E36M3 #4631

Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:13:33

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#1. Cheap ITS/JP Racecar FS - $16k - from James Clay
#2. FS: My Fikse FM/5's - from Ty Vilhauer
#3. WTB: stockish E36 M3 wheels - from Ty Vilhauer
#4. RE: Suspension Upgrade - from Ahmad Lutfeali
#5. Re: [E36M3] obx headers - from Gary
#6. [E36M3] SMG Help - from Ricardo A. Mayer
#7. Re: [E36M3] obx headers - from Jason Knight
#8. RE: [E36M3] SMG Help - from Patrick Goss - PA
#9. Re: [e36m3] [E36M3] RE: Suspension Upgrade - from Jamie Howton
#10. Re: [E36M3] SMG Help - from Jay Hudson

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#1. Cheap ITS/JP Racecar FS - $16k - from James Clay
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Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:59:35 -0500 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: Cheap ITS/JP Racecar FS - $16k From a customer getting into Prod class - before the SIR deal. This one is solid, built engine and spare, solid and fully sorted - less than half of what we would charge to build a similar one. Paint would make it pretty, no big hits. Email if interested. James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com http://www.bimmerworldracing.com http://www.powerflexusa.com Engineered BMW Performance 877.639.9648

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#2. FS: My Fikse FM/5's - from Ty Vilhauer
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Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:48:17 -0700 From: "Ty Vilhauer" <quest@pacifier.com> Subject: FS: My Fikse FM/5's http://bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=473345 Thanks, Ty

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#3. WTB: stockish E36 M3 wheels - from Ty Vilhauer
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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 03:34:05 -0700 From: "Ty Vilhauer" <quest@pacifier.com> Subject: WTB: stockish E36 M3 wheels Well I obviously need something to replace the Fikse's I sent the email out about earlier so: I'm going to need a stock set of wheels to sell my car with. I know somebody has a set laying around they aren't using with tires, they don't have to be perfect although cheap and presentable are what I'm going for. Need a price shipped to 85283, have cash in hand. Thanks Ty 360-907-5999

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#4. RE: Suspension Upgrade - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:41:33 -0500 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Suspension Upgrade Marco, You are dead on. Kurt, 1) Shims, install is super easy. There are two bolts on each side of the strut (bottom) which holds them to the hub. Think of it as a triangle with one bolt on the top and two at the bottom next to each other. With the shim kit, all you need to do is loosen the top strut bolt and remove the bottom two bolts. Now imagine applying pressure at the bottom end without the 2 bolts in place and you can visually see that the hub with the entire brake assembly will move inward with pressure. The shim kit comes with different spacers which you will be packing in between the newer longer bolts. From my experience: each 1mm spacer between the bolt will yield -.07 degrees of camber. My car came with -.05 camber each side so I had to throw in 4mm spacer/washer to get to the desired camber. Install: very easy. Took me 30 mins per side. Drawback: less clearance at the top of the strut. I ran 235/40/17 on a 8 inch wide wheel without any issue. If you are running anything more than that, you would need spacer (I got a 10mm spacer from Rogue). 2) Strut swap. You can get these from www.strictly-german.com Talk to Bobby Thrash. You can get them used from him for 1/3 of what they would cost new and they are in mint shape. To install these, you would need to remove the entire strut assembly and then throw in the spring compressor, unbolt the nut at the top of the strut.... Install: PITA. I went with this route during new suspension install. Drawback: Static camber. I was lucky I got just around -3.5 anything less, than I could have tuned it with the shim kit. Anything more, then you are out of luck. In your case, since you already have the suspension in place. Get the shim kit. Cost and time effective solution in my opinion. And no you don't need both of the above kits. Either one is fine unless you are way short on the strut swap and need to add some more camber (highly unlikely but possible). Hope this helps. Ahmad From: "marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] RE: Suspension Upgrade only problem with the shims is that they work by slightly changing the angle of the wheel to the strut. So if you have close clearances at the top inside of the tire and the strut tower now you'll have big problems post shim. BTDT. Marco -----Original Message----- From: kresener@aol.com [mailto:kresener@aol.com] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 6:53 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] RE: Suspension Upgrade Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:49:46 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: RE: Suspension Upgrade Thanks for all of the answers and suggestions, and of course, they've prompted a couple more questions. Couple of suggestions on switching the hats, my belief up to now is that's only possible on the '96+ cars. Couple other suggestions on the Bimmerworld camber adjusting bolts and shims, which sound great, and especially for $25! They're out of stock until later this week, but that sounds like the ticket since the car sees relatively few street miles and is towed for the long distances to the track. I'll be ordering a set shortly. Anyone speak to the difficulty of installing them? Would I gain anything more if I combined the camber bolts and shims along with a used set of '96+ hats? As for my driving style, and possibly going a bit slower into the corners and getting on the gas earlier... I have been accused of being a bit ham fisted in my driving style occasionally! But seriously, whenever I try that I get so pissed out how long it takes to accelerate back up in whatever gear I start to fantasize about forced induction and mucho increased horsepower.... Camber and sway bars are a lot cheaper than going that route! Thanks for all of the suggestions, the list rocks! Kurt Resener Louisville, KY ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#5. Re: [E36M3] obx headers - from Gary
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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:59:02 -0600 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] obx headers Two words... Dyno check. Do a before and after dyno pull, probably be worth finding out if they actually work. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "tim g" <shaggy62832003@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 6:53 PM Subject: [E36M3] obx headers > Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:47:57 -0800 (PST) > From: tim g <shaggy62832003@yahoo.com> > Subject: obx headers > > i recently purchased a set of headers for my 97' 328i.. i figured i would > see if i could save a little money on them so i bought them from > ssautochrome on ebay for 250. ooops. the headers don't look any larger > than my stock ones. collector seems to be slightly smoother flowing.has > anyone heard anything about "obx" headers. does anyone know if i should > bother wasting my time installing em. if i am going to do it i will > probably end up doing it by next week... > Thanks .....Tim > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on > new and used cars. > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#6. [E36M3] SMG Help - from Ricardo A. Mayer
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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:01:11 -0200 From: "Ricardo A. Mayer" <ramayer@terra.com.br> Subject: [E36M3] SMG Help Higroup, Few days ago I sent the email below requesting technical support help. Since I have not received any reply I am sending it again. I really appreciate if someone, perhaps from Europe, could help me with his experience on SMG. Thanks a lot. Best regards, Ricardo Mayer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo A. Mayer" <ramayer@terra.com.br> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: [E36M3] SMG Help > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:29:00 -0200 > From: "Ricardo A. Mayer" <ramayer@terra.com.br> > Subject: [E36M3] SMG Help > > Hi group, > I live in Brazil and I have a1998 E36 M3 european SMG model. > It has less than 30.000km, however, for the second time I have to replace > the SMG pump (+$2,000.00), and as I investigated, this problem has ocurred > with most SMG M3's in Brazil. > When this problem occurs, you have to tow the vehicle because the > emergency procedure described on the manual does not work. > For this reason, I am thinking on converting my car from SMG to manual. > My mechanic verified that all mechanic modifications are easy to do and it > will be an original manual model. However, I am concerned with the DME > that might have to be re-programmed. > Does anybody has had any experience with a transformation from SMG to > manual, or that is knowlegeable about this issue that could help me. > Thanks a lot. > Regards, > Ricardo Mayer > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido Terra. > Scan engine: McAfee VirusScan / Atualizado em 26/01/2006 / Versão: > 4.4.00/4683 > Proteja o seu e-mail Terra: http://mail.terra.com.br/ > >

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#7. Re: [E36M3] obx headers - from Jason Knight
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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 07:15:20 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] obx headers It's probably cheaper to do some Internet research before spending the time and money to see what the before and after numbers are. In the event that he decides to spend his time and money to blaze a new trail, the before and after data would be nice. Jason --- Gary <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:59:02 -0600 > From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] obx headers > > Two words... > > Dyno check. > > Do a before and after dyno pull, probably be worth > finding out if they > actually work. > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tim g" <shaggy62832003@yahoo.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 6:53 PM > Subject: [E36M3] obx headers > > > > Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:47:57 -0800 (PST) > > From: tim g <shaggy62832003@yahoo.com> > > Subject: obx headers > > > > i recently purchased a set of headers for my 97' > 328i.. i figured i would > > see if i could save a little money on them so i > bought them from > > ssautochrome on ebay for 250. ooops. the headers > don't look any larger > > than my stock ones. collector seems to be slightly > smoother flowing.has > > anyone heard anything about "obx" headers. does > anyone know if i should > > bother wasting my time installing em. if i am > going to do it i will > > probably end up doing it by next week... > > Thanks .....Tim > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get > pricing, reviews, & more on > > new and used cars. > > > > ************************************************* > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#8. RE: [E36M3] SMG Help - from Patrick Goss - PA
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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:28:08 -0600 From: "Patrick Goss - PA" <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] SMG Help Ricardo, I was hoping you'd get a reply too, as I find your question of particular interest as well. Heck I admit I didn't even know you could get the E36 with a SMG in Europe, I thought only the 6 speed, but I've only been in the e36M3 world for 2 years and certainly not an expert. Many members here are veterans, but maybe they aren't familiar with your question. It happens rarely, but it does happen. Your experience is that this is mostly a US list as far as I know. It would be interesting to see if we actually have some list members from overseas, not sure we have many if at all, we might have some transplants thou. Some of us are lucky enough to pirate parts from your euro vehicles and enjoy them, but besides that, we rely on more your first hand experience more than our 2nd hand experience. Hopefully someone will help you out, maybe from this list, maybe elsewhere. Regardless, keep us posted, as I'm sure we'd find the information of value as well. Thanks, Patrick Goss 97 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Ricardo A. Mayer [mailto:ramayer@terra.com.br] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:13 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] SMG Help Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:01:11 -0200 From: "Ricardo A. Mayer" <ramayer@terra.com.br> Subject: [E36M3] SMG Help Higroup, Few days ago I sent the email below requesting technical support help. Since I have not received any reply I am sending it again. I really appreciate if someone, perhaps from Europe, could help me with his experience on SMG. Thanks a lot. Best regards, Ricardo Mayer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo A. Mayer" <ramayer@terra.com.br> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: [E36M3] SMG Help > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:29:00 -0200 > From: "Ricardo A. Mayer" <ramayer@terra.com.br> > Subject: [E36M3] SMG Help > > Hi group, > I live in Brazil and I have a1998 E36 M3 european SMG model. > It has less than 30.000km, however, for the second time I have to replace > the SMG pump (+$2,000.00), and as I investigated, this problem has ocurred > with most SMG M3's in Brazil. > When this problem occurs, you have to tow the vehicle because the > emergency procedure described on the manual does not work. > For this reason, I am thinking on converting my car from SMG to manual. > My mechanic verified that all mechanic modifications are easy to do and it > will be an original manual model. However, I am concerned with the DME > that might have to be re-programmed. > Does anybody has had any experience with a transformation from SMG to > manual, or that is knowlegeable about this issue that could help me. > Thanks a lot. > Regards, > Ricardo Mayer > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido Terra. > Scan engine: McAfee VirusScan / Atualizado em 26/01/2006 / Versão: > 4.4.00/4683 > Proteja o seu e-mail Terra: http://mail.terra.com.br/ > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#9. Re: [e36m3] [E36M3] RE: Suspension Upgrade - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:25:52 -0600 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [e36m3] [E36M3] RE: Suspension Upgrade On 1/30/06, marco <m3driver@iname.com> wrote: > only problem with the shims is that they work by slightly changing the angle > of the wheel to the strut. So if you have close clearances at the top > inside of the tire and the strut tower now you'll have big problems post > shim. Yep, FWIW, I am just about to remove the shims and go with camber plates (probably Bimmerworld). The problem is that with Kosei K1s, I have less than 1mm of clearance between the top of the wheel and the strut housing. I want to run a wider tire than the 235s I have on there now and there's no way they will fit without major rubbing. I did try the Rogue spacers but they caused the lugbolts and later wheel studs to snap repeatedly with the Kosei wheels. If anyone wants a shim kit with the longer bolts, I'll have it available for cheap in a couple of weeks. Regards -- Jamie Howton 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL

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#10. Re: [E36M3] SMG Help - from Jay Hudson
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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 08:09:35 -0800 From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] SMG Help Ricardo - Try asking for help on www.bimmerforums.com There's a specific E36M3 forum and BMW Maintainence forum. I also know one of the moderators of the E36M3 Forum (daved) has an E36M3 and is from Argentina. Not Brazil, but closer than us :-) I've also seeen members post from Europe. Good luck - Jay > > >> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:29:00 -0200 >> From: "Ricardo A. Mayer" <ramayer@terra.com.br> >> Subject: [E36M3] SMG Help >> >> Hi group, >> I live in Brazil and I have a1998 E36 M3 european SMG model. >> It has less than 30.000km, however, for the second time I have to replace >> the SMG pump (+$2,000.00), and as I investigated, this problem has >> ocurred >> with most SMG M3's in Brazil. >> When this problem occurs, you have to tow the vehicle because the >> emergency procedure described on the manual does not work. >> For this reason, I am thinking on converting my car from SMG to manual. >> My mechanic verified that all mechanic modifications are easy to do and >> it >> will be an original manual model. However, I am concerned with the DME >> that might have to be re-programmed. >> Does anybody has had any experience with a transformation from SMG to >> manual, or that is knowlegeable about this issue that could help me. >> Thanks a lot. >> Regards, >> Ricardo Mayer >>

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