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#1. Re: [E36M3] Groove of doom - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:23:06 -0600 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Groove of doom On 12/14/05, Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> wrote: > which yok? A032 Soft compound. -- Jamie Howton 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL
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#2. Re: Re: [E36M3] RE: Oil intake / HFM - from Gerry Low
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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 7:58:15 -0500 From: Gerry Low <gerry@parallel-mkt.com> Subject: Re: Re: [E36M3] RE: Oil intake / HFM Reduced emmissions is the reason for connecting the oil separator to the plenum. Venting to the plenum should not be much of an issue for a properly functioning engine. A must for street cars that are checked by local government authorities. My M was plagued with the oil vapor in the intake problem for a long time. At one time, had 3 oil separators in series to try to beat the problem. Finally did the leak down test. Result of 16% revealed a problem. Changed the valve seals and had little to no effect. Tear down last winter found 4 broken land rings. Changed the pistons and rings and all is well again. Gerry > > From: Jack - Elephant Motorsports <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> > Date: 2005/12/13 Tue PM 03:49:29 EST > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Oil intake / HFM > > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:44:46 -0500 > From: Jack - Elephant Motorsports <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Oil intake / HFM > > This would be my thought as well - the oil separator. On my E30 M3 I > bypassed this and plugged the plenum, the separator gets vented to > atmostphere (or catch can if appropriate, I never needed it). Why would you > want oil vaper in the air coming into your plenum and reducing it's > cleanliness? Now for a race motor this is obvious to undo this > "feature" for track/street not so. But again, this is what I would check. > I find it interesting that so many people keep the crank case vent routed to > the plenum...dirty air. > > Jack Money > Elephant Motorsports > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > > On 12/13/05, William Townsend <wtownsend@juniper.net> wrote: > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:46:44 -0500 > > From: "William Townsend" <wtownsend@juniper.net> > > Subject: RE: Oil intake / HFM > > > > I have not had this problem before so others chime in but.... There is a > > cyclone oil separator under the intake manifold that is supposed to > > prevent the oil from coming along with the crank case vapors on their > > way to the intake. My guess that that part is bad or something that > > enables it is bad. I did not know it was there till I did my head > > gasket. That is about all I know of that thing, hope it helps. > > > > > > > > --Bill > > > > 96 M3 red > > > > 97 328i white > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#3. Stock Class Camber plates (was Re: tires) - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:27:28 -0500 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Stock Class Camber plates (was Re: tires) Mo, In I Stock (BMWCCA), you cannot put in an adjustable camber plate. Someone on this list makes a fixed one (3 different settings) I forgot who it was. Anyone out there with some leads? Thanks, Ahmad PS: You should consider putting the interior back in your car and join me in I Stock. It gets lonely at the top you know ;) -------------------- 2 -------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:24:22 -0500 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: RE: TIre Suggestion Ahmad, Hello! Another thought. You may consider buying a set of camber plates, and adjusting the camber out for the street.. It will probably allow you to keep the street tires alive longer.. Be well! Mo
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#4. Re: Re: [E36M3] RE: Oil intake / HFM - from Jack - Elephant Motorsports
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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:40:09 -0500 From: Jack - Elephant Motorsports <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> Subject: Re: Re: [E36M3] RE: Oil intake / HFM Well yes, I actually know that it's for emissions, that was sorta rhetorical. I was speaking from a race car perspective. If you're running a stock engine with little mods then it probably shouldn't matter but in most cases, even stock, I'd plug the plenum and remove that dirty air. Why risk it? Jack Money Elephant Motorsports http://www.elephantmotorsports.com On 12/14/05, Gerry Low <gerry@parallel-mkt.com> wrote: > > Reduced emmissions is the reason for connecting the oil separator to the > plenum. Venting to the plenum should not be much of an issue for a properly > functioning engine. A must for street cars that are checked by local > government authorities. > > My M was plagued with the oil vapor in the intake problem for a long > time. At one time, had 3 oil separators in series to try to beat the > problem. Finally did the leak down test. Result of 16% revealed a > problem. Changed the valve seals and had little to no effect. Tear down > last winter found 4 broken land rings. Changed the pistons and rings and > all is well again. > Gerry > > > > From: Jack - Elephant Motorsports <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> > > Date: 2005/12/13 Tue PM 03:49:29 EST > > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Oil intake / HFM > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:44:46 -0500 > > From: Jack - Elephant Motorsports <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Oil intake / HFM > > > > This would be my thought as well - the oil separator. On my E30 M3 I > > bypassed this and plugged the plenum, the separator gets vented to > > atmostphere (or catch can if appropriate, I never needed it). Why would > you > > want oil vaper in the air coming into your plenum and reducing it's > > cleanliness? Now for a race motor this is obvious to undo this > > "feature" for track/street not so. But again, this is what I would > check. > > I find it interesting that so many people keep the crank case vent > routed to > > the plenum...dirty air. > > > > Jack Money > > Elephant Motorsports > > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > > > > > On 12/13/05, William Townsend <wtownsend@juniper.net> wrote: > > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:46:44 -0500 > > > From: "William Townsend" <wtownsend@juniper.net> > > > Subject: RE: Oil intake / HFM > > > > > > I have not had this problem before so others chime in but.... There is > a > > > cyclone oil separator under the intake manifold that is supposed to > > > prevent the oil from coming along with the crank case vapors on their > > > way to the intake. My guess that that part is bad or something that > > > enables it is bad. I did not know it was there till I did my head > > > gasket. That is about all I know of that thing, hope it helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Bill > > > > > > 96 M3 red > > > > > > 97 328i white > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > > > > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > > > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > ************************************************* > > > > > >
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#5. RE: Oil intake / HFM - from ROWERS41@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:49:49 EST From: ROWERS41@aol.com Subject: RE: Oil intake / HFM Group, I have a US S32 converted to OBDI and my oil consuption is about 1qt every 1-2000 miles. Yes there is a minor seep around the rear seal, but no puddling of oil under the car. During the convertion process, the cyclone oil seperator was not included, but just a straight tube to the dipstick connection was installed. Would adding this seperator resolve some of my oil consumption issue? Should I look somewhere else? Thanks, Steve Fredericksburg, Va In a message dated 12/13/2005 3:12:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, e36m3@bmw-m.net writes: Subject: RE: Oil intake / HFM I have not had this problem before so others chime in but.... There is a cyclone oil separator under the intake manifold that is supposed to prevent the oil from coming along with the crank case vapors on their way to the intake. My guess that that part is bad or something that enables it is bad. I did not know it was there till I did my head gasket. That is about all I know of that thing, hope it helps. --Bill
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Stock Class Camber plates (was Re: tires) - from Jay Hudson
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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:54:08 -0800 From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stock Class Camber plates (was Re: tires) Might be Motorforce. Jay > Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:27:28 -0500 > From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> > Subject: Stock Class Camber plates (was Re: tires) > > > Mo, > > In I Stock (BMWCCA), you cannot put in an adjustable camber plate. Someone > on this list makes a fixed one (3 different settings) I forgot who it was. > Anyone out there with some leads? > > Thanks, > > Ahmad > > PS: You should consider putting the interior back in your car and join me > in > I Stock. It gets lonely at the top you know ;) > > -------------------- 2 -------------------- > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:24:22 -0500 > From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> > Subject: RE: TIre Suggestion > > Ahmad, > > Hello! Another thought. You may consider buying a set of camber > plates, and adjusting the camber out for the street.. It will probably > allow you to keep the street tires alive longer.. > > Be well! > Mo >
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#7. RE: Digest search function down - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:55:15 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Digest search function down Raza - I find I have better luck finding 'stuff' by 'GOOGLING'. I use "BMW-M" and "my subject" KLBurgess -------------------- 6 -------------------- From: Raza Uddin <raza.uddin@gmail.com> Subject: Digest search function down I just noticed that search function is down. Everytime I submit a query, I get a "File . Unspecified error." Anyone else have this problem or is it me? I'd like to search a problem before I ask for help with it. Thanks! Drive Safely, Raza
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Stock Class Camber plates (was Re: tires) - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:04:59 -0500 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stock Class Camber plates (was Re: tires) >Might be Motorforce. >Jay Actually it's Bob Kobayashi. rfkoby@ something or other. (use the search function) :-D -Carlos 98 M3
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Stock Class Camber plates (was Re: tires) - from Jay Hudson
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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:08:32 -0800 From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stock Class Camber plates (was Re: tires) I may have seen them in the back of Roundel. Jay > Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:54:08 -0800 > From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stock Class Camber plates (was Re: tires) > > Might be Motorforce. > > Jay >
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#10. RE: [e36m3] Re: Re: [E36M3] RE: Oil intake / HFM - from marco
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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:32:11 -0800 From: "marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: Re: [E36M3] RE: Oil intake / HFM so I guess old toyota and BMW engines have few things in common ;-) Marco the toyota was my first engine rebuild at 12 years old -----Original Message----- From: Gerry Low [mailto:gerry@parallel-mkt.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:59 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] Re: Re: [E36M3] RE: Oil intake / HFM Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 7:58:15 -0500 From: Gerry Low <gerry@parallel-mkt.com> Subject: Re: Re: [E36M3] RE: Oil intake / HFM Reduced emmissions is the reason for connecting the oil separator to the plenum. Venting to the plenum should not be much of an issue for a properly functioning engine. A must for street cars that are checked by local government authorities. My M was plagued with the oil vapor in the intake problem for a long time. At one time, had 3 oil separators in series to try to beat the problem. Finally did the leak down test. Result of 16% revealed a problem. Changed the valve seals and had little to no effect. Tear down last winter found 4 broken land rings. Changed the pistons and rings and all is well again. Gerry > > From: Jack - Elephant Motorsports <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> > Date: 2005/12/13 Tue PM 03:49:29 EST > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Oil intake / HFM > > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:44:46 -0500 > From: Jack - Elephant Motorsports <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Oil intake / HFM > > This would be my thought as well - the oil separator. On my E30 M3 I > bypassed this and plugged the plenum, the separator gets vented to > atmostphere (or catch can if appropriate, I never needed it). Why would you > want oil vaper in the air coming into your plenum and reducing it's > cleanliness? Now for a race motor this is obvious to undo this > "feature" for track/street not so. But again, this is what I would check. > I find it interesting that so many people keep the crank case vent routed to > the plenum...dirty air. > > Jack Money > Elephant Motorsports > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > > On 12/13/05, William Townsend <wtownsend@juniper.net> wrote: > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:46:44 -0500 > > From: "William Townsend" <wtownsend@juniper.net> > > Subject: RE: Oil intake / HFM > > > > I have not had this problem before so others chime in but.... There is a > > cyclone oil separator under the intake manifold that is supposed to > > prevent the oil from coming along with the crank case vapors on their > > way to the intake. My guess that that part is bad or something that > > enables it is bad. I did not know it was there till I did my head > > gasket. That is about all I know of that thing, hope it helps. > > > > > > > > --Bill > > > > 96 M3 red > > > > 97 328i white > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************