E36M3 #4606

Tuesday, January 03, 2006 18:58:58

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#1. RE: seats? - from Ahmad Lutfeali
#2. Re: [E36M3] Want to move to recaros - from Marc Plante
#3. Happy New Year - from Chip E.
#4. Possible stuck brake caliper question - from Michael Michalski
#5. Re: [E36M3] Possible stuck brake caliper question - from Jamie Howton
#6. RE: [E36M3] Possible stuck brake caliper question - from Patrick Goss - PA
#7. FS: 2001 Audi S4 Avant (wagon) - from docwyte@comcast.net
#8. Seats? - from dhogg
#9. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Seats? - from marco
#10. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Seats? - from Jim Bassett
#11. Re: Seats - from dhogg

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#1. RE: seats? - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:38:39 -0500 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: seats? Stan, You will be in I stock and not H stock :) I have a pair of Sparco 2000s in my I Stock car. This is not my daily driver but I do drive it (occasionally) to work, play, to the track and back. So in essence its an occasional track/race car. I went to a local speed shop and sat on a bunch of seats. You may want to go to either Sparco and/or Recaro's site and print out their spec sheet on the seats. Since I am 6'4" 205lbs with a 33inch waist, those seats worked out best for me giving me room on the shoulders and thigh area. Bernardo Payet who is also my weight but 3 inches taller seems to like the Pro 2000 (as far as the fit is concerned) as well. This is the padding I am using on the cage: http://www.ioportracing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=R BPPro&Category_Code=RBCA Do you have the suspension setup sorted out? A.L. -------------------- 4 -------------------- Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 12:00:26 -0500 From: "Stan Shaw" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: Seats? I have been considering (for years) to race my '96 M3 in H stock BMWCCA racing. I have an Autopower rollcage ready to bolt in, I know it is not the best solution but .... Anyways, with regard to seats, is anyone out there using there M3 as a occasional street car and track/race car? If so, what seats are you using? Are you switching back and forth from race to stock seats when not racing the car? And yes, I know having a roll cage in a street car is not a good idea, but since BMWCCA requires a cage and I don't think I am ready to forgo it's use on the street yet. Idle thoughts.... Regards, Stan Shaw Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 Excell.Net Owner/Operator http://www.Excell.Net/ 928 Owners Club President http://www.928OC.org/ 928Racing.net Team Member http://www.928Racing.net/ "Liberty once lost is lost forever." - John Adams

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Want to move to recaros - from Marc Plante
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:29:35 -0500 From: Marc Plante <marcva@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Want to move to recaros I have a pair of SRDs in my 1998 M3. there was not a driver side sensor since it would be tough for the car to be in operation without a driver. The Passenger side sensor deploys the airbag if someone is in that side of the car (AFAIK). I actually opened up the bottom of the stock passenger seat and carefully pulled out the airbag sensor. You have to loosen a series of allen screws on the bottom of the stock seat to get the cushion lifted away from the base, then slide your fingers in and pry the sensor off the underlying plastic base. The sensor is the consistency of a kid's laminated placemat, so it's fairly rigid and resonably durable. It's held in place with a little contact cement, but you can work it loose with your fingers or a plastic spatula-like device. You then need to cut a couple zip ties to get the wiring harness out of the seat (just push in the cushion though the occasional available holes to help free it, and you're done. If you want, you can also buy a new sensor for something like $100. I then put it in the seat bottom of the passenger SRD. The SRD bottom cushion is actually just hooked onto the seat, so it is very easy to lift to place the sensor underneath. I have passengers in my car maybe 10-12 times a year, (I use the family wagon for any passengers, esp since wife hates riding in the M3 these days) so wear is not a concern with the mat. I will probably look for a rigid board to put under the mat to eliminate any flex that might fatigue the plastic. Marc Plante 1997 E36 M3/4 68k 2005 Child (HATES riding in cars ?!) Vienna, VA

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#3. Happy New Year - from Chip E.
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 09:30:57 -0800 (PST) From: "Chip E." <chip4bmw@yahoo.com> Subject: Happy New Year Happy New Year Just making sure this list still exists. - Chip Eberhart - 98 M3/4/5

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#4. Possible stuck brake caliper question - from Michael Michalski
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:56:11 -0600 From: "Michael Michalski" <m.michalski@comcast.net> Subject: Possible stuck brake caliper question Hi Guys, Hope you are all having a better start to the New Year than I. Need to ask you a quick question. Just dropped of my car at the dealership (yea I know, I did not want to do it but had no other choice). The reason it's there to make a long story short is that the car felt like something was holding it back. I can't really think of another way to describe it. When the car was out of gear and in neutral it would not coast freely. I was not sure what it was. In addition to that, the longer the car was driven the worse it became, with occassional vibration in the steering wheel. Explained all this to the service advisor and he said it sounds like a stuck caliper. They are looking at it now to try and determine what it is. Has anyone else out there had a similar issue, and if so what kind of damage ($$$) am I looking at? Thanks in advance. Michael Michalski 97 ///M3 Windy City BMW Club

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Possible stuck brake caliper question - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:08:14 -0600 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Possible stuck brake caliper question I had a brake caliper that "got stuck" on my M5. What happened was that the outer dust boot came loose and allowed the caliper piston to rust pretty badly. It cost me $380 for a new caliper (the piston is not available separately) and I installed it myself. In retrospect I should have just taken it to the dealer since my car is CPO'd but I discovered in the middle of a brake pad change and I had already forced the piston into the caliper to the point that it wasn't coming out again. Regards -- Jamie Howton 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL

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#6. RE: [E36M3] Possible stuck brake caliper question - from Patrick Goss - PA
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:24:24 -0600 From: "Patrick Goss - PA" <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Possible stuck brake caliper question One of my fronts stuck briefly and then freed up. Hasn't happened since, but was noticeable enough that it felt like you described. Car being held back, no coasting at graded stops, yadda yadda. I often wonder if the pins get sticky too...causing the same situation. Shouldn't cause much damage other than wearing out what is already likely needing replaced due to condition (pads,caliper, maybe rotor). Patrick Goss 97 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Michael Michalski [mailto:m.michalski@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 12:59 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Possible stuck brake caliper question Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:56:11 -0600 From: "Michael Michalski" <m.michalski@comcast.net> Subject: Possible stuck brake caliper question Hi Guys, Hope you are all having a better start to the New Year than I. Need to ask you a quick question. Just dropped of my car at the dealership (yea I know, I did not want to do it but had no other choice). The reason it's there to make a long story short is that the car felt like something was holding it back. I can't really think of another way to describe it. When the car was out of gear and in neutral it would not coast freely. I was not sure what it was. In addition to that, the longer the car was driven the worse it became, with occassional vibration in the steering wheel. Explained all this to the service advisor and he said it sounds like a stuck caliper. They are looking at it now to try and determine what it is. Has anyone else out there had a similar issue, and if so what kind of damage ($$$) am I looking at? Thanks in advance. Michael Michalski 97 ///M3 Windy City BMW Club ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#7. FS: 2001 Audi S4 Avant (wagon) - from docwyte@comcast.net
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Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 20:14:41 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: FS: 2001 Audi S4 Avant (wagon) 2001 Audi S4 Avant (wagon), Stage 2 350hp Black with black leather seats 6 speed manual tranny No accidents Tinted windows Clear bra All options but Nav and the alcantara interior 68k miles Timing belt/water pump, tensioners/rollers done Turbos replaced by dealer at 48k miles All records since new. GIAC Chip Downpipes Neuspeed 3" exhaust H&R Coilovers Neuspeed 22mm rear swaybar Short Shifter RS4 rear wing Pics at www.putfile.com/docwyte I've owned this about a year, I'm looking to get a larger car as my daily driver since I have a dedicated fun/track car now. This car stock is NADA booking at $23k, I'm asking $24k for it as equipped on the forums, I'll sell it to a list member for $22k. I also have other parts available should the buyer want them (Stoptechs, etc, etc) at an additional (good deal) cost. -josh

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#8. Seats? - from dhogg
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:24:36 -0500 From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> Subject: Seats? Stan, I drive my I-Stock M3 to and from the track and shop. It has a TC Kline cage with the appropriate SFI padding. The way my seat is set up, there would have to be a pretty violent collision for my head to hit the cage hard on the street, unless I got hit from the side. A side hit even in a stock M3 would not be pretty. Before the padding went in, it was much scarier. I exercise extra caution when in the car helmet-less. I would never use it as a daily driver, but I have used it to get groceries a few times. And yes, I'll have to get the cage welded in for 2007. Dave Hogg

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#9. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Seats? - from marco
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:30:50 -0800 From: "marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Seats? Actually the way I read the rules is bolted cages will be grandfathered. No new log books issued to cars with bolted cages in 2007. Marco -----Original Message----- From: dhogg [mailto:dhogg@suscom.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 4:29 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] Seats? Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:24:36 -0500 From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> Subject: Seats? Stan, I drive my I-Stock M3 to and from the track and shop. It has a TC Kline cage with the appropriate SFI padding. The way my seat is set up, there would have to be a pretty violent collision for my head to hit the cage hard on the street, unless I got hit from the side. A side hit even in a stock M3 would not be pretty. Before the padding went in, it was much scarier. I exercise extra caution when in the car helmet-less. I would never use it as a daily driver, but I have used it to get groceries a few times. And yes, I'll have to get the cage welded in for 2007. Dave Hogg ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#10. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Seats? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:53:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Seats? On Tue, January 3, 2006 4:38 pm, marco said: > Actually the way I read the rules is bolted cages will be grandfathered. > No > new log books issued to cars with bolted cages in 2007. Correct. They made it even clearer in the Final rules. No *new* car with bolt-in cages. As long as you meet the 2005 rules with your existing cage, you are grandfathered. Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP - with bolt-in that really should be changed to weld-in, but doesn't HAVE to be

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#11. Re:  Seats - from dhogg
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:54:00 -0500 From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> Subject: Re: Seats Stan, I forgot about the seat issue. I have the Vader passenger seat in the car but the driver's seat is a Recaro Profi XL (from HMS - BMW Club Racing sponsor and good folks). It's very hard to find a racing seat to fit into the allowed space in the stock E36 with stock door hardware and a cage. I had to return one or two others to HMS - with no hassles - because they wouldn't fit. This seat just barely fit using the VAC mounts with minor Dremel cutting blade adjustment of the left side bottom bolster to clear the cage. (I checked with Recaro and they permit pretty major adjustments - the only way to fit a seat into a Viper - of these lower bolsters without affecting the safety rating. Even got it in writing.) It puts the belts in the right position for my 6' 2.5" 210 lb frame with HANS, and brings my head down enough that I'm getting protection from the cage. The prior owner was a properly-sized female who used a Recaro Pole Position with the TC Kline mounts. This setup (for sale cheap for a smaller person!) put my head above the top of the cage, the belts entered below my shoulders and it was REALLY tight on my rear. Not good. The Profi XL is a very comfortable seat that I've driven non-stop for 6 hours (to VIR) with no problem. Dave Hogg #20 IS

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