E36M3 #4563

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 07:23:02

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Radiator at 96K - from Kent L. Shephard
#2. RE: [E36M3] Radiator at 96K - Done - from Kent L. Shephard
#3. RE: [E36M3] Rear shock mounts - from Dave DeBuhr
#4. Re: [E36M3] Rear shock mounts - from Mdriver13@aol.com
#5. Re: [E36M3] "Chuckling" sort of noise from rear? - from Mdriver13@aol.com
#6. RE: [E36M3] Re: Radiator at 96K - from Mike VanAmburgh
#7. Re: [E36M3] "Chuckling" sort of noise from rear? - from Jon@treehouseracing.com
#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Radiator at 96K - from Bruce
#9. Rear shock mounts - from Mo Karamat
#10. Re: [E36M3] RE: Stiff steering - from mdriver13@aol.com
#11. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 Twitchy E30 and the Matrix - from Tripp Racioppi

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Radiator at 96K - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:04:36 -0800 (PST) From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Radiator at 96K > Hmmm, isn't the flimsy neck is also on the driver side... are you sure you > don't see some coolant right below the neck? I noticed splatters of > coolant > coming out of nowhere before the neck fell-offs. Either way, at 96K, your > radiator has been past-due. > Yea, the neck is on that side. I could be wrong. It could be that the trickle is so small that It's not obvious. >> So I need to drain the coolant from the radiator to put the >> new one in. > > You will not drain more than 1/4 of the coolant in the system. Don't worry > about the loss. Just add more until the new radiator is full and call it > even. > Wasn't sure about how much. Last time I had the system open, it was for the water pump and themostart. > > Don't forget to keep the bleed screw open as you add liquid/run the > engine. > Yea, I forgot the first time and what a pain!!!.. Kent

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#2. RE: [E36M3] Radiator at 96K - Done - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:07:57 -0800 (PST) From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Radiator at 96K - Done Hi, Thanks for all the help. WHAT A GROUP!!!!!!!! I'll have it by Friday - $185 including express service. Kent

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#3. RE: [E36M3] Rear shock mounts - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:51:49 -0800 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Rear shock mounts Can't go wrong witrh Rogue or Ground Control (which I have). -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 10:51 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear shock mounts Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:47:53 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear shock mounts On Mon, November 21, 2005 10:21 am, j. helffrich said: > Looking at Ireland, JT Designs and Ground > Control...all three are urethane. Any recommendations > there? I have JTD ones in both cars and have had no issues. Rogue Engineering also makes 'em, and they are a list sponsor. Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Rear shock mounts - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:13:03 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear shock mounts In a message dated 11/21/2005 1:22:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, girolamous@yahoo.com writes: Looking at Ireland, JT Designs and Ground Control...all three are urethane. Any recommendations there? I've used both the JT Design and Rogue RSMs. The accessibility of the bushings with the JT Design mounts is second to none. Both excellent products...you could not go wrong with either one. Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005 Philly Region BSP Champion

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#5. Re: [E36M3] "Chuckling" sort of noise from rear? - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:33:39 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] "Chuckling" sort of noise from rear? In a message dated 11/21/2005 2:02:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, deilenberger@yahoo.com writes: Since I have no stick-shift drivers around me, I can't get in the back and try localizing it. Hi Don, This is a sorry state of affairs today. I cut my teeth on manual tranny cars, most with bad clutches. I get this in the dead of winter, when I take the M3 to my local Andretti car wash. They almost have to find Michael or Mario to run it through ;-)) Chances are with the on set of cold weather, it could be the shocks. It happens to me every winter with the Koni DA's. A low chunking sound over small bumps, almost continual here in PA/NJ. Some said it was the RSMs, changed from JT Designs to Rogue ... no difference. Some said it was the Koni's...I think they're right. When the temperature hits about 60 and above the sound goes away. Gets really loud when the temp is below freezing. If you find it is something else, please let me know...without the radio on, it drives me crazy! Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005 Philly Region BSP Champion

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#6. RE: [E36M3] Re: Radiator at 96K - from Mike VanAmburgh
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:27:37 -0600 From: "Mike VanAmburgh" <mvanamburgh@charter.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Radiator at 96K You might mean eeuroparts.com on eBay. I've picked up two of them from him for a 92 325i and 97 M3. They are the Nissens brand but they seem to hold up just fine (so far). For an auto car as the wife's 92 325i was, you'll need to drill small holes to mount the transmission cooler - no big deal. James Clay at Bimmerworld also has a good price for the Nissens. I recently acquired one from him for my 95 M3. Mike >eeurosports on ebay autos.. do a search on E36 radiator. $139 >delivered anywhere in the US. I got one - fit perfect, was a >Nissen brand (Holland). The two hose connecting tubes are >different than the Bahr one - instead of the multiple rings >like the Bahr has - there was one ring right near the tip, >the rest was smoothish plastic.. making it thicker around >where they like to break. It must use a slightly different rivet >on the right side where the fan shroud fastens.. had to open >up the hole just a bit to fit the one from the old radiator. >This is easier to do before install (DAMHIK..) so you may want >to check this before installing it. > >And you can install it without fan removal (my fan was being >uncooperative..) remove the shroud, pull it back and over the >fan, remove the hoses and take radiator straight up.. > >Assembly=reverse > >I figured for that price I could do it every 75k miles if >necessary (the old one looked just FINE when I took it out, >it's in the loft as a spare..) > > >Don Eilenberger, AKA SquidBOOF, Spring Lk Hts, NJ

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#7. Re: [E36M3] "Chuckling" sort of noise from rear? - from Jon@treehouseracing.com
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:32:02 -0600 From: "Jon@treehouseracing.com" <jon@treehouseracing.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] "Chuckling" sort of noise from rear? "Chuckling"? That's the sound your car makes when it's laughing at you. Jon ______________________________________________ Jon Siccardi - DM #052 TreehouseRacing.com M50conversion.com 615.333.9118 ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mdriver13@aol.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] "Chuckling" sort of noise from rear? > Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:33:39 EST > From: Mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] "Chuckling" sort of noise from rear? > > In a message dated 11/21/2005 2:02:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, > deilenberger@yahoo.com writes: > Since I have no stick-shift drivers around me, I can't get in > the back and try localizing it. > Hi Don, > > This is a sorry state of affairs today. I cut my teeth on manual tranny > cars, most with bad clutches. I get this in the dead of winter, when I take the > M3 to my local Andretti car wash. They almost have to find Michael or Mario to > run it through ;-)) > > Chances are with the on set of cold weather, it could be the shocks. It > happens to me every winter with the Koni DA's. A low chunking sound over small > bumps, almost continual here in PA/NJ. Some said it was the RSMs, changed from > JT Designs to Rogue ... no difference. Some said it was the Koni's...I think > they're right. When the temperature hits about 60 and above the sound goes > away. Gets really loud when the temp is below freezing. If you find it is > something else, please let me know...without the radio on, it drives me crazy! > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe > Philly Region SCCA > 2005 Philly Region BSP Champion > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Radiator at 96K - from Bruce
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:05:23 -0600 From: "Bruce" <gobuffs93@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Radiator at 96K One of our locals indy shops says to get the Nissen over the Behr as there have been a rash of failures (more premature than the already fragile OE one) with the Behrs. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike VanAmburgh" <mvanamburgh@charter.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:31 PM Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Radiator at 96K > Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:27:37 -0600 > From: "Mike VanAmburgh" <mvanamburgh@charter.net> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Radiator at 96K > > You might mean eeuroparts.com on eBay. I've picked up two of them from > him > for a 92 325i and 97 M3. They are the Nissens brand but they seem to hold > up just fine (so far). For an auto car as the wife's 92 325i was, you'll > need to drill small holes to mount the transmission cooler - no big deal. > > James Clay at Bimmerworld also has a good price for the Nissens. I > recently > acquired one from him for my 95 M3. > > Mike > > > >>eeurosports on ebay autos.. do a search on E36 radiator. $139 >>delivered anywhere in the US. I got one - fit perfect, was a >>Nissen brand (Holland). The two hose connecting tubes are >>different than the Bahr one - instead of the multiple rings >>like the Bahr has - there was one ring right near the tip, >>the rest was smoothish plastic.. making it thicker around >>where they like to break. It must use a slightly different rivet >>on the right side where the fan shroud fastens.. had to open >>up the hole just a bit to fit the one from the old radiator. >>This is easier to do before install (DAMHIK..) so you may want >>to check this before installing it. >> >>And you can install it without fan removal (my fan was being >>uncooperative..) remove the shroud, pull it back and over the >>fan, remove the hoses and take radiator straight up.. >> >>Assembly=reverse >> >>I figured for that price I could do it every 75k miles if >>necessary (the old one looked just FINE when I took it out, >>it's in the loft as a spare..) >> >> >>Don Eilenberger, AKA SquidBOOF, Spring Lk Hts, NJ > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#9. Rear shock mounts - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:07:53 -0500 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: Rear shock mounts Jerry, Hello.. I have the GC RSM's in both my m3/4 and my 91IX. They have been in the cars for several years. I would highly reccomend them.. Mo -------------------- 1 -------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:21:00 -0800 (PST) From: "j. helffrich" <girolamous@yahoo.com> Subject: Rear shock mounts Hi All, Thanks to Alan, Jay and Carlos for the various replies on the stainless brake lines--Goodrich and UUC came up as the best for the money. While there, I am going to replace the rear shock mounts since I hear a subtle rattle when going over bumps on the back wheels. Looking at Ireland, JT Designs and Ground Control...all three are urethane. Any recommendations there? Thanks, Jerry Jerry Helffrich

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#10. Re: [E36M3] RE: Stiff steering - from mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:13:05 -0500 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Stiff steering How does one change the power steering fluid? Doesn't this get flushed when you change the brake fluid? TIA, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#11. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 Twitchy E30 and the Matrix - from Tripp Racioppi
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:16:13 -0800 (PST) From: Tripp Racioppi <r3_m3@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 Twitchy E30 and the Matrix pete, i wish you had been instructing me as i began my track experience! most of my instructors never mentioned the ASC one way or the other. those who did, had me turn it off. when i crashed at Summit Point i had it off, having had it on all weekend. i like your approach....learn why it is engaging and get a "seat feel" for what is happening when it does and learn to not do that......THEN.. try without it on....thanx r3 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:32:12 -0800 From: Peter Fanning <pbfanning@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 Twitchy E30 and the Matrix Yes, with the DSC on. It's a great learning tool. My $0.02? The DSC will help keep the inexperienced student from spinning or going agricultural. As an instructor you can point out to the student that the traction control is doing their work. Ask the student why the traction control is activating. When they can answer that question move to the next objective. Still keep the traction control on but have the student work to NOT engage the traction control or just engage the first level. IF they can keep the car quick and consistent, know why the traction control would active AND have the feel to know when the traction control will activate then turn off the traction control and start working on feeling the car move, slip angles and slide management (ba careful to pick your corner). You can teach smooth, consistent, vision, weight management and feeling/awareness with the traction control on. Most novice/intermediate students engage traction control due to everything BUT consciously applied maximum grip. OK, so that was $0.10. Peter Fanning '95 318ti '98 M3/4 '03 530i --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

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