E36M3 #4587

Sunday, December 11, 2005 21:50:22

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: Ti - from Stan Shaw
#2. RE: Tire Suggestion - from Robert Puertas
#3. Re: Tire Suggestion - from Tucker Ryals
#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: Tire Suggestion - from Gary
#5. Re: Update on ABS light goofiness - from Don Eilenberger
#6. Re: [E36M3] Tire Suggestion - from Cole Goeppinger
#7. Re: Tire Recommendation - from Shane Kleinpeter
#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Tire Recommendation - from Jason Knight
#9. FS: OEM Staggered Contours - from Raza Uddin
#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Tire Recommendation - from Hans Batra

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#1. Re: Ti - from Stan Shaw
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:52:12 -0500 From: "Stan Shaw" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: Re: Ti I went from Kumho 712s to Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 last year, and am very happy. Wet weather performance is tremendously improved. Regards, Stan Shaw Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 Excell.Net Owner/Operator http://www.Excell.Net/ 928 Owners Club President http://www.928OC.org/ 928Racing.net Team Member http://www.928Racing.net/ "Liberty once lost is lost forever." - John Adams

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#2. RE: Tire Suggestion - from Robert Puertas
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:31:00 -0800 From: "Robert Puertas" <Puertas@cox.net> Subject: RE: Tire Suggestion Yokohama A032 Soft compound in 245/40-17 They are discontinued, so they're priced around $160 each. Yokohama warehouse in CA has 150 or so left in that size as of last week. I love this tire on the Elise, but haven't tried them on the M3 yet. I can get pretty competetive pricing on Yokohamas if your local dealer can't help. Robert www.blackwatchracing.com

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#3. Re: Tire Suggestion - from Tucker Ryals
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:51:54 -0800 (PST) From: Tucker Ryals <tuckerryals@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Tire Suggestion Ahmad, I have had the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 on my '95 M3 for ~20k miles now and love them. I've used Kumho, Yokohama and Bridgestone previously. They are not super cheap, but much less then the typical Michelins. See this link: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+F1+GS-D3 Cheers, Tucker > -------------------- 1 -------------------- > Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:13:29 -0500 > From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> > Subject: Tire Suggestion > > > Group, > > I have been using Kumho 711s on my car (street use). > I must say that these > are the worst tires I have ever used (period). They > are horrible in the wet, > infact you can break them loose during WOT in 2nd > gear. > > My previous set were Michelin Pilot Sports. I really > enjoyed these tires ( a > lot) however, since I am running -3.5 up front and > -2.2 rear, the tire wear > does not justify spending the $$$. > > Car is a 75% track car and 25% street driver. I have > a dedicated set of > track wheels and tires however I still drive it out > once in a while (and to > and back from the track). > > I generally change tires once a year (skidpad > training and tons of autox as > well). > > Any suggestion on tires? I was thinking about the MX > 245s ($120) (wet > driving is primary concern here) or just getting the > RA1s 255s unshaved > ($150) and use them as street tires. $600 is my > absolute budget. Any other > suggestion/ideas? > > TIA > > Ahmad > 98/2 I Stock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: Tire Suggestion - from Gary
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 15:25:25 -0600 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Tire Suggestion I had three sets of SO3's on my 95 I just bought a set of Hankook RS2's on the recomendation of a SCCA buddy..HOLY COW! Those things stick as good or better than the S03's for half the cost. I got them from Discount tire. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tucker Ryals" <tuckerryals@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 2:59 PM Subject: [E36M3] Re: Tire Suggestion > Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:51:54 -0800 (PST) > From: Tucker Ryals <tuckerryals@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Tire Suggestion > > Ahmad, > > I have had the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 on my '95 M3 > for ~20k miles now and love them. I've used Kumho, > Yokohama and Bridgestone previously. They are not > super cheap, but much less then the typical Michelins. > > See this link: > > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Eagle+F1+GS-D3 > > Cheers, > Tucker > >> -------------------- 1 -------------------- >> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:13:29 -0500 >> From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> >> Subject: Tire Suggestion >> >> >> Group, >> >> I have been using Kumho 711s on my car (street use). >> I must say that these >> are the worst tires I have ever used (period). They >> are horrible in the wet, >> infact you can break them loose during WOT in 2nd >> gear. >> >> My previous set were Michelin Pilot Sports. I really >> enjoyed these tires ( a >> lot) however, since I am running -3.5 up front and >> -2.2 rear, the tire wear >> does not justify spending the $$$. >> >> Car is a 75% track car and 25% street driver. I have >> a dedicated set of >> track wheels and tires however I still drive it out >> once in a while (and to >> and back from the track). >> >> I generally change tires once a year (skidpad >> training and tons of autox as >> well). >> >> Any suggestion on tires? I was thinking about the MX >> 245s ($120) (wet >> driving is primary concern here) or just getting the >> RA1s 255s unshaved >> ($150) and use them as street tires. $600 is my >> absolute budget. Any other >> suggestion/ideas? >> >> TIA >> >> Ahmad >> 98/2 I Stock > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#5. Re: Update on ABS light goofiness - from Don Eilenberger
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:11:54 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Update on ABS light goofiness At 12:09 PM 12/10/2005, you wrote: >Here's the latest. My car needed new brakes and rotors so they did what >they could to clean the ABS sensors. One of the sensors was not in great >shape, but not broken, so they did nothing. The problem is still >present. It also is triggered if I deliberately activate ABS by slamming >on the brakes. So at the end of the pulsing it kicks on. The repair guy >said that because it is a soft fault which resets when you turn the car >off/on, there is no code to detect. Jason - find a new repair guy. He is FOS in the "soft-code" thing. The ABS module is quite capable of storing codes for things like a wheel sensor. BTDT on mine - and all the scanners I used that read ABS found it. In my case - it even stored codes for "wheel speed improbable" (meaning way too fast..) >I have an extended warranty, but it doesn't pay for diagnosis, so I'm not >keen on having the shop futz around indefinitely. Find a new shop. >Alternatively, that Jetta value edition lease deal ($249/mo for 39 >months with no fees) is pretty appealing for wintertime. > >Jason >97 M3 Coupe, Cosmos Black 93K mi Best, Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1, PSJ, SquidBOOF#1 deilenberger@verizon.net NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.njsbmwr.org/ Moderator BMW E39 Enthusiast Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe39 ==================================================================== "Argue with an idiot and he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience" - Dilbert "The difference between intelligence and stupidity is - there is a limit to intelligence" - Anon ====================================================================

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Tire Suggestion - from Cole Goeppinger
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:13:15 -0800 From: "Cole Goeppinger" <cole@ronzer.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Tire Suggestion Car and Driver just did a street tire comparo: http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=4&article_id=10252 They rated the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 as #1. I'm running Kumho Ecsta MXs on my 97 M3, which they rated dead last. I have no complaints with them, but I mostly use them to get to/from the track where I swap on my RA1s. Cole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 8:19 AM Subject: [E36M3] Tire Suggestion > Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:13:29 -0500 > From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> > Subject: Tire Suggestion > > > Group, > > I have been using Kumho 711s on my car (street use). I must say that these > are the worst tires I have ever used (period). They are horrible in the > wet, > infact you can break them loose during WOT in 2nd gear. > > My previous set were Michelin Pilot Sports. I really enjoyed these tires > ( a > lot) however, since I am running -3.5 up front and -2.2 rear, the tire > wear > does not justify spending the $$$. > > Car is a 75% track car and 25% street driver. I have a dedicated set of > track wheels and tires however I still drive it out once in a while (and > to > and back from the track). > > I generally change tires once a year (skidpad training and tons of autox > as > well). > > Any suggestion on tires? I was thinking about the MX 245s ($120) (wet > driving is primary concern here) or just getting the RA1s 255s unshaved > ($150) and use them as street tires. $600 is my absolute budget. Any other > suggestion/ideas? > > TIA > > Ahmad > 98/2 I Stock > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#7. Re:  Tire Recommendation - from Shane Kleinpeter
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:20:58 -0800 (PST) From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Tire Recommendation > by: Ahmad Lutfeali <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> > Any suggestion on tires? I was thinking about the MX > 245s ($120) (wet > driving is primary concern here) or just getting the > RA1s 255s unshaved > ($150) and use them as street tires. $600 is my > absolute budget. Any other > suggestion/ideas? I have the Avon M500's and really like them. A set of 4 are less than $500 from Tire Rack. Wet and dry performance are excellent and very little road noise. I don't know about longevity since I have only had them for 5k miles or so. I run them on my nearly stock '96 M3. Shane K. '96 M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re:  Tire Recommendation - from Jason Knight
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:53:15 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Tire Recommendation If I hadn't been spending money hand over fist the last few months (Sentra track car, wheels and tires for it, three cases of wine 'cuz they were "cheap", a box of Cuban cigars 'cuz they were "cheap", DL1 data logger for the missus 'cuz it was "cheap" (thanks Chester!), etc....) I'd be getting a set of Yokohama A032Rs for my track wheels, since right now they're "cheap". Why not run R compunds on the street? Maybe I should just get a home equity loan, since money is relatively "cheap" right now. Or maybe I should just quit buying all this cheap stuff. Anyhow, that's my longwinded way of saying I'd suggest getting the A032Rs. Jason --- Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:20:58 -0800 (PST) > From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Tire Recommendation > > > by: Ahmad Lutfeali > <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> > > Any suggestion on tires? I was thinking about the > MX > > 245s ($120) (wet > > driving is primary concern here) or just getting > the > > RA1s 255s unshaved > > ($150) and use them as street tires. $600 is my > > absolute budget. Any other > > suggestion/ideas? > > I have the Avon M500's and really like them. A set > of > 4 are less than $500 from Tire Rack. Wet and dry > performance are excellent and very little road > noise. > I don't know about longevity since I have only had > them for 5k miles or so. > > I run them on my nearly stock '96 M3. > > Shane K. > '96 M3 > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#9. FS: OEM Staggered Contours - from Raza Uddin
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:21:18 -0800 From: Raza Uddin <raza.uddin@gmail.com> Subject: FS: OEM Staggered Contours I posted this earlier and no one has bought them yet, leading me to reduce the price from $700. For sale is a set of OEM, genuine Contours off of my 1998 M3 sedan. The wheels are straight, with no bends, and balance with very little weight. There is no curb rash, but a few wheels have mounting marks and are still in very good condition. They are definitely worthy of a cleaner BMW. Pictures with details of all blemishes can be found here: http://photobucket.com/albums/v489/ruddin3/Contours/ The tires are at the wear bars- the fronts wrapped in 225/45/17 S03s and the rears in 245/40/17 Pilot Sports. Now asking $650 OBO (Buyer pays shipping). Wheels are located in Berkeley, CA. Drive Safely, Raza

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re:  Tire Recommendation - from Hans Batra
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:47:54 -0500 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Tire Recommendation Jason, If you wants cheap money, ya gots to go to them Japanese (1.85%): http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nb20051209a8.htm regards, Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Knight" <knight2244@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Tire Recommendation > Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:53:15 -0800 (PST) > From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Tire Recommendation > > If I hadn't been spending money hand over fist the > last few months (Sentra track car, wheels and tires > for it, three cases of wine 'cuz they were "cheap", a > box of Cuban cigars 'cuz they were "cheap", DL1 data > logger for the missus 'cuz it was "cheap" (thanks > Chester!), etc....) I'd be getting a set of Yokohama > A032Rs for my track wheels, since right now they're > "cheap". Why not run R compunds on the street? > > Maybe I should just get a home equity loan, since > money is relatively "cheap" right now. Or maybe I > should just quit buying all this cheap stuff. > > Anyhow, that's my longwinded way of saying I'd suggest > getting the A032Rs. > > Jason > > --- Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:20:58 -0800 (PST) >> From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: Tire Recommendation >> >> > by: Ahmad Lutfeali >> <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> >> > Any suggestion on tires? I was thinking about the >> MX >> > 245s ($120) (wet >> > driving is primary concern here) or just getting >> the >> > RA1s 255s unshaved >> > ($150) and use them as street tires. $600 is my >> > absolute budget. Any other >> > suggestion/ideas? >> >> I have the Avon M500's and really like them. A set >> of >> 4 are less than $500 from Tire Rack. Wet and dry >> performance are excellent and very little road >> noise. >> I don't know about longevity since I have only had >> them for 5k miles or so. >> >> I run them on my nearly stock '96 M3. >> >> Shane K. >> '96 M3 >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >> protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> ************************************************* >> Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our >> sponsors: >> >> Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >> Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >> Eurosport High Performance >> http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >> Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >> Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >> Elephant Motorsports Inc. >> http://www.elephantmotorsports.com >> >> DIGEST INFORMATION: >> http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >> ************************************************* >> >> >> > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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