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#1. Re: [E36M3] JT-Designs undertray - from Zack Steinkamp
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:50:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] JT-Designs undertray --- Alex Demsky <hyper_m3@hotmail.com> wrote: > Just received mine today after many frustrating times of fixing the > lamb chops. Were the lamb chops the replacement for pork chops in the lesser-known "Kosher" option package? ;-) It's a good thing the car is spec'd with synthetic oil -- wouldn't want to double-dip the dinosaurs. mazeltov! -zs
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#2. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear rotors - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:16:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear rotors On Tue, April 11, 2006 11:30 am, Paul L Fisher said: > OK. Makes sense. They are vented. I wonder what direction the vanes of the > ‘generic’ rotors go? Curved vanes on any vented rotor should be installed so as to "fling" the air out of the rotors, rather than "scoop" air into them. Also, BMW part numbers are such that parts ending in an even number go on the right side of the car, odd on the left (as determined by sitting in the vehicle, facing forward). Hope that helps, Jim Bassett
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#3. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear rotors - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:23:52 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear rotors That is a good tip. I need to check my front rotors to make sure I put them back on the correct side when I changed the pads. I had the rotors cut and can't remember if I paid attention. Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU 1989 325ix E30 M20 Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:16 PM To: Paul L Fisher Cc: E36M3 Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear rotors On Tue, April 11, 2006 11:30 am, Paul L Fisher said: > OK. Makes sense. They are vented. I wonder what direction the vanes of the > ‘generic’ rotors go? Curved vanes on any vented rotor should be installed so as to "fling" the air out of the rotors, rather than "scoop" air into them. Also, BMW part numbers are such that parts ending in an even number go on the right side of the car, odd on the left (as determined by sitting in the vehicle, facing forward). Hope that helps, Jim Bassett -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/307 - Release Date: 4/10/2006
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#4. RE: [E36M3] Sunroof Weight? - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:35:02 -0400 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Sunroof Weight? >In other words, if one were to replace their roof skin and the headliner >duplicating a no-roof car, wouldn't it be "as delivered (to someone) from >the factory"? Sort of but not really. If someone were to run your VIN it will list what options your car came with, I think either ASAP or DCS can find this info (dealership tools), so they'd know that the car's sheetmetal was altered at some point. I used them once to find info on an E36 I was interested in buying that was a race car and had no carfax history and had never been registered. -Carlos.
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#5. RE: Rear Rotors - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 12:54:24 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Rear Rotors They are vented and they all are directional. Designed to draw air from the center of the wheel as the spin - OE, OEM and aftermarket - all of them. Just like the fronts. KLBurgess -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:27:35 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear rotors OK. Makes sense. They are vented. I wonder what direction the vanes of the 'generic' rotors go? - Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Elkhorn, WI. _____ From: Marco [mailto:m3driver@iname.com] Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear rotors If they are vented the vents are directional and need to be on the correct side. Marco -----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:08:07 -0500 Subject: Rear rotors I need new rotors for the back of my 2000 M Roadster. Looking at "http://www.realoem.com" it looks like there are left and right rotors. What is the difference? Just about every aftermarket rotor I've found show just one part #. I'd hate to pay $130 or more for OEM rotors. TIA! Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Elkhorn, WI.
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#6. RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions - from Mike Frank
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:59:43 -0400 From: "Mike Frank" <mfrank28@insightbb.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions Ahmad, Thanks for the pic. Very interesting. What are rates on the Group G springs? Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Ahmad Lutfeali [mailto:m3_racer99@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:39 PM > To: mfrank28@insightbb.com; 'E36M3' > Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions > > Mike, > > Good luck and please let us know what you find. > > Regarding the Group G's height, don't be fooled (I am sending you a > comparison picture which wont make it to the list but if any list member > would like to see the comparison between Group G and Race front and rear > side by side, send me an email) by just looking at them. Group G fronts > while being shorter than the Race will sit HIGHER since they are super > stiff; Almost a full inch if not more when settled compared to the H&R > Race. > I do not have a spring pad on my present Group G and the ride height is > comparable to my Eibachs (which I previously had). > > Ahmad
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#7. RE: Rear Rotors - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:01:03 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: Rear Rotors What I'm saying is that the Wagner brand rotors have one part # for the rear so either the vanes are 'straight' or they only sell one side. Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU 1989 325ix E30 M20 Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Burgess, Kim L [mailto:kim.l.burgess@boeing.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:54 PM To: E36M3 Cc: bmw@paul-fisher.com Subject: RE: Rear Rotors They are vented and they all are directional. Designed to draw air from the center of the wheel as the spin - OE, OEM and aftermarket - all of them. Just like the fronts. KLBurgess -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:27:35 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear rotors OK. Makes sense. They are vented. I wonder what direction the vanes of the 'generic' rotors go? - Paul L Fisher 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Elkhorn, WI. _____ From: Marco [mailto:m3driver@iname.com] Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear rotors If they are vented the vents are directional and need to be on the correct side. Marco -----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:08:07 -0500 Subject: Rear rotors I need new rotors for the back of my 2000 M Roadster. Looking at "http://www.realoem.com" it looks like there are left and right rotors. What is the difference? Just about every aftermarket rotor I've found show just one part #. I'd hate to pay $130 or more for OEM rotors. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/307 - Release Date: 4/10/2006
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#8. RE: JT-Designs undertray - from Lawrence Barbieri
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:01:52 -0400 From: "Lawrence Barbieri" <larry@logicalconclusions.com> Subject: RE: JT-Designs undertray Alex, I've done this, however, no pictures. One additional bit of advice. Reinforce the plastic lip of the fender liner that all the screws pass through. I used some roof flashing and pop rivets. Cut the flashing at least twice as wide as the fender lip. Lay the flasing on the upper surface of the lip and use a Sharpie pen to trace the shape of the lip on the flashing. Fold the flashing on that line around the lip and do any trimming needed. You'll now have the plastic fender liner lip sandwiched between the flashing. Now drill some holes (I used 3) through the flashing and the plastic lip and put in the pop rivets. Then you'll need to drill additional hole for the JT underpanel (make sure you didn't put the rivets in the way of the JT holes). You can lose the pork chops as well. I haven't tossed mine yet, but the are just more trouble than they are worth and really they are pretty worthless. I'm just waiting for the next time I have to be under there to cut them out and toss them. I also considered using something more substantial than flashing. I saw at Home Depot yesterday that they carry 1/8" aluminum stock that would have been perfect. It would be cool to rivet that on top of the fender lip and then drill holes that could be tapped. Then the JT panel could be screwed directly to that. That would really make removal a snap for future belt and radiator work under there. Have fun! Larry > Hey all, > Just received mine today after many frustrating times of fixing the lamb > chops. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had a DIY with pictures on the > install of this. The included instructions are nothing less than > Japanese. > If nobody has done this then it looks like Ill do one. > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/308 - Release Date: 4/11/2006
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#9. Re: [E36M3] RE: Rear Rotors - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:19:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Rear Rotors On Tue, April 11, 2006 1:10 pm, Paul L Fisher said: > What I'm saying is that the Wagner brand rotors have one part # for the > rear > so either the vanes are 'straight' or they only sell one side. Quite possible they are straight-vane rotors, in which case they're the same L & R. FWIW, the E46 328 rear rotors I use on the race car are straight-vaned. Jim Bassett
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#10. RE: Looking for front spring suggestions - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:35:15 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Looking for front spring suggestions Carlos, You were right on the front being higher. I made a typo. Just like a typical man, I cannot multi-task. Either that, or the coffee didn't kick in when I wrote this. BTW, where do you measure the height? I know its not the wheel well for sure. I was told to measure it off the jack mounting points (rubber). Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks. Ahmad ------------------- 5 -------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:55:13 -0400 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions > Rake on these cars are VERY essential and you should run .75inches > lower in the > front than in the rear. Ahmad, I would agree with the number but where did you get that info? I disagree that the front should be lower than the rear. I looked up the ride heights on the Bentley as my roommate's E36 that I borrowed for an event at Mid-Ohio had the front lower than the rear so I just wanted to confirm that the front is always supposed to be *higher* than the rear. The figures in the Bentley are in mm but I would agree that approx. ..75 inches in rake is about the right number. His car was on coilovers in the front and was poorly adjusted by a shop here in Detroit and had the front adjusted way too low compared to the rear ride height. -Carlos.