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#1. JT-Designs undertray - from Alex Demsky
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:43:03 -0400 From: "Alex Demsky" <hyper_m3@hotmail.com> Subject: JT-Designs undertray Hey all, Just received mine today after many frustrating times of fixing the lamb chops. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had a DIY with pictures on the install of this. The included instructions are nothing less than Japanese. If nobody has done this then it looks like Ill do one. Alex "HyperM3" Demsky 04.5 A4 1.8TQ6US ~ http://hometown.aol.com/hyperm3/AudiA4.html 97 S/C M3 ~ http://hometown.aol.com/hyperm3/Bimmer.html "I think your car is broken, the driver doesn't seem to be working properly"
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Short shifter noise & vibration - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:43:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Short shifter noise & vibration On Tue, April 11, 2006 7:10 am, Peter Fry said: > 3. Replace the AS shifter with another SSK, > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Like a list sponsor's SSK? :-) I have RE SSKs in both cars. No buzzing or vibration in the M3 (the race car, well, the whole damn car buzzes & vibrates :-) ). My 2 cents, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP - occasional support from RE (that's a disclaimer :-))
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Sunroof Weight? - from Scott Stiles
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:44:43 -0700 From: "Scott Stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Sunroof Weight? Just out of curiosity, is the requirement to be as this exact car was delivered from the factory, or how a car could truly be optioned for delivery in the US? In other words, if one were to replace their roof skin and the headliner duplicating a no-roof car, wouldn't it be "as delivered (to someone) from the factory"? Can headliners be sourced? Thanks, Scott. -----Original Message----- From: Ahmad Lutfeali [mailto:m3_racer99@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:40 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Sunroof Weight? Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:31:38 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Sunroof Weight? Tom, You were right. Thanks for the pointer and saving me the work ;) A.L. _____ From: Tom Melton [mailto:Tom.Melton@emoryhealthcare.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:21 AM To: E36M3@bmw-m.net; Ahmad Lutfeali Subject: RE: [E36M3] Sunroof Weight? Ahmad, In my reading under stock class: 7. Body/Chassis/Interior H. Interiors, with the exception of rear seats and the panels affected by the installation of the roll cage, must be intact. A passenger seat is required. The passenger seat must either be a stock seat or meet the same requirements as the driver's seat. Headliners must remain in place. I would read this to say on a stock class car, the sunroof mechanism has to stay in place. IE - it is not stated that it can be removed. And further for prepared class: 7. Body/Chassis/Interior C. Interior may be removed, except dash and door panels, providing the car "conforms to the spirit" of the BMW CCA Club Racing Program, i.e., it is aesthetically pleasing. <snip> D. The "interior" is defined to include carpeting, seats, headliner, sounddeadening materials, trim panels, console, entertainment and navigation systems, speakers, sun visors, door mechanisms and the sunroof mechanism. If the sunroof mechanism is removed, the panel must either be securely sealed (bolted/welded/bonded) or secured in place with two retaining straps 1 inch wide and extending 3 inches beyond the sunroof opening on each side. The panel must be flush with the roofline. The sunroof panel must be of the same materials as originally manufactured in Prepared. If the original panel was made of glass, an alternate panel of metal must be installed. So, again - it looks like you are stuck with the entire sunroof assembly as installed in your car from the factory. -Tom >>> "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> 4/11/2006 11:04:35 am >>> Tom, It says I need to keep the head liner in place. My current cassette is broken and the sunroof flaps around. I had to put a racer's tape around the outside to make it not rattle/whistle at high speeds. I was thinking about removing the gunk up to and welding the damn thing shut. And for the weight loss, throw in a "Cool Suit" instead ;) Ahmad _____ From: Tom Melton [mailto:Tom.Melton@emoryhealthcare.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:49 AM To: E36M3@bmw-m.net; Ahmad Lutfeali Subject: Re: [E36M3] Sunroof Weight? Ahmad, I have the cassette (complete) in the basement, I can weigh it. The only thing missing from the assembly is the metal outer skin. I think the metal skin was 3-5 pounds, but you would have to keep that anyway... Is removing the sunroof assembly legal in stock? I would think not, but have not read the rules for that item. -Tom >>> "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> 4/11/2006 10:30:29 am >>> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:21:35 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Sunroof Weight? Since we are discussing weight loss here, Does anyone know how much the entire sunroof assembly weigh? For a credible source I have heard the cassette is about 3-4 lbs and the motor being about a pound or two. Back when the Bimmerforums 'search' was working, I had seen people post its worth about 40lbs total. At present the sunroof is not functional in my car (broken cassette) and if I could remove the darn weight that high, I would. The problem is, I would have to remove the cage to do it PITA :( If its only a couple of pounds, I may not bother. Anyone else with some feedback on sunroof weight? (mine is a 1998 model). Thanks, Ahmad ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#4. Rear rotors - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:08:07 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: Rear rotors <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=windows-1250"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 6.5.7638.1"> <TITLE>Rear rotors</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <!-- Converted from text/rtf format --> <P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">I need new rotors for the back of my 2000 M Roadster. Looking at</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> HYPERLINK "htt</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">p://www.realoem.com"</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><U> <FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> HYPERLINK "<A HREF="http://www.realoem.com">http://www.realoem.com</A>"</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><U></U></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><U> <FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">www.realoem.com</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> it looks like there are left and right rotors. What is the difference? Just about every aftermarket rotor I’ve found show just one part #. I’d hate to pay $130 or more for OEM rotors.</FONT></SPAN></P> <P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">TIA!</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN></P> <P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><A NAME=""><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Paul L Fisher</FONT></SPAN></A></P> <P ALIGN=LEFT><B><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52</FONT></SPAN></B></P> <P ALIGN=LEFT><B><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU</FONT></SPAN></B></P> <P ALIGN=LEFT><B><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">1989 325ix E30 M20</FONT></SPAN></B><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN></P> <BR> <P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT COLOR="#000080" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Elkhorn, WI.</FONT></SPAN></P> <P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN></P> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"> </SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> </SPAN></P> <BR> <P><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Times New Roman">--<BR> No virus found in this outgoing message.<BR> Checked by AVG Free Edition.<BR> Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/307 - Release Date: 4/10/2006<BR> </FONT> </SPAN> </P> </BODY> </HTML>
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Sunroof Weight? - from Hunt Hodgetts
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:11:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Hunt Hodgetts <hhodgetts@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Sunroof Weight? I have two sunroof assemblies in my storage room (one black, one green). They weigh approximately 40 pounds each. If I get a chance to go over there in the next day or two, I will get you the exact weight. I have also given some thought to replacing the sunroof assembly with a carbon fiber or fiberglass lightweight roof. It's definitely the worst place in the vehicle to have extra weight. If anyone ever figures out a way to make an inexpensive replacement sunroof, please let me know. Hunt Hodgetts, Atlanta
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#6. RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions - from Mike Frank
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:18:22 -0400 From: "Mike Frank" <mfrank28@insightbb.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions Ahmad, Will do. Spring pads should be here tomorrow. I'll let you know how it turns out. If the front Group G springs were slightly longer with roughly the same rate I'd give them a try; but I agree with you that I don't really need them. Thanks, Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Ahmad Lutfeali [mailto:m3_racer99@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:25 PM > To: mfrank28@insightbb.com; 'E36M3' > Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions > > Mike, > > I went to their website and got their number, called them up and insisted > I > speak to Roland. > > Just raise the height and give it a shot. With 2 Nine MM spring pads, you > should be all set :) I would have kept those springs if I were running > Konis, but with the stock Bilstiens, they were horrible (under damped-pogo > stick feeling). > > The next upgrade would be to use Turner Group G springs (which I have > along > with matching Bilsteins). I think you can run these springs as well with > your Konis but there is not need for it (IMO) since all you need more > height. > > Ahmad
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#7. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear rotors - from Marco
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:18:45 -0700 From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear rotors Rear rotorsif they are vented the vents are directional and need to be on the correct side. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Paul L Fisher [mailto:bmw@paul-fisher.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:10 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear rotors Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:08:07 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" Subject: Rear rotors I need new rotors for the back of my 2000 M Roadster. Looking at HYPERLINK "http://www.realoem.com" HYPERLINK "http://www.realoem.com" www.realoem.com it looks like there are left and right rotors. What is the difference? Just about every aftermarket rotor I’ve found show just one part #. I’d hate to pay $130 or more for OEM rotors. TIA! Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU 1989 325ix E30 M20 Elkhorn, WI. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/307 - Release Date: 4/10/2006 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#8. RE: [E36M3] JT-Designs undertray - from Alexander Fadeev
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:25:06 -0400 From: "Alexander Fadeev" <afadeev@smu.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] JT-Designs undertray Alex Demsky [mailto:hyper_m3@hotmail.com] wrote: > > Hey all, > Just received mine today after many frustrating times of > fixing the lamb chops. Good choice. > Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had > a DIY with pictures on the install of this. The included > instructions are nothing less than Japanese. > If nobody has done this then it looks like Ill do one. Bolt the sucker up on the floor of your room. There is only one way for the parts to fit together. Then it becomes brain-dead obvious how to it fits on the car. Extra advise: consider adding a few attachment points to the front lip/bumper. HTH, alex f
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#9. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear rotors - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:27:35 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear rotors OK. Makes sense. They are vented. I wonder what direction the vanes of the ‘generic’ rotors go? Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU 1989 325ix E30 M20 Elkhorn, WI. _____ From: Marco [mailto:m3driver@iname.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:19 PM To: Paul L Fisher; E36M3 Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear rotors if they are vented the vents are directional and need to be on the correct side. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Paul L Fisher [mailto:bmw@paul-fisher.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:10 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear rotors Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:08:07 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" Subject: Rear rotors I need new rotors for the back of my 2000 M Roadster. Looking at HYPERLINK "http://www.realoem.com" HYPERLINK "HYPERLINK "http://www.realoem.com"http://www.realoem.com" www.realoem.com it looks like there are left and right rotors. What is the difference? Just about every aftermarket rotor I’ve found show just one part #. I’d hate to pay $130 or more for OEM rotors. TIA! Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU 1989 325ix E30 M20 Elkhorn, WI. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/307 - Release Date: 4/10/2006 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/307 - Release Date: 4/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/307 - Release Date: 4/10/2006
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#10. RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:39:10 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions Mike, Good luck and please let us know what you find. Regarding the Group G's height, don't be fooled (I am sending you a comparison picture which wont make it to the list but if any list member would like to see the comparison between Group G and Race front and rear side by side, send me an email) by just looking at them. Group G fronts while being shorter than the Race will sit HIGHER since they are super stiff; Almost a full inch if not more when settled compared to the H&R Race. I do not have a spring pad on my present Group G and the ride height is comparable to my Eibachs (which I previously had). Ahmad -----Original Message----- From: Mike Frank [mailto:mfrank28@insightbb.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:18 PM To: 'Ahmad Lutfeali'; 'E36M3' Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions Ahmad, Will do. Spring pads should be here tomorrow. I'll let you know how it turns out. If the front Group G springs were slightly longer with roughly the same rate I'd give them a try; but I agree with you that I don't really need them. Thanks, Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Ahmad Lutfeali [mailto:m3_racer99@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:25 PM > To: mfrank28@insightbb.com; 'E36M3' > Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions > > Mike, > > I went to their website and got their number, called them up and > insisted I speak to Roland. > > Just raise the height and give it a shot. With 2 Nine MM spring pads, > you should be all set :) I would have kept those springs if I were > running Konis, but with the stock Bilstiens, they were horrible (under > damped-pogo stick feeling). > > The next upgrade would be to use Turner Group G springs (which I have > along with matching Bilsteins). I think you can run these springs as > well with your Konis but there is not need for it (IMO) since all you > need more height. > > Ahmad