E36M3 #4717

Wednesday, April 05, 2006 23:46:33

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#1. Re: [E36M3] What not to do with Ti backing plates. - from Mark D
#2. Need restaurant recommendations for Greenwich or Stamford...or.... - from Chester Wong
#3. Re: Fuel Starvation Stage II Kit - from James Clay
#4. [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? - from Dave DeBuhr
#5. Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? - from cteague@cox.net
#6. Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? - from Jamie Howton
#7. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? - from Marco
#8. [E36M3] [UUC]Instrument Cluster Lighting - from Steve Tymoszuk
#9. Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? - from Chris Teague
#10. Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? - from Scott McClung

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#1. Re: [E36M3] What not to do with Ti backing plates. - from Mark D
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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 11:31:29 -0400 From: Mark D <mdlkml@atari-source.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] What not to do with Ti backing plates. On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 09:36 -0500, William Townsend wrote: > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 10:29:19 -0400 > From: "William Townsend" <wtownsend@juniper.net> > Subject: What not to do with Ti backing plates. > > Had a brain out today. Put new front rotors, hawk ht-14 pads and my new > Ti backing plates in. All went in fine no shoving or forcing. Drive the > car out for a test drive. In just a matter of a few hundred feet it > feels like the front brakes are on. Oooops, forgot that the Ti plates > should not be installed until the pads have worn off at least 1mm!! > Turned around, now smoke coming out of the wheel wells, get in the > garage, get a fan to cool them off, jack it up and forcefully rotate the > front wheels so the rotor and pad don't fuse together. Remove plates and > reassemble. (all the while expelling finely crafted expletives!) > > Don't feel bad... I'm a seasoned mechanic when it comes to coolant systems thanks to my prior ownership of >100,000 mile american cars. The other day I was down at a friend's shop using the lift. I did perfectly the RSM's, control arm bushings, and since I still had a little time I did the thermostat and housing. Now I was being super anal, torquing every nut and bolt to precise specification, and when I did the thermostat, I was equally careful, especially since half the neck of the radiator broke off, I was very much so stressing the drive home. So I get done, test it and drive an entire hour home to find that the lower radiator hose wasn't clamped on the thermostat housing. Unbelievable that I could be so stupid, but more unbelievable is that the car didn't even start to overheat and it lost very little coolant. The hose popped off only enough to vent pressure, and it was less than 50 degrees F outside, and the trip was all highway. Talk about luck. My tail is between my legs and my trusted mechanic is replacing the radiator and hoses. I guess that's how the transmission shop who replaced my transmission before forgot to hook up the MAF. Fine details and all. The trick for my problem is to have a tape recorder or a nice girlfriend note every step taken - then just replay in reverse ;) Thanks. Mark

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#2.  Need restaurant recommendations for Greenwich or Stamford...or.... - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 08:45:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: <OT> Need restaurant recommendations for Greenwich or Stamford...or.... Hey guys, I'll be driving with a large group from NYC to Boston on Saturday. Since several people are from NJ and some are from Queens, I figure it would be easiest to meet along the way. Targeted meeting time is around lunch so I figure we can all sit down and enjoy a good meal. So...if you have any suggestions for a place that's not too far off I95, please let me know. Thanks a bunch, Chester

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#3. Re:  Fuel Starvation Stage II Kit - from James Clay
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 17:08:59 -0400 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: Re: Fuel Starvation Stage II Kit Install comments: >I just received my Stage II Fuel Starvation kit from Bimmerworld. Has anyone here installed this kit? I read the installation >instructions 4 or 5 times last night and I believe there are some errors in there that make it a bit confusing. I wrote them and sometimes I am not as thorough as I need to be. We also have a tech support line for help. >First, it says to run the large diameter hose between the 2 pumps. Well, that hose is only 6" long so it's not likely to reach. I >think that should be the small diameter hose, which is about 3' long. Read them thoroughly. Step 10 - Connect the remaining ports of two fuel pumps together (small driver's port to large passenger's port) - use a short section of small diameter line included to run from the driver's side pump to a step-up adaptor, then into the large diameter line installed in Step 7 So there is a connector in the middle and both the small and large diameter are used. A short section of large is used to position the adaptor correctly. >There are 3 up adapters included that are brass barb connectors screwed together to go from the 8mm hose to the 12mm hose. Do I >need to be concerned about leaking at the threads of those adapters? If I need to put something on them (like teflon tape, although >that probably won't stand up to gasoline) what might that substance be? Tapered pipe threads, no leaking. There is a fuel resistant tape, but brass is soft I have never had a leak from these or any brass pipe threaded adaptor. >Near the end it says to splice the pigtail connector in using the supplied splice connectors. Ummmm....no connectors found in the >kit and the parts list at the beginning of the instructions doesn't state that there are any included. Not a big deal, because I >will be using a Posi-Lock Tap connector for this, but still.... The proper way to do this is solder and at some point, someone at the shop changed the spec on what we send. Sorry. James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com http://www.bimmerworldracing.com http://www.powerflexusa.com Race Proven BMW Performance 877.639.9648

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#4. [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:48:00 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? I was just checking out a BMW video podcast (http://vodcast.bmw.com/) where they show a new twin turbo direct injection I6 to be deloyed in an upcoming model. All the guy said was it will be a model that is fun to drive. I would think it has to be one of the new Ms. Any idea which model is slated to get this engine? Has anyone done an aftermarket twin turbo version for our E36 M3s?

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#5. Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? - from cteague@cox.net
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:18:14 -0400 From: <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? Dave, This new TT I6 motor will be in the 2007 335i. It's a new model above the 330i, since the new E90 M3 will go upmarket in price and performance. Like the E90 325i, it's still a 3.0 liter. It has the turbos to increase the performance over the 330. Both 2Dr and 4Dr will be called a 335i IIRC. (No more "Ci"). It does look like a fun car, but I have not heard it will be used in an "M" car. Chris 97 M3/4 > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:48:00 -0700 > From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> > Subject: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? > > I was just checking out a BMW video podcast (http://vodcast.bmw.com/) where > they show a new twin turbo direct injection I6 to be deloyed in an upcoming > model. All the guy > said was it will be a model that is fun to drive. I would think it has to be > one of the new Ms. > Any idea which model is slated to get this engine?

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#6. Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:52:00 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? > I was just checking out a BMW video podcast (http://vodcast.bmw.com/) where > they show a new twin turbo direct injection I6 to be deloyed in an upcoming > model. All the guy > said was it will be a model that is fun to drive. I would think it has to be > one of the new Ms. > Any idea which model is slated to get this engine? Autoweek had spy pictures of the new 335i with an intercooler visible in the lower grill. They are saying it will be a 3.0L twin turbo making around 300HP. I am sure people will get more than that out of them with a programming upgrade. The E90 M3 engine is a V8 version of the E90 M5 engine, it should make upwards of 400HP in the M3 but will be normally aspirated. > Has anyone done an aftermarket twin turbo version for our E36 M3s? Several companies have done a single turbocharger E36 M3; I have heard of a "Mechtech" or something like that and Active Autowerke (http://activeautowerke.com/turbo/main.php) are still selling them. I know a guy who had a Mechtech turbo'd 95 M3 and he said it was very fast but very unreliable, however AA seem to have a pretty good reputation when it comes to forced induction so their kit might be a different story. I don't know of any twin turbo kits out there. Ask around on Bimmerforums.com, they have a forced induction forum IIRC. Regards -- Jamie Howton 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL

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#7. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? - from Marco
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:46:47 -0700 From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? 300hp 3L twin turbo? that can't be right. what's the point? Marco -----Original Message----- From: Jamie Howton [mailto:jhowton@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 5:56 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:52:00 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? > I was just checking out a BMW video podcast (http://vodcast.bmw.com/) where > they show a new twin turbo direct injection I6 to be deloyed in an upcoming > model. All the guy > said was it will be a model that is fun to drive. I would think it has to be > one of the new Ms. > Any idea which model is slated to get this engine? Autoweek had spy pictures of the new 335i with an intercooler visible in the lower grill. They are saying it will be a 3.0L twin turbo making around 300HP. I am sure people will get more than that out of them with a programming upgrade. The E90 M3 engine is a V8 version of the E90 M5 engine, it should make upwards of 400HP in the M3 but will be normally aspirated. > Has anyone done an aftermarket twin turbo version for our E36 M3s? Several companies have done a single turbocharger E36 M3; I have heard of a "Mechtech" or something like that and Active Autowerke (http://activeautowerke.com/turbo/main.php) are still selling them. I know a guy who had a Mechtech turbo'd 95 M3 and he said it was very fast but very unreliable, however AA seem to have a pretty good reputation when it comes to forced induction so their kit might be a different story. I don't know of any twin turbo kits out there. Ask around on Bimmerforums.com, they have a forced induction forum IIRC. Regards -- Jamie Howton 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#8. [E36M3] [UUC]Instrument Cluster Lighting - from Steve Tymoszuk
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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 22:04:30 -0400 From: Steve Tymoszuk <steve.tymoszuk@tds.net> Subject: [E36M3] [UUC]Instrument Cluster Lighting I've got a question for y'all out there regarding speedometer back lighting. A number of months ago a had a dim spot appear at the 40 km/h on the km/h scale. Since then the dim spot went away. So far, so good. Tonight I turn the lights on and now I've got two dim bands, only on the km/h scale the areas between 60 km/h to 120 km/h and 220 km/h to 240. Has anyone experienced anything like this or any ideas? If it was a burnt bulb, I would have expected losing a section in both the scales. TIA, Steve

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#9. Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? - from Chris Teague
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:54:32 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? Marco, It does seem like a lot of effort for not that much gain. But see page 28 of the Mat 2006 Car and Driver. 302 HP and 295 ft-lbs of torque from a twin-turbo 3.0L. 47 more HP and 75 ft-lbs more torque than a 330i. Chris ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:46:47 -0700 > From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? > > 300hp 3L twin turbo? that can't be right. what's the point? > > Marco

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#10. Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? - from Scott McClung
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:42:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? It is a low boost application. Seems pretty mundane in a world where Accords get 260hp, Rav4's get 270hp, G35's get 298hp and IS350's get 306hp - all from NA V6's that get upper 20's highway mpg. Chris Teague <cteague@cox.net> wrote: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:54:32 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" Subject: Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? Marco, It does seem like a lot of effort for not that much gain. But see page 28 of the Mat 2006 Car and Driver. 302 HP and 295 ft-lbs of torque from a twin-turbo 3.0L. 47 more HP and 75 ft-lbs more torque than a 330i. Chris ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:46:47 -0700 > From: "Marco" > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] E90 M3; V8 or TT I6? TT for E36? > > 300hp 3L twin turbo? that can't be right. what's the point? > > Marco ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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