E36M3 #4591

Tuesday, December 13, 2005 13:59:38

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Trailing Arm Bushings (track) - from cteague@cox.net
#2. Re: [E36M3] Oil intake / HFM - from Chester Wong
#3. Re: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion - from Jamie Howton
#4. [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion - from Ahmad Lutfeali
#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion - from Raza Uddin
#6. Re: TIre Suggestion - from Steve Hazard
#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion - from Jim Bassett
#8. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Oil intake / HFM - from marco
#9. RE: Oil intake / HFM - from William Townsend
#10. Groove of doom - from Gary

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Trailing Arm Bushings (track) - from cteague@cox.net
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:09:51 -0500 From: <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Trailing Arm Bushings (track) Ahmad, I'm in the same situation as you. The problem with the rear trailing arm bushings is that they are multi-axis rotation. So they really need a ball joint. But I can't run metal bearings in my autox class. The delrin/poly style ones I would think would start binding up as they rotate. But I would like to find something that works well in that application. So far, it's factory rubber, with the GC inserts. Chris > > From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> > Date: 2005/12/13 Tue PM 01:59:30 EST > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: [E36M3] Trailing Arm Bushings (track) > > Folks, > > I have been using the stock 96+ RTAB with the GC inserts. I must say I am on > my 3rd set. After every 20~track days, they seem to give up on me. I have > been looking into a 'stronger set' (no solid ones in my class) and found 2 > options: > > 1) Polyurethane > 2) Delrin > > A) I know a few folks have used the Powerflex bushings. How long have you > had these? Any failures? > B) Any feedback on the Delrins? From what I have gathered, they work great > for the front control arm but should be avoided for RTAB. Anyone using these > want to shine some light on these?

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Oil intake / HFM - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:17:56 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Oil intake / HFM Does this car have a K&N or ITG type air filter? If so, you might be seeing the oil film coming off of that.. Chester --- RFKoby@aol.com wrote: > When the car is running, the seems to be a continuous oil vapor coming thru > > the larger of the 2 lines coming off of the valve cover. I pressure tested > to try to find obvious air leaks, but could not find any. Also, there are > no > oil leaks from the head and valve cover, so gasket seal is good.

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:33:33 -0600 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion > Heh, rolls of wet tissue paper would last longer than the Ecsta V700 > (don't get me started! :-)) I agree with you now (I think you tried to warn me off but I didn't listen). Huge chunks of rubber delaminated from the center of the tread on mine, it's kind of scary really. They stick pretty well though but at the cost of a ridiculously short life. -- Jamie Howton 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL

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#4. [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:33:22 -0500 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion Aha. Jim, you are not referring to the "Groove of Doom" now are you? LOL I never had any luck with Kumhos and will probably NEVER use them again (street or track). Ahmad -------------------- 5 -------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:36:41 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion On Tue, December 13, 2005 9:19 am, Jamie Howton said: > I used the soft compound on the track for about five track days toward > the end of this season. I actually liked them quite a lot. I went > through two sets of Kumho Ecsta V700 prior to that and the Yokohamas > were almost as sticky but lasted much longer (I wore out a set of > shaved Kumhos in one day at Blackhawk Farms). Heh, rolls of wet tissue paper would last longer than the Ecsta V700 (don't get me started! :-)) Jim Bassett

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion - from Raza Uddin
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:34:05 -0800 From: Raza Uddin <raza.uddin@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion On 12/13/05, Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > > Heh, rolls of wet tissue paper would last longer than the Ecsta V700 > (don't get me started! :-)) Me too- I have pictures to prove it! Drive Safely, Raza

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#6. Re: TIre Suggestion - from Steve Hazard
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:36:36 -0500 From: "Steve Hazard" <SHazard@nhboston.com> Subject: Re: TIre Suggestion I have a set of 285/30/18 Yoko A048's on my M3/4 for evaluation. They could not be mounted in time to test at the track this Fall, but I will certainly provide the list with some feedback by May of next year. I have no experience with the old A032's but have heard that they were not good DE tires. I have run a set of 235/40 RA1's and got 14 days out of them. I'm looking forward to seeing how my car handles on track with other M3's shod with the Toyo's in 06. If they perform it could be an alternative DE tire with sizes much more fitting to our cars. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=ADVA N+A048 They offer both 245/40 & 255/40 17's for our cars. Yes they are more expensive than the RA1's. The A048's also hum loudly on the street! They are OEM tires on the Lotus Elise. If anyone would like to see some pics of my car with the tires & rims shoot me an email off list. I can't wait till April! Steve Hazard -------------------- 1 -------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:16:41 -0800 (PST) From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: TIre Suggestion >Maybe I should just get a home equity loan, since money is relatively >"cheap" right now. Or maybe I should just quit buying all this cheap >stuff. >Anyhow, that's my longwinded way of saying I'd suggest >getting the A032Rs. Am I the only one that hates the Yokohama A032? These are, IMVHO, the worst, suckiest R-compound tire around. They howl worse than a basset does at the moon, they have next to no grip, and while they wear relatively well, the last half of the tread is uselessly hard. And don't even get me started about their rain performance. I've seen more wrecks in the wet by drivers running these things than any other tire. The false sense of security comes from the "agressive aqua tusk design" or whatever they call it, but anybody with a lick of sense would look at the tread/void ratio and realize their (low) potential as a rain tire. Buy Toyo RA-1's if you are considering a track tire in this class, they are the very best of the long wearing R-compound tires. The noise of A032's alone would keep me from running them on the street. And while I'm throwing cold water on everybody's suggestion, I'm going to suggest that running R compounds on the street isn't that great an idea. The tires pick up more stones and grit off the road and throw it off onto the paint on the rear bumper. So unless you run mud flaps (ha!), you'll sand-blast the rear bumper cover on the side of the car in fairly short order. Humbly, Shane K. '96 M3 '94 325i, #76 ITS/JP

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:42:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion On Tue, December 13, 2005 11:33 am, Jamie Howton said: > I agree with you now (I think you tried to warn me off but I didn't > listen). Sigh, I tried Jamie, I tried :-) > Huge chunks of rubber delaminated from the center of the > tread on mine, it's kind of scary really. Yep! I gotta say though, for an economical race tire, the Victoracer is not a bad choice. As if one could say "economical" and "race" in the same sentence :-) Jim Bassett

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#8. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Oil intake / HFM - from marco
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:42:53 -0800 From: "marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Oil intake / HFM That is very true - if over oiled you will have this problem. On another car where I saw a similar problem but first let me caveat this with 1) it was carbureted 2) it was a Toyota 3) it was built in 1972 was all the compression rings were broken. Lots of blowby was pressurizing the crankcase and oil was literally pooling in the air cleaner housing. If it's not what Chester says you may want to do a compression test and see if you have ring/valve guide problems. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Chester Wong [mailto:chester_p_wong@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:20 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Oil intake / HFM Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:17:56 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Oil intake / HFM Does this car have a K&N or ITG type air filter? If so, you might be seeing the oil film coming off of that.. Chester --- RFKoby@aol.com wrote: > When the car is running, the seems to be a continuous oil vapor coming thru > > the larger of the 2 lines coming off of the valve cover. I pressure tested > to try to find obvious air leaks, but could not find any. Also, there are > no > oil leaks from the head and valve cover, so gasket seal is good. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#9. RE: Oil intake / HFM - from William Townsend
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:46:44 -0500 From: "William Townsend" <wtownsend@juniper.net> Subject: RE: Oil intake / HFM I have not had this problem before so others chime in but.... There is a cyclone oil separator under the intake manifold that is supposed to prevent the oil from coming along with the crank case vapors on their way to the intake. My guess that that part is bad or something that enables it is bad. I did not know it was there till I did my head gasket. That is about all I know of that thing, hope it helps. --Bill 96 M3 red 97 328i white

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#10. Groove of doom - from Gary
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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:50:15 -0600 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Groove of doom Me three...TWO days and they were coming apart! And they would not warrantee them! I have pictures too... Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:33:33 -0600 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: TIre Suggestion > Heh, rolls of wet tissue paper would last longer than the Ecsta V700 > (don't get me started! :-)) I agree with you now (I think you tried to warn me off but I didn't listen). Huge chunks of rubber delaminated from the center of the tread on mine, it's kind of scary really. They stick pretty well though but at the cost of a ridiculously short life. -- Jamie Howton 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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