s-l-o-w speed coming up to a stop light just waiting/praying for it to turn green. Otherwise, I had to kill the engine and hope that I could start it in 1st gear. It's a hard habit to break. I still find myself doing it from time to time. The trick to double-clutching is to control the throttle and brake heal-and-toe. Threshold braking and blipping the throttle is a lost art, or at least I would hope so. One thing for sure... I didn't learn from my '60 Corvair wagon with it's 2-speed automatic! Matthew 98 M3/4
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#5. intro, new old member - from Scott
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:13:38 -0800 From: "Scott" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: intro, new old member Thought I'd send a quick intro mail. I'm looking forward to being a member of the list again. I did a quick search and my last post was in Oct of 2000 :-) I bought a 99 M3/2 new in 99. A stripper: no sunroof, manual seats, forged wheels, etc. Joined Suzy's list as soon as I'd heard about it (can't remember when it started). Loved the car, but being younger and stupid(er), I was fickle and traded it for an S2000, which went for an S4 Avant (and a Miata Turbo), which went for an '03 996 C2. I sold the 996 a couple months ago (didn't drive it since we recently had a kid) and have been shopping for an affordable fun car for a few months. A one-owner, 85k mile 97 M3/2 caught my eye in the local craigslist and I decided to take a look since I remembered the M3 really fondly. It exceeded my expectations so I jumped on it. Cost less than the 2-year deprecation hit on the 996 :-). I'm absolutely loving it so far (had it a week), though unfortunately it's sitting in the shop waiting for an exhaust manifold (cracked) and intake boot (torn). Even with 85k on the clock, it's a really great driving experience. Next steps are to freshen the car: control arms, boge and possibly some euro springs, tie rods, ETC. Already threw on an x-brace. I'm looking forward to doing most of the work myself. Cheers, Scott Stiles '97 M3/2, dinan intake/sw, x-brace '05 S4 Avant (wife's) Near Seattle, WA.
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#6. Re: [E36M3] How long will you keep your E36 M3? - from Scott M
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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 00:36:14 -0800 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How long will you keep your E36 M3? My race car is a C4 Corvette - owned the entire time listed below, actually a few years before I picked up the M3. on 11/18/05 4:12 PM, docwyte@comcast.net at docwyte@comcast.net wrote: > Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 00:09:11 +0000 > From: docwyte@comcast.net > Subject: Re: [E36M3] How long will you keep your E36 M3? > > I went out and bought a Porsche 944 Turbo S as my track car. Loads of fun! > S4 is the daily driver. > > -------------- Original message -------------- > >> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 15:57:20 -0800 (PST) >> From: Scott McClung >> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How long will you keep your E36 M3? >> >> I kept mine for 2.5 years as well. Sold it for something bigger and more >> useable for hauling 4 adults for my business use - E39 M5. Then got a hair up >> my butt for a sports car so had a Z06 for a year. Now I'm back in a more >> suitable replacement for the E39 M5 - a CTS-V. Which I have a 3-year lease >> on, >> so in theory it will be around at least that long.... >> >> Scott >> >> docwyte@comcast.net wrote: >> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 23:41:49 +0000 >> From: docwyte@comcast.net >> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How long will you keep your E36 M3? >> >> Kept mine about 2.5 years, put close to 50k miles on it in that time. I >> would've >> kept it if it was a sedan, needed at least a 4 door to make it easier to get >> the >> baby seat in and out. Wasn't economical to buy a sedan and swap over all the >> parts and I wanted all wheel drive now that I live in Colorado, so I sold it >> and >> bought an S4 Avant. >> > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#7. Re: How long will you keep your E36 M3? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 09:29:02 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: How long will you keep your E36 M3? Forever, or until nature, entropy or accident intervene. Mine is now a highly modified yet still very streetable track car, but retired from daily driver duties. With about 90K miles on it now the 5K or so I add each year should ensure a long life expectancy. Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 77 MGB - Original owner, need to sell 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD!
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#8. Re: Clutch R&R - Summary and Results - from Neil Maller
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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 09:43:01 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Clutch R&R - Summary and Results on 11/18/05 9:50 PM, Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com at Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com wrote: > The double-clutching a British thing? Maybe we come from the land of crappy gearboxes? Probably refused to license the Porsche synchro design after WW II, just on principle. In my late teen years I drove a Fiat 500 that had an unsynchronised gearbox (by design), so I taught myself to double-clutch, then to shift smoothly without using the clutch at all. Since then double-clutching has been second nature. > Simon does it as well, that dude can drive! Yes he can. (Plus he's crazy enough to instruct that Lotus I assigned him once, the one with the factory between-the-legs roll bar...) Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 77 MGB - Original owner, need to sell 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD!
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#9. Re: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 Twitchy E30 and the Matrix - from Gerry Low
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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 10:42:22 -0500 From: Gerry Low <gerry@parallel-mkt.com> Subject: Re: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 Twitchy E30 and the Matrix Jason, Just my observation. I believe that each Chapter keeps stats. Access to the national results might give us all some interesting information. That said, I don't think that our present accident reporting forms ask the right questions, like was the DSC or ASC on/off, did the car have R compounds, and driver experience? Unfortunately, incidents have always been part of the risk of DE's. Today's incidents often end with a write-off. Again DSC (newer cars) should be part of the equation until each driver is truly proficient. Gerry Jason: Do you know for a fact that there are more incidents, or is this just a feeling you have? I figure one car per weekend will get wadded, just going on what I see at NASA events I've attended over the past 4 or 5 years. The number doesn't seem to change. But it is usually a "fast" car. Jason > > --- Gerry Low <gerry@parallel-mkt.com> wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:46:00 -0500 > > From: Gerry Low <gerry@parallel-mkt.com> > > Subject: Re: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 Twitchy E30 and the > > Matrix > > > Again small mistakes with todays extremely fast cars > > are resulting in more incidents than ever. The > > ability to handle a car well is the result of > > experience and mistakes along the way. > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#10. Re: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 Twitchy E30 and the Matrix - from docwyte@comcast.net
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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 15:59:20 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: Re: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 Twitchy E30 and the Matrix At the last BMW DE I attended, they made all the E46 M3 guys keep the traction control on, no matter what group they were in, including the A group. I think they were just reacting to some of the incidents that happened this past season with some other chapters. Unfortunately with the cars being written off, most insurance policies aren't covering the damages. That's a hard pill to swallow on a relatively new and expensive car... -------------- Original message -------------- > Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 10:42:22 -0500 > From: Gerry Low > Subject: Re: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 Twitchy E30 and the Matrix > > Jason, > Just my observation. I believe that each Chapter keeps stats. Access to the > national results might give us all some interesting information. That said, I > don't think that our present accident reporting forms ask the right questions, > like was the DSC or ASC on/off, did the car have R compounds, and driver > experience? > > Unfortunately, incidents have always been part of the risk of DE's. Today's > incidents often end with a write-off. Again DSC (newer cars) should be part of > the equation until each driver is truly proficient. > Gerry >