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#1. Re: [E36M3] clutch kit for street driven M3? - from kwill69058@comcast.net
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:22:59 +0000 From: kwill69058@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] clutch kit for street driven M3? Guys, Correct me if I am wrong but, from what I have been told if you have a stock type (non-LW) flywheel it will be quieter at idle and gives you more protection from the dredded money shift. Is it really worth the risk in a street car? Just my cents worth....... -Keith. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ( If you can read this, thank a teacher, If you can read this in English, thank our Soldiers ! ) -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:50:49 -0600 > From: "Jamie Howton" > Subject: Re: [E36M3] clutch kit for street driven M3? > > Mel, > > A lightweight flywheel transforms the feel of the car as far as first > and second gear acceleration and heel-toe downshifts go. The engine > seems to rev much more easily. For street use (and track use too from > my experience) the stock Sachs clutch works just fine, unless you are > making major HP of course. > > Regards > > -- > Jamie Howton > 2000 M5 > 1995 M3 > Hampshire, IL > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] clutch kit for street driven M3? - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:34:00 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] clutch kit for street driven M3? A non-LTW flywheel will not protect from the money shift over a LTW one...other than maybe a millisecond before the engine zings to past redline. Chester --- kwill69058@comcast.net wrote: > Correct me if I am wrong but, from what I have been told if you have a stock > type (non-LW) flywheel it will be quieter at idle and gives you more > protection from the dredded money shift. Is it really worth the risk in a > street car?
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#3. Re: [E36M3] clutch kit for street driven M3? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:50:56 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] clutch kit for street driven M3? On Thu, March 16, 2006 2:32 pm, kwill69058@comcast.net said: > Correct me if I am wrong but, from what I have been told if you have a > stock type (non-LW) flywheel it will be quieter at idle True. LTW flywheels don't have the mass to dampen the transmission noise. > and gives you more > protection from the dredded money shift. Umm, no. Money shift is pilot error. Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP - 4th-to-1st downshift, ooops
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#4. Re: clutch kit for street driven M3? - from Peter Fanning
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:53:46 -0800 From: Peter Fanning <pbfanning@comcast.net> Subject: Re: clutch kit for street driven M3? I just went through this on our '98 M3/4. We've owned it since new and put 121k miles on it with the original clutch including many thousands of track miles and one new driver. Since I don't plan on adding massive power and it's a daily driver I stuck with OEM replacement. The shop replaced the clutch, pressure plate, pilot bearing, throw out bearing, pivot pin(new to me), rear main seal and resurfaced the flywheel. I saw all the old parts and while worn they all still looked fine, no unusual wear. I would highly recommend completing the sticky fifth and reverse gear gate TSB when the transmission is out. If I remember correctly you're an ex-mustang guy too. I replaced the stock clutch assembly in our '96 cobra with a King Cobra clutch kit at ~30k miles due to wear, this was only street use. In the M3 I vote for stock replacement, long wear and inexpensive. Peter Fanning '95 318ti '98 M3/4 '03 530i At 02:31 PM 3/16/2006, you wrote: >Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:38:21 -0600 >From: Mel Silva <melsilva@mindspring.com> >Subject: clutch kit for street driven M3? > >I'm in a bit of a quandary here. I know I need to replace my clutch >soon, it's starting to howl if I slip the clutch at all, but still >clamps completely if fully engaged. Plus the throw-out bearing has seen >its fair share of abuse from stop-and-go commute traffic and it is >starting to rattle a bit at idle. > >So the question is; do I replace the clutch with Sachs replacement >parts, or go for something a little more 'sporty'? I have long >considered the lightened flywheels from UUC and Rogue, but they seem a >bit out of reach financially at the moment (at least I'm not still >unemployed!). > >I'm sure I could get "opinions" on Bimmerforums, but I trust this group >to be a bit more sane and realistic (just a bit). What is the right >option for me; Stock replacement or "flux capacitor"? > >TIA >Mel Silva >Houston, TX >'97 M3/4 >www.melsilva.net <http://www.melsilva.net/>
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#5. Re: [E36M3] m3 ltw for sale - from Michael Michalski
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:53:34 -0600 From: "Michael Michalski" <m.michalski@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] m3 ltw for sale Hell, I am in Chicago, and I am willing to provide my consulting service and drive this one for anyone interested :) Michael Michalski ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark D" <mdlkml@atari-source.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] m3 ltw for sale > Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:11:17 -0500 > From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] m3 ltw for sale > > On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 16:01 -0600, Patrick Goss - PA wrote: >> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:57:43 -0600 >> From: "Patrick Goss - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> >> Subject: m3 ltw for sale >> >> http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/car/141427276.html >> >> >> >> No affliliation, however, I volunteer to inspect, test drive, and >> opinionate this one for any list member. >> >> >> >> Patrick Goss >> >> 97 M3/4 > > Oh baby! > > I'll test drive this one for anyone else too :) I'm in Philly > > Thanks, > Mark > > >
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#6. catalytic converters - from tim g
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:17:31 -0800 (PST) From: tim g <shaggy62832003@yahoo.com> Subject: catalytic converters does anyone know what size cats i would need to get, i think they are 2 1/4 '' /13''but i'm not sure.. i am replacing the stock ones with high flow. i have a 97' 328i . thanks Tim.. --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.
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#7. shift knob loose (or is it?) - from Steve Sharp
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:33:19 -0800 From: "Steve Sharp" <steve.sharp@xilinx.com> Subject: shift knob loose (or is it?) I need some opinions (which I know this list is not lacking). My shift knob seems to come loose very easily. More than a few times, what I feel is a normal shifting motion has dislodged the knob. It seems like the force required to pull the knob off is not more than that required to lift a 12 pack. Is this looser than normal? Is there any way to fix the attachment inside the knob or is it time for a new knob (maybe lighted?). Thanks, Steve
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#8. Re: [E36M3] shift knob loose (or is it?) - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:47:26 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] shift knob loose (or is it?) On Thu, March 16, 2006 3:41 pm, Steve Sharp said: > Is this looser than normal? It sounds looser than normal, yes. > Is there any way > to fix the attachment inside the knob or is it time for a new knob > (maybe lighted?). Others can weigh in on the possibility of fixing the existing one, but getting a new one is one solution. Jim Bassett
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#9. RE: [E36M3] shift knob loose (or is it?) - from Scott Stiles
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:25:05 -0800 From: "Scott Stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] shift knob loose (or is it?) FWIW, I bought the factory lighted-knob upgrade kit, which came w/the lit M-knob and wiring harness (which plugs into the back of your dimmer control). Nice kit. IIRC it was in the $110'ish range from the stealer. Oh, and I had to yank with the approximate force of lifting a pony keg to get the OE one off. :) -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:52 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] shift knob loose (or is it?) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:47:26 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] shift knob loose (or is it?) On Thu, March 16, 2006 3:41 pm, Steve Sharp said: > Is this looser than normal? It sounds looser than normal, yes. > Is there any way > to fix the attachment inside the knob or is it time for a new knob > (maybe lighted?). Others can weigh in on the possibility of fixing the existing one, but getting a new one is one solution. Jim Bassett ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#10. Re: [E36M3] clutch kit for street driven M3? - from Dave Swingle
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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:13:59 -0600 From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle@dmcnews.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] clutch kit for street driven M3? Mel: Having just put the UUC/Sachs setup in my 99 M3 - I can certainly say it's the way to go. Much nicer to drive. I didn't do the recommended slave cylinder upgrade and I don't have any problem with it - the feel is great to me. I've seen no downside to the conversion at all. If you want to go really cheap I could probably be talked into parting with my old parts - the car has 75K miles on it and there wasn't really anything wrong with the clutch I took out as far as I can tell. The siping on the clutch faces is still visible - I could get you some pics if you want to consider it. I had to pull the trans anyway to fix the sticky fifth gear syndrome, and this was kind of an extreme$$ case of "while I'm in there". Honestly it would seem a shame to go to all that trouble to put a USED clutch back in, but if you need to get by for a while and have more time and energy than money, it's an idea. This only works if you aren't paying someone to do the labor. Dave Swingle -------------------- 6 -------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:38:21 -0600 From: Mel Silva <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: clutch kit for street driven M3? I'm in a bit of a quandary here. I know I need to replace my clutch soon, it's starting to howl if I slip the clutch at all, but still clamps completely if fully engaged. Plus the throw-out bearing has seen its fair share of abuse from stop-and-go commute traffic and it is starting to rattle a bit at idle. So the question is; do I replace the clutch with Sachs replacement parts, or go for something a little more 'sporty'? I have long considered the lightened flywheels from UUC and Rogue, but they seem a bit out of reach financially at the moment (at least I'm not still unemployed!). I'm sure I could get "opinions" on Bimmerforums, but I trust this group to be a bit more sane and realistic (just a bit). What is the right option for me; Stock replacement or "flux capacitor"? TIA Mel Silva Houston, TX '97 M3/4 www.melsilva.net <http://www.melsilva.net/>