E36M3 #4677

Friday, March 10, 2006 12:42:02

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#1. RE: [E36M3] My '98 Vert is likely for sale.. - from Don Eilenberger
#2. My '98 Vert is likely for sale.. - from Ahmad Lutfeali
#3. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Oil pan baffle - Which to buy VAC/Turner? - from marco
#4. Re: [E36M3] check coolant message - from Bruce H
#5. RE: [E36M3] My '98 Vert is likely for sale.. - from Mark D
#6. Re: [E36M3] check coolant - from Marc Plante
#7. Re: [E36M3] check coolant - from Mark D
#8. RE: [E36M3] Damper options - from Scott Stiles
#9. Fwd: [E36M3] My '98 Vert is likely for sale.. - from Rich Dorffer
#10. Re: [E36M3] Damper options - from Kent L. Shephard

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#1. RE: [E36M3] My '98 Vert is likely for sale.. - from Don Eilenberger
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:27:41 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] My '98 Vert is likely for sale.. At 10:21 AM 3/10/2006, you wrote: >I like the way you blocked out the license plate in only the rear shot. ;-) > >Paul L Fisher > >2000 540i E39 M62TU >2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 >1989 325iX E30 M20 Hey - I blocked it out in the front shot too.. Plus it seems everyone always does that for some reason :) I've never quite figured out why.. if someone steals it - it is WELL insured.. Don

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#2. My '98 Vert is likely for sale.. - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:01:45 -0500 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: My '98 Vert is likely for sale.. Don, HIGHLY nostalgic. I have the same combo Fern/Magma (well I used to have the Magma, now swapped out since it's more of a track rat). Rare combination. Good luck with the sale. Ahmad

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#3. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Oil pan baffle - Which to buy VAC/Turner? - from marco
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:05:17 -0800 From: "marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Oil pan baffle - Which to buy VAC/Turner? I've run both (don't ask why). My "guess" is the VAC one works a bit better - at least watching videos of my races at the same tracks the oil pressure gauge does not seem to fluctuate as much as with the Turner. And the idiot light I have set at 29psi IIRC flickers under hard braking left hand turns less than with the Turner. A caveat is the VAC "data" was obtained on a fresh motor with a new oil pump which had some minor mods (ported and polished pickups). Both are better than no baffle. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Mo Karamat [mailto:karamatm@optonline.net] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 10:54 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] Oil pan baffle - Which to buy VAC/Turner? Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:31:01 -0500 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: Oil pan baffle - Which to buy VAC/Turner? Dear All, Evening.. Before we put the new (to me) engine into the race car, I want to tighten the oil pump nut, and install a oil pan baffle. I beleive that there are 2 choices.. Both are priced at ~$200. Does anyone have an opinion about the VAC baffle Vs. The Turner version? The VAC version looks simpler to install (1 piece unit). Any thoughts or experieces with either solution would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Mo ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#4. Re: [E36M3] check coolant message - from Bruce H
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:09:05 +0000 From: gobuffs93@comcast.net (Bruce H) Subject: Re: [E36M3] check coolant message Thanks. i should have answered my own question last night as I think I fixed it yesterday. I wanted to drive to work today to check if I really did. Everything was fine for months except the check coolant light. No change in coolant level, sender was replaced twice in the past year (last in December). I changed the expansion tank last night and that seems to have cured it. Bruce -------------- Original message -------------- From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> > On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 00:52 -0600, Bruce wrote: > > Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 17:13:21 -0600 > > From: "Bruce" > > Subject: check coolant message > > > > I have been fighting a check coolant message when I turn the car off for > > months. Somebody told me that there is air in the system. I have bled it a > > number of times but the message is still there (but only when I turn the car > > off). I check the level and it is fine. The somebody told me to turn the > > car to position 2 (do not turn the car on), turn the heater on full blast, > > and pour coolant in while keeping the bleed screw open. Well when the car > > is not running the coolant isn't circulating so it doesn't seem to get any > > air out. If I come home when the car is warm and open the bleed screw air > > comes out, but when I close it it sounds like there is a leak. I can't tell > > exactly where but it in the coolant tank or thermostat area. I get coolant > > to come out, but if I do it after the next drive there is air there again. > > I am wondering if my problems could be caused by a crack in the coolant > > overflow bottle? > > > > Any other ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > Bruce > > Ugh, > > I've had similar issues on my american car. Sounds like a possible > blown head gasket. However, your low coolant message is probably a > different problem caused by a failing sensor. If you have coolant > sitting in the bottom of your overflow tank (where the sensor is), then > this message shouldn't arise on the OBC. For me, it takes quite a low > coolant level in the overflow tank to get this to come on. > > The person told you to turn the heat on like that because it opens up > the heater valves which most cars don't even have. (Assuming you have > the dual zone climate control). Once their fully open, and you open the > bleeder screw, any remaining bubbles can escape. But in reality it > shouldn't be hard and it sounds like you have new bubbles. In my case > the new bubbles were caused by a slowly failing head gasket. Other > people may or may not agree with me. > > Thanks, > Mark > >

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#5. RE: [E36M3] My '98 Vert is likely for sale.. - from Mark D
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:09:54 -0500 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] My '98 Vert is likely for sale.. On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 09:41 -0600, Don Eilenberger wrote: > Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:27:41 -0500 > From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@yahoo.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] My '98 Vert is likely for sale.. > > At 10:21 AM 3/10/2006, you wrote: > > >I like the way you blocked out the license plate in only the rear shot. ;-) > > > >Paul L Fisher > > > >2000 540i E39 M62TU > >2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 > >1989 325iX E30 M20 > > > Hey - I blocked it out in the front shot too.. > > Plus it seems everyone always does that for some reason :) > > I've never quite figured out why.. if someone steals > it - it is WELL insured.. > > Don And if insurance pays, it saves you the hassle of trying to get it sold for years on end ;) Thanks, Mark

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#6. Re: [E36M3] check coolant - from Marc Plante
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:08:08 -0500 From: "Marc Plante" <marcva@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] check coolant Sensors go bad. I wouldn't replace coolant without also doing a sensor in an E36. Marc Plante E36 M3/4 69k Vienna, VA

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#7. Re: [E36M3] check coolant - from Mark D
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:33:51 -0500 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] check coolant On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 11:11 -0600, Marc Plante wrote: > Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:08:08 -0500 > From: "Marc Plante" <marcva@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] check coolant > > Sensors go bad. I wouldn't replace coolant without also doing a sensor in an > E36. Says the rich man ;) Mine has lasted 170,000 miles and it's easy enough to suck the coolant out of the overflow by itself so I don't see the point in replacing it every time, unless of course you're going to replace a lot of stuff every time you do a coolant change. I suppose it depends on how much a breakdown would cost you. It would be cool if someone did an analysis of proactive maintenance versus unexpected breakdown cost. I've never seen such a thing, but I bet it would result in something along the lines of "change your oil, coolant, belts, hoses, and plugs regularly, then inspect your engine and drivetrain and suspension weekly" Thanks, Mark

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#8. RE: [E36M3] Damper options - from Scott Stiles
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:12:27 -0800 From: "Scott Stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Damper options I recently went w/the "new" Bilstein Sports (supposed to have a shorter front bumpstop and a slightly lower front perch) on my OE springs. I think I've put about 1k street miles on them so far. My car will be 99% street and 1% track for the next few years. Oh, and I'm running 17" rims. I posted a positive review of them after the first drive, but with some more miles my opinion has shifted a bit. Net: the Bilsteins are incredibly aggressive at snubbing body motion, and their high speed damping is very very stiff (meaning they feel "harsh" and it feels like the car is getting beaten up). They feel very similar to my 996's M030 setup (also Bilstein). When you go over a good sized bump it feels like I'm going to fly out of the seat. On the positive side, when I'm really pushing the car at higher speeds it feels very very good. On the negative side, there are roads around Seattle that I avoid for fear of damaging the car -- which sucks. I'm convinced I have rattles now that I didn't have before a long highway drive over some bad pavement, and my speedometer has decided to start flaking on me. All strangely converging around going w/the Bilsteins :) These shocks aren't for sissies, and I think after some deep introspection I may actually be a sissy. Bummer. Were I to do it again today, I'd go w/replacement OEM Sachs/Boge without a doubt. I may go ahead and make the switch anyways, but it's down the queue a bit behind basic maintenance stuff. Scott. PS. The Monroes are either gone for good or deeply out of stock waiting for a new batch, based on what I've heard on BF. -----Original Message----- From: Ahmad Lutfeali [mailto:m3_racer99@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 10:53 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Damper options Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 13:49:31 -0500 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Damper options Gruppe, I need to change the dampers on the street car, which is currently riding on 90K miles stock struts/dampers. This will be a 100% street car where comfort and reliability factor is high. I know there are Konis and Bilsteins. I do not want to deal with strut cutting etc. so Koni is out. I definitely like the lifetime warranty which Bilsteins offer but the trade off is a stiffer ride. Next I have heard of Monroes. Do these Monroes come with lifetime warranty as well? Any other options? Thanks in advance. Ahmad ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#9. Fwd: [E36M3] My '98 Vert is likely for sale.. - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:18:08 -0500 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: Fwd: [E36M3] My '98 Vert is likely for sale.. On 3/10/06, E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> wrote: > > From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] My '98 Vert is likely for sale.. > > I like the way you blocked out the license plate in only the rear shot. > ;-) Indeed, I wonder what Don does as he drives around? :-) Any pics of the interior? Any better pics where you can actually see the condition of the car? What happened with the original wheels? Regards, Rich

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Damper options - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:32:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Damper options Hi, I've had the Bilstein Sports for a little over a year. I have them with the stock springs. Firmer than stock but not too bad. You get the whole assembly for the front, not just an insert. Kent dhogg wrote: > Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:11:20 -0500 > From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> > Subject: Damper options > > Without a doubt, I'd opt for the NEW self-adjusting Konis that give a > boulevard ride but turn into street fighters when pushed. Grassroots > Motorsports did a recent write-up on them. They gave a nice ride quality > and they beat the Koni Sports in performance! > > > > Dave Hogg > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > -- Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. -- Daniel Webster

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