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#1. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] CEL at WOT - from marco
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 13:12:39 -0800 From: "marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] CEL at WOT mods? OBD I or OBD II? Marco -----Original Message----- From: kresener@aol.com [mailto:kresener@aol.com] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 12:26 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] CEL at WOT Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 15:24:35 -0500 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: CEL at WOT I know the answer to this question already: Get a Peake code reader. I'm going to ask anyway since I don't (yet) have a reader and also hope that someone else has had the same problem. For the last couple of years when I'm at wide open throttle and nearing red line occasionally I'll get a flicker of the CEL. It seems to happen only when it's cold out, and just before my "really nailing it" shift point. I've always chalked it up to colder, denser air and blown it off. Lately though, I've driven the car hard a few times over the last month and the check engine light will flicker at a lower, like 6400 or so RPM. It has been very cold out, though. Should I be more worried than I am? Car feels strong, and doesn't stumble or exhibit any other issues. Rather, it still pulls hard as ever. Damn, I love driving that car! Going to Road Atlanta next week and don't want any surprise issues... Thanks for any suggestions. Kurt Louisville, KY ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#2. Rear Trailing Arm Bushings (or Sponges) - from Robert Manger
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:14:13 -0500 From: Robert Manger <Robert_Manger@Mastercard.com> Subject: Rear Trailing Arm Bushings (or Sponges) Patrick, For what its worth I went with stock bushings and Turners solution to limit the deflection, car seems pretty stable and I don't notice any increased harshness. Which ever solution you choose be sure to have the RTAB mounting bracket (within car body), fully welded as you will be putting more stress on this area which was only tack welded 1/2 to 3/4 the way around. Rob Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:30:46 -0600 From: "Patrick Goss - PA" <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Rear Trailing Arm Bushings (or Sponges) Well there is 95K on the car, they seemed very tight until I enjoyed 255 R tyres daily for a stint this past summer which seemed to loosen them up in short order. Back end feels loose now with even 245 street tires. I wonder perhaps if the RTAB were replaced by the previous owner, based on how it handled with stock tires when I bought it 2 years ago. Seems by your last statement I have yet another referral for powerflex. BTW I really thought the shims could be used with powerflex too! I thought the shims keep the T-arm from moving side to side between bushing and retainer. AIUI, is that a.k.a. DUI as in drunk driving :) ROTFLMAO ----------------------------------------- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail message and any attachments are only for the use of the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, distribution or other use of this e-mail message or attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please delete and notify the sender immediately. Thank you.
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#3. Re: [E36M3] CEL at WOT - from Zack Steinkamp
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 13:14:52 -0800 (PST) From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] CEL at WOT Hi Kurt -- I don't have an answer to your specific question, but... You can borrow an OBD-II scanner/reader/eraser from your local AutoZone. In looking at their website, they have 7 locations in Louisville. I did this yesterday to find out why my CEL came on in my '05 M3, and it was actually better than using the Peake tool. Their reader gives you real fault messages (in my case "System Rich (Bank 1)", "System Rich (Bank 2)", ... [I had just undone an intake modification, and I think the car had some trouble adapting. I disconnected the battery for a while, and haven't got the CEL again]). So you don't have to look up the 2-digit hex codes in a booklet. It can also erase the messages from the car which will reset the light. You just have to pay the full retail price of the tool ($185 in my case), but they give you a refund as soon as you return it. I just took it to the parking lot, read the codes, then brought it back in the store and got a refund back to my credit card. Get in the zone! ;-) -zs (p.s. are you sure it's not the traction control light flickering as the rear tires lose grip near the power peak? I had always thought that once the check engine light illuminated, it stayed on until it was reset.) --- kresener@aol.com wrote: > Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 15:24:35 -0500 > From: kresener@aol.com > Subject: CEL at WOT > > I know the answer to this question already: Get a > Peake code reader. > I'm going to ask anyway since I don't (yet) have a > reader and also hope that someone else has had the > same problem. > For the last couple of years when I'm at wide open > throttle and nearing red line occasionally I'll get > a flicker of the CEL. It seems to happen only when > it's cold out, and just before my "really nailing > it" shift point. I've always chalked it up to > colder, denser air and blown it off. > Lately though, I've driven the car hard a few times > over the last month and the check engine light will > flicker at a lower, like 6400 or so RPM. It has > been very cold out, though. > Should I be more worried than I am? > Car feels strong, and doesn't stumble or exhibit any > other issues. Rather, it still pulls hard as ever. > Damn, I love driving that car! > Going to Road Atlanta next week and don't want any > surprise issues... > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > Kurt > Louisville, KY > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#4. Re: [E36M3] CEL at WOT - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 13:25:02 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] CEL at WOT On Fri, March 3, 2006 1:16 pm, Zack Steinkamp said: > (p.s. are you sure it's not the traction control light > flickering as the rear tires lose grip near the power > peak? I had always thought that once the check engine > light illuminated, it stayed on until it was reset.) For OBD-II cars, that seems to be the case, but not necessarily for ODB-I cars. Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP - flickering CE light at last month's Sears race, hopefully fixed :-)
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#5. RE: Rear Trailing Arm Bushings - from James Clay
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:34:43 -0500 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: RE: Rear Trailing Arm Bushings Obviously we sell Powerflex. But the NVH isn't really much if any. I have had them in my convertible for about 3 years now. Put grease on every surface that touches another and noise isn't an issue. These aren't a metal sleeved bushing, so you need to grease the outside also with urethane. James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com http://www.bimmerworldracing.com http://www.powerflexusa.com Race Proven BMW Performance 877.639.9648
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#6. RE: Rear Trailing Arm Bushings (or Sponges) - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 13:37:38 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Rear Trailing Arm Bushings (or Sponges) As far as I can discern, the GC shims will only _fit_ with the OE bushings. PowerFlex insert bushing incorporates a flange that simulates the CG shim - there just would not be room in the 'cassette' for them and the PowerFlex bushings. Turner offers yet another solution that attaches to the 'cassette' and leaves a gap between the OE rubber bushing 'boss' and their shim/filler - $90 vs. $60 for the CG shims. Some of your other choices are variations of spherical ball that traps and firmly positions the Trailing Arm within the 'cassette'. I suppose you could remove and reinstall the GC shims for events but it would be an additional two hour task at best plus a string alignment. KLB -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:30:46 -0600 From: "Patrick Goss - PA" <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Rear Trailing Arm Bushings (or Sponges) Well there is 95K on the car, they seemed very tight until I enjoyed 255 R tyres daily for a stint this past summer which seemed to loosen them up in short order. Back end feels loose now with even 245 street tires. I wonder perhaps if the RTAB were replaced by the previous owner, based on how it handled with stock tires when I bought it 2 years ago. Seems by your last statement I have yet another referral for powerflex. BTW I really thought the shims could be used with powerflex too! I thought the shims keep the T-arm from moving side to side between bushing and retainer. AIUI, is that a.k.a. DUI as in drunk driving :) ROTFLMAO
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#7. RE: [E36M3] RE: Rear Trailing Arm Bushings - from Patrick Goss - PA
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:49:47 -0600 From: "Patrick Goss - PA" <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Rear Trailing Arm Bushings Thanks James, I think I am sold on the pwrflx solution at this point, and I am familiar with the gospel that these types of bushings require grease on all points of metal contact, even non friction surfaces. I had a full poly setup on the integra and followed that rule, the only ones that squeeked were the RTAB and that was as a result of binding due to poor design, not lubrication. Could you tell me if the pwrflex you sell come with lube? I have a tub of energy suspension lube somewhere, but not sure if it's compatible. Patrick -----Original Message----- From: James Clay [mailto:james@bimmerworld.com] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 4:39 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] RE: Rear Trailing Arm Bushings Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:34:43 -0500 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: RE: Rear Trailing Arm Bushings Obviously we sell Powerflex. But the NVH isn't really much if any. I have had them in my convertible for about 3 years now. Put grease on every surface that touches another and noise isn't an issue. These aren't a metal sleeved bushing, so you need to grease the outside also with urethane. James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com http://www.bimmerworldracing.com http://www.powerflexusa.com Race Proven BMW Performance 877.639.9648 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#8. OT: non-spinners wheel covers - from jakeadavis@comcast.net
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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:58:12 +0000 From: jakeadavis@comcast.net Subject: OT: non-spinners wheel covers I know you'll all seen the high bling factor spinner wheel covers. Well, now I've seen NON spinners! A taxi with advertising on the wheel covers that remained in the upright position (ok, upright for the lettering). Had to google it and found this http://www.adfleet.com/s/Home.asp Now if I can just get some 22"ers with either the flying propellor or M logo..... <EEK> Jake Davis
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#9. RE: [E36M3] CEL at WOT - from Steve W. Brewer
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:04:27 -0500 From: "Steve W. Brewer" <steve@take5.org> Subject: RE: [E36M3] CEL at WOT <de-lurk> > You can borrow an OBD-II scanner/reader/eraser from > your local AutoZone. I live in the same area as Kurt. I took my car to the local (Clarksville) AutoZone last year. Their scanner didn't work (or maybe the operator didn't know how to use it), but the attempt reset the CEL. IMHO, A better bet is to stop by Mike Johns in Jeffersonville. He'll read your codes for free and probably has a better and BMW-specific scanner that AutoZone doesn't. Plus, he'll be better able to suggest a course of action. Steve W. Brewer New Albany, IN <re-lurk>
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Rear Trailing Arm Bushings (or Sponges) - from Murray Roblin
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Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:56:41 -0800 From: "Murray Roblin" <mdrlist@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear Trailing Arm Bushings (or Sponges) On 3/3/06, Robert Manger <Robert_Manger@mastercard.com> wrote: > > ... Which ever solution you choose be sure to have the > RTAB mounting bracket (within car body), fully welded as you will be > putting more stress on this area which was only tack welded 1/2 to 3/4 the > way around. > > Rob, I haven't heard that the RTAB mounting bracket weld is an issue. Do these fail and rip the car's sheet metal? Is the welding performed from underneath the car? -- Murray Roblin Palo Alto