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#1. RE: [E36M3] Part 1 - Cooling System - from Mike Frank
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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:03:16 -0500 From: "Mike Frank" <mfrank28@insightbb.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Part 1 - Cooling System Hey Carlos, Thanks. That's good to know. BTW, did you remove your fan? Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com [mailto:Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com] > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:04 AM > To: mfrank28@insightbb.com > Cc: e36m3@bmw-m.net > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Part 1 - Cooling System > > >8. Upper & lower hoses - 11 53 1 708 499 & 11 53 1 726 344 (OEM), or > pretty > >blue Samco Silicone. > > I had a nice time installing the Samco hoses, lots of swearing and a > little > bleeding on my part. > I would therefore recommend just buying new stock hoses. After the Samco > hoses were installed one was > pinched because it was too long, fit fine after trimming but definitely > not > worth the price of admission in my opinion. > They are purdy though. :-) > > -Carlos > 98 M3 w/Zionsville rad and Samco hoses
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#2. RE: Part 1 - Cooling System - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 08:55:48 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Part 1 - Cooling System For what it is worth < realoem.com > indicates an 88C T-stat for my 99 M3 (build 04/99) http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BG93&mospid=47488&btnr=11_ 1503&hg=11&fg=35 A 92C for my wife's 97 328 (build 09/96) http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BG13&mospid=47485&btnr=11_ 1503&hg=11&fg=35 And interestingly enough both 88C (thru 12/95) and 92C for the S50 1995 M3 http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=BF93&mospid=47486&btnr=11_ 1503&hg=11&fg=35 When I R-n-R'd my 99M3 it had the 88C and the 328 had the 92C. Anyone here checked into the new Stewart WP? http://www.stewartcomponents.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Cate gory_Code=BMWHPWP KLBurgess - still a believer in "Hotter is better for reduced emissions, cooler (to a point) better for power." -------------------- 4 -------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 01:52:00 -0800 From: "Raza Uddin" <raza.uddin@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Part 1 - Cooling System <snip> As for the thermostat, I think BMW has superseded the old 80c one with the 92c. At least that was the situation when I was ordering parts for my S52. I'm not sure about the S50, but would suggest to check with whomever you order parts from. <snip> Drive Safely, Raza
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#3. RE: [e36m3] RE: [E36M3] Part 1 - Cooling System - from marco
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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:07:00 -0800 From: "marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] RE: [E36M3] Part 1 - Cooling System IIRC Al t-stat housings were on early 5 series M50 engines. I thought they were NLA from BMW. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Mike Frank [mailto:mfrank28@insightbb.com] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 7:36 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] RE: [E36M3] Part 1 - Cooling System Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 10:30:56 -0500 From: "Mike Frank" <mfrank28@insightbb.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Part 1 - Cooling System Bob, I was wondering the same thing when I was looking. I remember people using the aluminum ones years ago and I always thought it was a factory part, but you had to specify aluminum, kinda like the water pump impellers. I've also seen the aluminum ones listed with the factory P/M. From other posts/forums, it seems someone may be making these as an aftermarket part. Honestly I really don't know. I'm sure someone else on the list knows. Regarding the T-Stat temp, 80C seems to be popular with the fan delete mod. Some also say the lower temp T-Stats give more power at the expense of emissions, although there seems to be some debate on this. I was just planning on using the 80C T-Stat because it seems to have worked well for others. Thanks, Mike Frank 97 M3 > Mike, > > I just had the T-stat changed on mine. The Dealer replaced the OEM 92C > with a 88C. I assume that temp difference is not significant. Also, from > your parts list are you saying BMW now manufactures an aluminum T-stat > housing? I purchased the aftermarket one. > > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe (sponsored by WCC & JT-Designs) > Philly Region SCCA > 2005 Philly Region BSP Champion > > 6. Aluminum T-Stat housing - 11 53 1 722 531. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#4. Re: Belts &Pulleys - from Shane Kleinpeter
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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 09:36:45 -0800 (PST) From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Belts &Pulleys >underdrive pulleys. It seems to me that all of the >kits that underdrive only the P/S & water pump are >very similar, no? I'd appreciate any feedback >or recommendations. I don't have any info here but my gut says they are probably similar... >Regarding my noisy pulleys, the noise seems to be >coming from the alternator area. I'm tempted to >replace all of them. Replace them all, they are all going to fail sooner or later and they are not too expensive. I just did all mine a couple months ago and the silence is well worth the few bucks spent. >Do I also need to replace the tensioners? Not likely. >Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Do I need >any special tools(assume the fan is already off)? No. You need to remove the fan belt and then the pulleys come off with a ratchet/socket. Easy job once the belt is off. Note the position of the belt before you take it off... Shane Kleinpeter http://www.justracing.com/homepage/sak335 '96 M3 '94 325i #76 ITS / #335 JP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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#5. RE: Part 1 - Cooling System - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 10:42:55 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Part 1 - Cooling System I'm running Power Pulleys that reduce pump rpm, for admittedly minimal horsepower 'realization'. So if this pump has 15% more flow, for me, that would be a good thing, as for the pump moving water through the radiator to quickly that won't be a problem as the T-Stat handles flow metering based coolant temperature in the head/block to/from the radiator. KLBurgess - still believes T-stat controls flow of coolant through the radiator. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Goss - PA [mailto:Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:04 AM To: Burgess, Kim L; E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Part 1 - Cooling System -----Original Message----- From: Burgess, Kim L [mailto:kim.l.burgess@boeing.com] Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:56 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] RE: Part 1 - Cooling System Anyone here checked into the new Stewart WP? http://www.stewartcomponents.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Cate gory_Code=BMWHPWP ------------ I asked the same question before and nobody on the list had opinions as it wasn't being delivered yet. I'm curious in theory how this will help. If it lasts longer and is more durable, that alone justifies some of the $$. It sounds overbuilt, which is good, and its good enough for nascar! I believe this application's claim to fame is its 15% increase in flow. I'm not sure how pushing coolant faster ensures a cooler engine. I think you'd want coolant to stay in the radiator longer so it gets air-cooled, hence the reason most get a larger capacity core. I see more merit in further underdriving things which this pump facilitates. Hopefully more list members will comment. Please keep posts replies to list. KLBurgess - still a believer in "Hotter is better for reduced emissions, cooler (to a point) better for power." Me too having felt power/seen fuel efficiency difference on various cars with stuck thermostats. Patrick
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#6. RE: [E36M3] CD Changer - from Matthew Teel
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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:42:52 -0900 From: Matthew Teel <mteel@beluga.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] CD Changer I went to "slip out" the head unit, and mine is retained by what looks like a 5-sided Torx about that same size as a T-10. I take it this is a BMW specific tool? Any sources that anyone knows of? Looks like the glove box will be coming back out anyway as I just discovered my tail lights no longer work, but I want to replace my head unit soon so I'll need to track this tool down anyway. Thanks again, Matthew '98 M3/4
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#7. Oil Leak - FYI - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:23:36 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: Oil Leak - FYI It's been a while, and I have since had this repaired. As It turns out a plug in the oil galley in the back of the cylinder head had backed out and was leaking pressurized oil. The mechanic that looked at this initially said that this was by far the worst head gasket failure he had seen, as oil was literally raining/draining off the bell housing. KLBurgess - 99M3 -------------------- 5 -------------------- #5. Oil Leak - from Burgess, Kim L TopDate: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:34:47 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: Oil Leak I have a significant amount of oil on my transmission and oil is finding it's way to my exhaust and fumes are entering the cabin via the HVAC. I replaced the cam cover gasket and 15 preload grommets. I still have an oil issue. Any hints on how to address this? The parts guy selling the gasket to me told me that the gasket is intended to be installed dry, no sealant. Can the plastic Cam Cover warp over time and not properly engage the cylinder head seal plane, failing to seal properly. Is there any other possible source of an oil leak between the engine and fire wall? Thank You Kim L Burgess
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#8. Re: [E36M3] CD Changer - from David Ngo
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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 12:27:32 -0800 (PST) From: David Ngo <rudngo@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] CD Changer I used an allen key and it worked just fine. The fasteners are not secured very tightly. Dave ----- Original Message ---- From: Matthew Teel <mteel@beluga.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, March 6, 2006 2:46:16 PM Subject: RE: [E36M3] CD Changer Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:42:52 -0900 From: Matthew Teel <mteel@beluga.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] CD Changer I went to "slip out" the head unit, and mine is retained by what looks like a 5-sided Torx about that same size as a T-10. I take it this is a BMW specific tool? Any sources that anyone knows of? Looks like the glove box will be coming back out anyway as I just discovered my tail lights no longer work, but I want to replace my head unit soon so I'll need to track this tool down anyway. Thanks again, Matthew '98 M3/4 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#9. RE: [E36M3] CD Changer - from Rex Tener
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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 12:46:07 -0800 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] CD Changer At 11:46 AM 3/6/2006, Matthew Teel wrote: >I went to "slip out" the head unit, and mine is retained by what looks like >a 5-sided Torx about that same size as a T-10. Some people are able to finesse it out with a small tool (hex, torx, screwdriver). Ron Stygar lists a couple of tools here: <http://www.unofficialbmw.com/all/stereo/radio_removal_tool.html> Where are you located? Rex Tener rex_tener@yahoo.com
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#10. RE: [E36M3] CD Changer - from Mike Frank
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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 16:03:06 -0500 From: "Mike Frank" <mfrank28@insightbb.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] CD Changer Matthew, I'm sure these are available elsewhere (Crutchfield maybe), but you can get them at the dealer. I think they're pretty cheap, but I don't know because my dealer just gave me one. A quick check on Ebay shows a bunch of them. The ZDMak one looks nice. HTH, Mike Frank 97 M3 > I went to "slip out" the head unit, and mine is retained by what looks > like > a 5-sided Torx about that same size as a T-10. > > I take it this is a BMW specific tool? > > Any sources that anyone knows of? > > Looks like the glove box will be coming back out anyway as I just > discovered > my tail lights no longer work, but I want to replace my head unit soon so > I'll need to track this tool down anyway. > > Thanks again, > > Matthew > '98 M3/4