E36M3 #4574

Thursday, December 01, 2005 16:10:12

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#1. FS: OEM Staggered Contours - from Raza Uddin
#2. Re: [E36M3] Crappy plastic clutch pedal!! - from Tripp Racioppi
#3. Re: [E36M3] Crappy plastic clutch pedal!! - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
#4. Re: [E36M3] Crappy plastic clutch pedal!! - from geoff atkinson
#5. Trip Reset Pin - Can it be removed? - from Patrick Goss - PA
#6. Re: [E36M3] Trip Reset Pin - Can it be removed? - from Jim Bassett
#7. [E36M3] Grrrr, my wife brushed a curb at 25!!! Curb rash - from Dave DeBuhr
#8. Re: [E36M3] Grrrr, my wife brushed a curb at 25!!! Curb rash - from Kent L. Shephard
#9. Re: [E36M3] Grrrr, my wife brushed a curb at 25!!! Curb rash - from Scott McClung
#10. Re: [E36M3] Grrrr, my wife brushed a curb at 25!!! Curb rash - from mdriver13@aol.com

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#1. FS: OEM Staggered Contours - from Raza Uddin
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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:35:38 -0800 From: Raza Uddin <raza.uddin@gmail.com> Subject: FS: OEM Staggered Contours For sale is a set of OEM, genuine Contours off of my 1998 M3 sedan. The wheels are straight, with no bends, and balance with very little weight. There is no curb rash, but a few wheels have mounting marks and are still in very good condition. They are definitely worthty of a cleaner BMW. Pictures with details of all blemishes can be found here: http://photobucket.com/albums/v489/ruddin3/Contours/ The tires are at the wear bars- the fronts wrapped in 225/45/17 S03s and the rears in 245/40/17 Pilot Sports. I'm asking $700 OBO (Buyer pays shipping). Wheels are located in Berkeley, CA. Drive Safely, Raza

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Crappy plastic clutch pedal!! - from Tripp Racioppi
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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 07:22:44 -0800 (PST) From: Tripp Racioppi <r3_m3@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Crappy plastic clutch pedal!! Reid.. In my limited experience on the track (3-4 Driving schools) I have to agree with you. I installed a DIY clutch stop in my 97 M3. I forgot what forum or list i got the plans from, but it an elevator bolt, a nut, and a large washer. Worked great on the street; and as you say, on the rare occassion someone else drove the car, they cussed and stalled (stalled and cussed?). Anyway, first weekend at VIR, second or third track session, it was hard to get into first and a definate "chunck" whe going into second for turn 1 after the front straight. My instructor said he had burned up a couple of clutches and trannys with a stop. So I took it out....not a problem since.....r3 Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> wrote: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:09:05 -0800 From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Crappy plastic clutch pedal!! I think I used a UUC one on the M3. To be honest, here's why I haven't put a clutch stop in my M Coupe, although I may reconsider. I adjusted my stop so that the engagement point was *just* above the stop point. The problem was, as the transmission got hot (and especially on warm days, 70-80+ in Seattle), the engagement point got closer and closer to the stop, and sometimes the tranny would grind or not want to engage. Sure, I could back it off a bit, but then I'd have a bit of travel before it engages while cold, and would engage just off the stop when hot. Now I never notice the clutch travel difference cold/hot without a stop (because they're within a margin of error that is too difficult to feel on that long a pedal travel), but you DO notice it with the stop. Furthermore, if anyone drives my car (very, very rare), they'd stall it with the clutch stop. And if I drive any other manual transmission car, I keep revving the engine too hard and slipping the clutch too much. So all in all, it seemed like it didn't really benefit me in driving my car (nice to have shorter pedal travel I guess, but not nice to have grinding and such), but decreased my performance in other cars, and the performance of others in my car. Comments? - reid --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Crappy plastic clutch pedal!! - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:00:26 -0500 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Crappy plastic clutch pedal!! >Anyway, first weekend at VIR, second or third track session, it was hard to get into first and a definate "chunck" whe going into second for turn 1 after the >front straight. My instructor said he had burned up a couple of clutches and trannys with a stop. So I took it out....not a problem since.....r3 I would say that with a clutch stop you gotta be careful and first make sure that you're actually engaging (disengaging?) the clutch where you have it set. Like Reid's method of minimal travel is IMO not the way to go. I believe I bent something in the transmission of my E30 M3 due to the clutch stop and it's basically my fault for not making sure that it was adjusted correctly. The car up on 4 jack stands would be one method to make sure that the driveshaft doesn't spin as you engage/disengage the clutch. What I do with *all* of them now, an old Stygar one that I got 5 years ago and with a newish UUC big boy one is I cut about 1/2" off the end so that it threads further than what it was originally designed for. If you adjust it so that the gears engage just off the stop then you should keep an eye on it and adjust it periodically, I didn't on mine and like I said I bent something in that transmission, it never worked quite the same afterwards. Now I leave quite a bit of room where you still benefit from having a clutch stop (I can sit further rearward) but not so that you stall the car if you happen to not daily drive it and get used to the clutch on some other car. -Carlos 98 M3 x91 M3

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Crappy plastic clutch pedal!! - from geoff atkinson
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Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:04:28 -0500 From: "geoff atkinson" <pskalc@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Crappy plastic clutch pedal!! Hi all, Speaking of this... Does anyone have one laying around (with the bushings) that they'd like to get rid of? I've been thinking of doing something about this for a while now... Thank you. -Geoff Atkinson ....Cheap, cheap>--- Gary <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> wrote: >: Crappy plastic clutch pedal!! > > > > SO am I the only one who can't stand the crappy plastic clutch pedal? > > > > Thing moves around like Jell-O! I think I am going to make one out of > > something else..

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#5. Trip Reset Pin - Can it be removed? - from Patrick Goss - PA
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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:47:21 -0600 From: "Patrick Goss - PA" <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: Trip Reset Pin - Can it be removed? Okay the button comes off with a gentle pull, and those versed in cluster removal know how to pull the actual gauges from the cluster housing (turning the retainer cogs on the back 180 degrees to open), so the question is for those that have gone this far is "can the trip reset button pin be removed". This is a good Jim Bassett or Chester question I think, I bet they know.... Patrick Goss 97 M3/4

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Trip Reset Pin - Can it be removed? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 11:55:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Trip Reset Pin - Can it be removed? On Thu, December 1, 2005 11:49 am, Patrick Goss - PA said: > This is a good Jim Bassett or Chester question I think, I bet they > know.... Sorry to disappoint, but I have no clue. I've never disassembled a cluster, only removed them from the car. Jim Bassett

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#7. [E36M3] Grrrr, my wife brushed a curb at 25!!! Curb rash - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:30:35 -0800 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: [E36M3] Grrrr, my wife brushed a curb at 25!!! Curb rash Welp, my wife was checking out another man or something and put some rash on one of my forged LTW wheels. Not horrible but I still want to get it fixed. Rim still looks straight so I think it is mostly cosmetic. Is there anyone recommended in the SF Bay Area (East Bay preferrably) that can fix it and re-clearcoat it? I'm also thinking about powdercoating the centers black and getting the lips polished as I think that looks kinda cool on a white M3! Dave

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Grrrr, my wife brushed a curb at 25!!! Curb rash - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:52:35 -0800 (PST) From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Grrrr, my wife brushed a curb at 25!!! Curb rash Hi, I don't know about the paint and clear coat, but for powder coating, I suggeest Maas Tech Coat Inc (510) 471-6227 31010 San Clemente St They did a great job on wheels for my VFR800. Kent > Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:30:35 -0800 > From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> > Subject: [E36M3] Grrrr, my wife brushed a curb at 25!!! Curb rash > > Welp, my wife was checking out another man or something and > put some rash on one of my forged LTW wheels. Not horrible but I still > want > to get it fixed. > Rim still looks straight so I think it is mostly cosmetic. > Is there anyone recommended in the SF Bay Area (East Bay preferrably) that > can > fix it and re-clearcoat it? I'm also thinking about powdercoating the > centers black > and getting the lips polished as I think that looks kinda cool on a white > M3! > > Dave > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Grrrr, my wife brushed a curb at 25!!! Curb rash - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:00:10 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Grrrr, my wife brushed a curb at 25!!! Curb rash That's why my wife won't even drive my "special" cars. She knows I will harbor some resentment towards her no matter how much I try not to, in the event of such an issue (or worse). And looking at the condition of her now 2 year old car, I think she is making a smart decision :-) :-) Wheel Techniques - Campbell. I could run it over for you if you ship it down to me. Scott Dave DeBuhr <debuhr@comcast.net> wrote: Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:30:35 -0800 From: "Dave DeBuhr" Subject: [E36M3] Grrrr, my wife brushed a curb at 25!!! Curb rash Welp, my wife was checking out another man or something and put some rash on one of my forged LTW wheels. Not horrible but I still want to get it fixed. Rim still looks straight so I think it is mostly cosmetic. Is there anyone recommended in the SF Bay Area (East Bay preferrably) that can fix it and re-clearcoat it? I'm also thinking about powdercoating the centers black and getting the lips polished as I think that looks kinda cool on a white M3! Dave ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Grrrr, my wife brushed a curb at 25!!! Curb rash - from mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:05:20 -0500 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Grrrr, my wife brushed a curb at 25!!! Curb rash If you can spare to have them off the car for some time, give Daryl the owner of Wheel Collision Center in Bath, PA a call (800-292-7467). They do really great work. Had one of my M Contour wheels refinished there and have sent many others with excellent results. Tell Daryl I sent you and ask for the SCCA discount. Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe (sponsored by WCC and JT Designs) Philly Region SCCA 2005 Philly Region BSP Champion -----Original Message----- From: Dave DeBuhr <debuhr@comcast.net> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 15:39:29 -0600 Subject: [E36M3] Grrrr, my wife brushed a curb at 25!!! Curb rash Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 13:30:35 -0800 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: [E36M3] Grrrr, my wife brushed a curb at 25!!! Curb rash Welp, my wife was checking out another man or something and put some rash on one of my forged LTW wheels. Not horrible but I still want to get it fixed. Rim still looks straight so I think it is mostly cosmetic. Is there anyone recommended in the SF Bay Area (East Bay preferrably) that can fix it and re-clearcoat it? I'm also thinking about powdercoating the centers black and getting the lips polished as I think that looks kinda cool on a white M3! Dave ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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