E36M3 #4672

Sunday, March 05, 2006 23:17:51

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#1. RE: Fan removal tips? - from Don Eilenberger
#2. RE: [E36M3] Fan removal tips? - from Alexander Fadeev
#3. Re: Rims - from Helmut Meisl
#4. RE: [E36M3] Fan removal tips? - from Paul L Fisher
#5. RE: [E36M3] Fan removal tips? - from Dave DeBuhr
#6. Re: [E36M3] Fan removal tips? - from Robert Brooks
#7. CD Changer - from Matthew Teel
#8. Re: [E36M3] Debugging a CEL code/95 M3 for sale. - from Alain van der Heide
#9. Re: Fan removal tips? - from kim.burgess@att.net
#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Fan removal tips? - from docwyte@comcast.net

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#1. RE: Fan removal tips? - from Don Eilenberger
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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:09:38 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Fan removal tips? At 11:56 AM 3/5/2006, you wrote: >All, > >I'm trying to remove the belt-driven fan on my 1995 M3 to replace a suspect >fan clutch and am having no luck at all. I was hoping to get this thing out >without draining coolant and removing the hoses and thermostat cover above >the fan but the fan nut will NOT budge. I understand it is reverse-threaded >so should be turned clockwise (as when facing the car from the front). So >far I've been trying to jam screwdrivers and such between the pulley nuts >while turning the fan nut with a 32mm wrench. I've pretzeled two >screwdrivers so far and the nut isn't budging. > >Does anyone have any BTDT tricks or stupid things I'm overlooking? > >Thank you, > >Kevin BTDT too many times.. I understand - AutoZone has a tool made for Ford cars for removing their fans that just happens to fit BMW's.. I haven't tried it myself - I usually just use the BFH on the end of the wrench and try to shock it free, but this might be a good alternative. Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1, PSJ, SquidBOOF#1 deilenberger@verizon.net NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.njsbmwr.org/ Moderator BMW E39 Enthusiast Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe39 ==================================================================== "Argue with an idiot and he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience" - Dilbert "The difference between intelligence and stupidity is - there is a limit to intelligence" - Anon ====================================================================

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#2. RE: [E36M3] Fan removal tips? - from Alexander Fadeev
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:56:15 -0500 From: "Alexander Fadeev" <afadeev@smu.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Fan removal tips? M540 [mailto:m540@bellsouth.net] wrote: > > I'm trying to remove the belt-driven fan on my 1995 M3 to > replace a suspect fan clutch and am having no luck at all. I > was hoping to get this thing out without draining coolant and > removing the hoses and thermostat cover above the fan but the > fan nut will NOT budge. You should absolutely be able to remove it without touching the water-pump, thus keeping the cooling system closed. Remember, that nut has been on the water-pump for a LONG time, packing in the dirt and the grime. It would not hurt to loosen that with a lubricating/penetrating spray of your choosing. What has always worked for me is to position a 32mm open-ended wrench on top of the nut, cover the driver-side fender with a rag and whack the wrench (clockwise, facing the front) with a sledge hammer. Repeat as necessary. After 1-4 whacks, the fan clutch would brake loose. Mind you, that was on TX cars that never saw snow/winter rust. The key part is having a thin enough wrench-end that would fit on the fan clutch nut without binding onto pulley bolts. My Facom wrench worked great. Most 1 1/4" auto store wrenches are too thick. Hope this helps, alex f

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#3. Re: Rims - from Helmut  Meisl
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 11:19:40 -0800 From: "Helmut Meisl" <hmeisl@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Rims To all, I have a 1995 M3 which is used mainly for commuting (Freeway) and occasional Driving School use (Track). I have found that the higher performance tires wear quickly and become expensive over years. I am considering buying another set of rims and tires, leaving one set for commuting and the other for track and pleasure excursions. The question to the group is 1) What are the weight of the stock 1995 M3 rims 7.5 x 17, and who was the manufacturer? 2) Should I put the better or higher performance tires on the above stock rims and buy cheaper rims? Or should I put the less expensive tires on the stock rims and buy better and lighter rims for the higher performance tires? I welcome any suggestions. Helmut Meisl 1995 M3

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Fan removal tips? - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 14:47:59 -0600 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Fan removal tips? I believe it is a backwards thread as well. In other words, clockwise to loosen. Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU 1989 325ix E30 M20 Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Fadeev [mailto:afadeev@smu.edu] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:06 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Fan removal tips? Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:56:15 -0500 From: "Alexander Fadeev" <afadeev@smu.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Fan removal tips? M540 [mailto:m540@bellsouth.net] wrote: > > I'm trying to remove the belt-driven fan on my 1995 M3 to > replace a suspect fan clutch and am having no luck at all. I > was hoping to get this thing out without draining coolant and > removing the hoses and thermostat cover above the fan but the > fan nut will NOT budge. You should absolutely be able to remove it without touching the water-pump, thus keeping the cooling system closed. Remember, that nut has been on the water-pump for a LONG time, packing in the dirt and the grime. It would not hurt to loosen that with a lubricating/penetrating spray of your choosing. What has always worked for me is to position a 32mm open-ended wrench on top of the nut, cover the driver-side fender with a rag and whack the wrench (clockwise, facing the front) with a sledge hammer. Repeat as necessary. After 1-4 whacks, the fan clutch would brake loose. Mind you, that was on TX cars that never saw snow/winter rust. The key part is having a thin enough wrench-end that would fit on the fan clutch nut without binding onto pulley bolts. My Facom wrench worked great. Most 1 1/4" auto store wrenches are too thick. Hope this helps, alex f ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#5. RE: [E36M3] Fan removal tips? - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 16:34:33 -0800 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Fan removal tips? Craftsman standard 32mm combo wrench fits no problem. Dave 98 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Fadeev [mailto:afadeev@smu.edu] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 10:06 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Fan removal tips? Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:56:15 -0500 From: "Alexander Fadeev" <afadeev@smu.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Fan removal tips? M540 [mailto:m540@bellsouth.net] wrote: > > I'm trying to remove the belt-driven fan on my 1995 M3 to > replace a suspect fan clutch and am having no luck at all. I > was hoping to get this thing out without draining coolant and > removing the hoses and thermostat cover above the fan but the > fan nut will NOT budge. You should absolutely be able to remove it without touching the water-pump, thus keeping the cooling system closed. Remember, that nut has been on the water-pump for a LONG time, packing in the dirt and the grime. It would not hurt to loosen that with a lubricating/penetrating spray of your choosing. What has always worked for me is to position a 32mm open-ended wrench on top of the nut, cover the driver-side fender with a rag and whack the wrench (clockwise, facing the front) with a sledge hammer. Repeat as necessary. After 1-4 whacks, the fan clutch would brake loose. Mind you, that was on TX cars that never saw snow/winter rust. The key part is having a thin enough wrench-end that would fit on the fan clutch nut without binding onto pulley bolts. My Facom wrench worked great. Most 1 1/4" auto store wrenches are too thick. Hope this helps, alex f

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Fan removal tips? - from Robert Brooks
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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:24:49 -0700 From: Robert Brooks <m3rb@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fan removal tips? FYI, a 1-1/4 inch wrench is very very close to 32mm; the one I got from Ace Hardware worked great on the fan and was considerably cheaper than alternatives. Robert 98 M43/4 Alpenweiß > >Craftsman standard 32mm combo wrench fits no problem. > >Dave >98 M3/4 > > > > > >

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#7. CD Changer - from Matthew Teel
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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 17:52:57 -0900 From: Matthew Teel <mteel@beluga.com> Subject: CD Changer I just changed my cursed A/C Microfilter today, and now my CD Changer is deader than... well... the engineer who invented that A/C microfilter would be if I ever managed to catch up with him. ;-) My stereo no longer recognizes it and it appears to have no power. I'm thinking I may have dislodged a control module in the process. Anyone know if there is something in there that could be causing this? Otherwise I'm just going to have to pull the glove box once more and poke around in there to see what I can find. Any clues will help. Thanks! Matthew '98 M3/4

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Debugging a CEL code/95 M3 for sale. - from Alain van der Heide
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Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:58:13 -0700 From: "Alain van der Heide" <ajvdh1@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Debugging a CEL code/95 M3 for sale. Last week I posted about a problem I had with my CEL coming (excerpted below). A couple of people suggested, through private e-mail, that I should not worry about the CEL codes, and take care of the leak first. They were right. The culprit will the connector on the underside of the intake manifold for the hose that comes from the idle control valve. The tab that holds the connector in place had broken, allowing the connector to pop out. $4.17 from my dealer and I'm back in business. Thanks guys! - Alain ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 04:15:57 +0000 > From: ajvdh1@comcast.net > Subject: Debugging a CEL code > > Last Sunday, I got my 95 M3 back on the road after a bunch of work. I > drove if a few times this week, and everything was OK, until yesterday. I > got into the boost, and heard some whistling, as if there was a leak in > the intake. A couple of minutes later, the CEL came on and it started > running like crap. I managed to nurse it the mile or so to home. When I > did the stomp test, I got 1221 (O2 sensor 1) over and over, yet my A/F > meter, which is hooked to the O2 sensor was reading OK. I disconnected > the battery for an hour, and ran a stomp test. Now instead of 1221, I get > 1281 (DME control module memory supply), and it still barely runs. >

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#9. Re: Fan removal tips? - from kim.burgess@att.net
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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 04:50:36 +0000 From: kim.burgess@att.net Subject: Re: Fan removal tips? Mine, a MY99 spun right off, though I broke my home made aluminum wrench and bent a steel fan nut wrench on a buddy's car. You probably have to breakdown and buy the wrench or hav a shop break it loose for you. -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 11:44:47 -0500 From: "M540" Subject: Fan removal tips? All, I'm trying to remove the belt-driven fan on my 1995 M3 to replace a suspect fan clutch and am having no luck at all. I was hoping to get this thing out without draining coolant and removing the hoses and thermostat cover above the fan but the fan nut will NOT budge. I understand it is reverse-threaded so should be turned clockwise (as when facing the car from the front). So far I've been trying to jam screwdrivers and such between the pulley nuts while turning the fan nut with a 32mm wrench. I've pretzeled two screwdrivers so far and the nut isn't budging. Does anyone have any BTDT tricks or stupid things I'm overlooking? Thank you, Kevin

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Fan removal tips? - from docwyte@comcast.net
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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 05:09:20 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Fan removal tips? Put the 32mm open end wrench on the nut and give it a solid whack with a BFH. I used a 4 lb hand sledge, it worked great. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: kim.burgess@att.net > Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 04:50:36 +0000 > From: kim.burgess@att.net > Subject: Re: Fan removal tips? > > Mine, a MY99 spun right off, though I broke my home made aluminum wrench and > bent a steel fan nut wrench on a buddy's car. You probably have to breakdown and > buy the wrench or hav a shop break it loose for you. -------------------- 10 > -------------------- Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 11:44:47 -0500 From: "M540" Subject: > Fan removal tips? All, I'm trying to remove the belt-driven fan on my 1995 M3 to > replace a suspect fan clutch and am having no luck at all. I was hoping to get > this thing out without draining coolant and removing the hoses and thermostat > cover above the fan but the fan nut will NOT budge. I understand it is > reverse-threaded so should be turned clockwise (as when facing the car from the > front). So far I've been trying to jam screwdrivers and such between the pulley > nuts while turning the fan nut with a 32mm wrench. I've pretzeled two > screwdrivers so far and the nut isn't budging. Does anyone have any BTDT tricks > or stupid things I'm overlooking? Thank you, Kevin > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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