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#1. Re: TIre Suggestion - from Shane Kleinpeter
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:16:41 -0800 (PST) From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: TIre Suggestion >Maybe I should just get a home equity loan, since >money is relatively "cheap" right now. Or maybe I >should just quit buying all this cheap stuff. >Anyhow, that's my longwinded way of saying I'd suggest >getting the A032Rs. Am I the only one that hates the Yokohama A032? These are, IMVHO, the worst, suckiest R-compound tire around. They howl worse than a basset does at the moon, they have next to no grip, and while they wear relatively well, the last half of the tread is uselessly hard. And don't even get me started about their rain performance. I've seen more wrecks in the wet by drivers running these things than any other tire. The false sense of security comes from the "agressive aqua tusk design" or whatever they call it, but anybody with a lick of sense would look at the tread/void ratio and realize their (low) potential as a rain tire. Buy Toyo RA-1's if you are considering a track tire in this class, they are the very best of the long wearing R-compound tires. The noise of A032's alone would keep me from running them on the street. And while I'm throwing cold water on everybody's suggestion, I'm going to suggest that running R compounds on the street isn't that great an idea. The tires pick up more stones and grit off the road and throw it off onto the paint on the rear bumper. So unless you run mud flaps (ha!), you'll sand-blast the rear bumper cover on the side of the car in fairly short order. Humbly, Shane K. '96 M3 '94 325i, #76 ITS/JP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion - from mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:46:47 -0500 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion Shane, I totally agree with your comments. Leave the r-compounds for the track or autoxing. My daily tires are Kumho 712's, sure they're terrible in the rain...but for $400 you have a set of street tires that I always run within their limits. I save the fast stuff for my r-compounds and the track/autox. Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe (sponsored by WCC & JT-Designs) Philly Region SCCA 2005 Philly Region BSP Champion -----Original Message----- From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:19:32 -0600 Subject: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:16:41 -0800 (PST) From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: TIre Suggestion >Maybe I should just get a home equity loan, since >money is relatively "cheap" right now. Or maybe I >should just quit buying all this cheap stuff. >Anyhow, that's my longwinded way of saying I'd suggest >getting the A032Rs. Am I the only one that hates the Yokohama A032? These are, IMVHO, the worst, suckiest R-compound tire around. They howl worse than a basset does at the moon, they have next to no grip, and while they wear relatively well, the last half of the tread is uselessly hard. And don't even get me started about their rain performance. I've seen more wrecks in the wet by drivers running these things than any other tire. The false sense of security comes from the "agressive aqua tusk design" or whatever they call it, but anybody with a lick of sense would look at the tread/void ratio and realize their (low) potential as a rain tire. Buy Toyo RA-1's if you are considering a track tire in this class, they are the very best of the long wearing R-compound tires. The noise of A032's alone would keep me from running them on the street. And while I'm throwing cold water on everybody's suggestion, I'm going to suggest that running R compounds on the street isn't that great an idea. The tires pick up more stones and grit off the road and throw it off onto the paint on the rear bumper. So unless you run mud flaps (ha!), you'll sand-blast the rear bumper cover on the side of the car in fairly short order. Humbly, Shane K. '96 M3 '94 325i, #76 ITS/JP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#3. FS: Double Spoke 2 and Contours - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:59:28 -0500 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: FS: Double Spoke 2 and Contours Group, I have a set of DSII 7.5 inch wheels in "excellent" condition for sale $600. Set of M Contours staggered with Kumhos, 1/3 life remaining; $600. Email me offline if interested. Thanks in advance. A.L.
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#4. Re: Tire suggestions - from Dave Bell
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:07:09 -0500 From: Dave Bell <davebell@cox.net> Subject: Re: Tire suggestions > Group, > > I have been using Kumho 711s on my car (street use). I must say that these > are the worst tires I have ever used (period). They are horrible in the wet, > infact you can break them loose during WOT in 2nd gear. > > My previous set were Michelin Pilot Sports. I really enjoyed these tires ( a > lot) however, since I am running -3.5 up front and -2.2 rear, the tire wear > does not justify spending the $$$. > > Car is a 75% track car and 25% street driver. I have a dedicated set of > track wheels and tires however I still drive it out once in a while (and to > and back from the track). > > I generally change tires once a year (skidpad training and tons of autox as > well). > > Any suggestion on tires? I was thinking about the MX 245s ($120) (wet > driving is primary concern here) or just getting the RA1s 255s unshaved > ($150) and use them as street tires. $600 is my absolute budget. Any other > suggestion/ideas? > > TIA > > Ahmad > 98/2 I Stock I have about 500 miles on Hankook Ventus R-S2s. So far, I've been reasonably happy with them, but they're not rated to last very long. Given your camber, you'll probably shred them pretty quickly, but they're certainly cheap enough. As a former Kumho user, I can say that they're definitely better than the Kumhos. I doubt they're better than the PS2s. They're not _quite_ as good as the S03s I replaced - but close, for street driving. They're about half the cost, however. http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?sw=false&cs=235&pc=11870&rd=17&ar=40 (I'm pretty sure TireRack has them, too) Best wishes, Dave Bell 95 M3
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#5. Re: Tire Suggestion - from Carl Stern
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:45:35 -0700 From: Carl Stern <carl.stern@xilinx.com> Subject: Re: Tire Suggestion Another vote for the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 here. I've got about 13k on mine and they're wearing well. (Although my co-worker only got about 12k on the rear of his MB C36. That's what another 100+ ft. lbs. will do to you) They don't have the initial turn in response that the MXX3s had, but they are quieter, smoother, don't tramline like the MXX3s did and stick about as good as my Yoko A032Rs. They also have a nice rim protector bead. I never care about wet performance, but these things are amazing. Best thing I've ever driven in the wet, including various all terrain and all seasons on my other vehicles. Carl 95 M3
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Tire Suggestion - from Raza Uddin
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:19:18 -0800 From: Raza Uddin <raza.uddin@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Tire Suggestion Just as a data point, I recently put on a set of Michelin PS2s and have been really impressed. I've loved all the Pilot products since the MXX3s, and didn't think street tires could get much better the the old Pilot Sports in terms of ride comfort, wear, and grip. I felt S03s had slightly more ultimate grip than the old Pilots, but they wore quickly and became very noisy as they wore. I switched to the PS2s for the rainy season and was very pleased with their traction in pretty bad downpour, better than just about every tire I've driven (old PSes, 712s, FM901s, MXX3s, S03s, and others). However, one thing I was surprised by was the softness of the sidewall. I thought it would lead to crappy handling, but surprising, at my last autocross, I was within tenths of guys who I was consistently 2-3 seconds behind (with me on my old Pilots and them on various r-comps) and very minimal rollover. I would rate them closer to the entry-level r-comps in terms of dry grip. All that, and my ride comfort has increased significantly. They are more expensive than F1s (by like $10), but I think they are worth it. Granted I've only driven someone else's car on the street with F1s and don't really have a complete view of the tire. But since you are looking for something cheap and wear well, I'd look to the Koreans. The last tire I liked for pure street performance was the 712 (I agree that 711s are crap). It was dirt cheap and offered decent dy traction and pretty good wet traction which was perfect for me. I'd try the new Ecsta SPT as they are just about $100 cheaper than a similar size PS2 or F1.. Drive Safely, Raza
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#7. FS: Track trailer - Trailex aluminum Tire Toter with extras - from Vern Anderson
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:05:13 -0800 (PST) From: Vern Anderson <vernon_anderson@yahoo.com> Subject: FS: Track trailer - Trailex aluminum Tire Toter with extras Trailex alumimum "Tire Toter", located in Tulsa OK 74037. I bought this new in 2000 and it has served me faithfully ever since. I've towed this thing behind my M3 to countless events, it's been rock solid and has never given me a problem. I finally have a tow vehicle and I'm buying a full-sized trailer, so this needs to go. It tows fine, even when loaded with 8 wheels and with the storage box full of brake rotors and tools. You hardly know it's back there when towing, it tracks fine, corners fine and never moves around. After I bought it, I added the second tire rack and the storage box. The box is just a pickup truck box, it locks and holds quite a bit of stuff. I also made a spare tire holder, nothing fancy, but it works. It has 12" wheels/tires, much better for highway driving than the little 8" ones. New from Trailex, this setup costs $1700-1800 (trailer is $1589 with two racks, the box is around $200). I'd like to get $750 for it. This thing is worlds better than the Harbor Freight trailers. It has safety cables, takes a 1 7/8" ball. The tire racks are completely adjustable, the biggest tire they can hold is a 255/40/17, anything bigger than that in diameter and you run out of room. You can easily fit four 245/40 or 255/40 tires on each rack, you may be able to get five narrower tires (215? 225?) on there, but I don't run those and haven't tried. The tires are new from earlier this year, I have repacked the wheel bearings every winter. The deck is wood, I treated it with outdoor sealant back in 2000, but haven't touched it since. The deck is still in pretty good shape. It has always been garaged. The race tires and wheels are obviously not included.... It cannot be shipped, but I'd be willing to share the delivery hassle with someone reasonably close. PM or email me if interested, I have pics available to email, thanks! Vern Anderson
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#8. Oil Distribution Block ? - from Tom Tice
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:29:06 -0500 From: "Tom Tice" <tetice@triad.rr.com> Subject: Oil Distribution Block ? I have a question on the JTD ODB. I have one on my '98 M3 and it works great. I would like to add gauges to a '93 325iS. I seem to remember someone mentioning that there is a problem with this on older E36s. Anyone know the details of this? Also I'd appreciate it if anyone has the BMW part number for the M5 (E34?) oil pressure sensor that fits this ODB. TIA, Tom Tice '98 M3/4 '93 325iS '98 328iC '2002 325iT/5 '2002 X5
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion - from Alain van der Heide
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:31:35 -0700 From: "Alain van der Heide" <ajvdh1@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Kleinpeter" <sak335@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 7:19 AM Subject: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion > Am I the only one that hates the Yokohama A032? These > are, IMVHO, the worst, suckiest R-compound tire > around. No, you're not alone. I went through one set, and my description was, "for a street tire, they make a pretty crappy track tire. And vice-versa." - Alain
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Oil Distribution Block ? - from Tom Tice
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:53:02 -0500 From: "Tom Tice" <tetice@triad.rr.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil Distribution Block ? After a bit of searching, I think I found the answer to my question. Apparently the older E36s do have a problem (I'd love to hear from anyone who has found otherwise) with the ODB. I believe the solution is to retrofit a later oil filter housing. Also my question regarding the M5 sender was a mistake, I meant an oil temp sender rather than oil pressure - so still looking for that part number. Tom Tice -----Original Message----- From: Tom Tice [mailto:tetice@triad.rr.com] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:30 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Oil Distribution Block ? Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:29:06 -0500 From: "Tom Tice" <tetice@triad.rr.com> Subject: Oil Distribution Block ? I have a question on the JTD ODB. I have one on my '98 M3 and it works great. I would like to add gauges to a '93 325iS. I seem to remember someone mentioning that there is a problem with this on older E36s. Anyone know the details of this? Also I'd appreciate it if anyone has the BMW part number for the M5 (E34?) oil pressure sensor that fits this ODB. TIA, Tom Tice '98 M3/4 '93 325iS '98 328iC '2002 325iT/5 '2002 X5