E36M3 #4727

Tuesday, April 11, 2006 23:41:27

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#1. RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions - from Ahmad Lutfeali
#2. RE: Rear Rotors - from Burgess, Kim L
#3. RE:Sunroof (Shipping) Weight? NOW : WTB - Sunroof Mechanism - from Jonathan Evans
#4. Which Brand - Conclusion / OT Google Searching - from Stefano G
#5. Re: JTD UNDERTRAY - from jmihal@jt-designs.com
#6. the Sunroof assembly weighs 32 lbs - from Hunt Hodgetts
#7. Re: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions - from Zack Steinkamp
#8. Re: [E36M3] RE:Sunroof (Shipping) Weight? NOW : WTB - Sunroof Mechanism - from Dave Thomas
#9. Re: [E36M3] Short shifter noise & vibration - from Dave Swingle
#10. Re: Rear Seat Weight? - from kim.burgess@att.net

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#1. RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:43:01 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions Mike, The fronts are 700lbs and the rears are 800lbs. Ahmad -----Original Message----- From: Mike Frank [mailto:mfrank28@insightbb.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:00 PM To: 'Ahmad Lutfeali'; 'E36M3' Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions Ahmad, Thanks for the pic. Very interesting. What are rates on the Group G springs? Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Ahmad Lutfeali [mailto:m3_racer99@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:39 PM > To: mfrank28@insightbb.com; 'E36M3' > Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions > > Mike, > > Good luck and please let us know what you find. > > Regarding the Group G's height, don't be fooled (I am sending you a > comparison picture which wont make it to the list but if any list > member would like to see the comparison between Group G and Race front > and rear side by side, send me an email) by just looking at them. > Group G fronts while being shorter than the Race will sit HIGHER since > they are super stiff; Almost a full inch if not more when settled > compared to the H&R Race. > I do not have a spring pad on my present Group G and the ride height > is comparable to my Eibachs (which I previously had). > > Ahmad

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#2. RE:  Rear Rotors - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:58:55 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Rear Rotors Your right. I went to https://www.rockauto.com/ and looked up rotors for a 97 E36M3. Wagner lists one part number, while others list LH and RH parts. Interesting, no wonder why they are charging $40. KLB -------------------- 7 -------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:01:03 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: Rear Rotors What I'm saying is that the Wagner brand rotors have one part # for the rear so either the vanes are 'straight' or they only sell one side. Paul L Fisher - 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU 1989 325ix E30 M20 Elkhorn, WI.

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#3. RE:Sunroof (Shipping) Weight? NOW : WTB - Sunroof Mechanism - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:14:05 +0000 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: RE:Sunroof (Shipping) Weight? NOW : WTB - Sunroof Mechanism Well, with all this talk of extra sunroofs mechanisms laying around I got to thinking it may be a buyers market. My sunroof has had the inner sliding headliner/panel broken for about 5 years (livable, but moves fore and aft with a bang). And now the roof refuses to budge unless the switch is depressed WHILE banging a fist next to it. Difficult to say the least while driving on the interstate. So, anyone willing to part with a WORKING sunroof unit? Switch, motor, slides, headliner panel sliding thingy assembly. I guess everything but the metal painted skin (or with, I can take off). I can even ship mine back if you want to weld it in for club racing Shipping to 27713. I have a 2 door '95 in Helrot Red with black leather/cloth. Heck, I'd even take a gray or tan headliner. She ain't no concourse winner. Thanks, -Jonathan Evans

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#4. Which Brand - Conclusion / OT Google Searching - from Stefano G
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:25:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stefano G" <stefanoale@excite.com> Subject: Which Brand - Conclusion / OT Google Searching Thanks everyone for your feedback. Given the general response I ended up getting the Lemfoerder ones from our sponsor bimmerworld for $65 a piece + shipping. Thanks again Stefano '98 m3 with funny steering waiting to be taken care of... P.S. On a different note I read a few emails about google searching so check this out http://www.google.com/help/basics.html _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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#5. Re: JTD UNDERTRAY - from jmihal@jt-designs.com
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 14:44:23 -0700 (PDT) From: <jmihal@jt-designs.com> Subject: Re: JTD UNDERTRAY Maybe in "Chinese", as they were written by JAP! If you have any questions, please call me at 760-644-3410 and I will be happy to waly you throuth the install step by step. Best, Jim Mihal JTD > Hey all, > Just received mine today after many frustrating times of fixing the lamb > chops. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had a DIY with pictures on the > install of this. The included instructions are nothing less than > Japanese. > If nobody has done this then it looks like Ill do one.

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#6. the Sunroof assembly weighs 32 lbs - from Hunt Hodgetts
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:08:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Hunt Hodgetts <hhodgetts@yahoo.com> Subject: the Sunroof assembly weighs 32 lbs I was able to go by my storage room today and weigh the sunroof assembly. It weighs 32 pounds. Hunt Hodgetts, Atlanta

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#7. Re: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions - from Zack Steinkamp
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:41:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions A common method of measuring ride height is to measure from the center of the wheel straight up to the fender lip. A flexible tape measure or piece of string and a big contractor's square are handy tools for doing this. -zs --- Ahmad Lutfeali <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:35:15 -0400 > From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> > Subject: RE: Looking for front spring suggestions > > > > > Carlos, > > You were right on the front being higher. I made a typo. Just like a > typical > man, I cannot multi-task. Either that, or the coffee didn't kick in > when I > wrote this. > > BTW, where do you measure the height? I know its not the wheel well > for > sure. I was told to measure it off the jack mounting points (rubber). > Please > correct me if I am wrong. Thanks. > > Ahmad > > ------------------- 5 -------------------- > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:55:13 -0400 > From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com > Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Looking for front spring suggestions > > > Rake on these cars are VERY essential and you should run .75inches > > lower > in the > > front than in the rear. > > Ahmad, I would agree with the number but where did you get that info? > I > disagree that the front should be lower than the rear. > > I looked up the ride heights on the Bentley as my roommate's E36 that > I > borrowed for an event at Mid-Ohio had the front lower than the rear > so I > just wanted to confirm that the front is always supposed to be > *higher* than > the rear. The figures in the Bentley are in mm but I would agree > that > approx. > .75 inches in rake is about the right number. His car was on > coilovers in > the front and was poorly adjusted by a shop here in Detroit and had > the > front adjusted way too low compared to the rear ride height. > > -Carlos. > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#8. Re: [E36M3] RE:Sunroof (Shipping) Weight? NOW : WTB - Sunroof Mechanism - from Dave Thomas
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:31:50 -0700 From: Dave Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE:Sunroof (Shipping) Weight? NOW : WTB - Sunroof Mechanism On Tuesday 11 April 2006 2:20 pm, Jonathan Evans wrote: > to thinking it may be a buyers market. My sunroof has had the inner > sliding headliner/panel broken for about 5 years (livable, but moves fore > and aft with a bang). And now the roof refuses to budge unless the switch > is depressed WHILE banging a fist next to it. Difficult to say the least > while driving on the interstate. I have the same situation. Does anyone know what fails that causes this condition? I would either like to get a good cassette and swap mine out or just purchase all the parts that are failure items on the unit and have them at the ready. Since I got the M3 I don't care to drive my other cars very much so avoiding downtime is important to me ;-) Dave T.

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Short shifter noise & vibration - from Dave Swingle
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 22:38:35 -0500 From: "Dave Swingle" <swingle@dmcnews.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Short shifter noise & vibration I have the same issue with the A/S shifter in my wife's E39 530i. The UUC shifter in her prior E39 didn't have the problem, nor does the UUC in my E36 M3. I think its caused by the more solid mount at the transmission end of the A/S shifter (the round looking thing that attaches to the trans). I hope you still have your original shifter parts, I don't think the UUC shifter will work with the A/S main rod, and if it does fit the vibration will still be there. Dave Swingle -------------------- 5 -------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 8:06:35 -0600 From: Peter Fry <PeterFry@aol.com> Subject: Short shifter noise & vibration M3 gang- Need you collective advice. I had an AutoSolutions Ultimate Short Shifter installed in my 99 M3 a few weeks ago. Love the precision. Hate the buzzing vibration I'm getting from the shifter above 4k rpm in 2nd, 3rd & 4th gear. I used to love the sounds in that rpm range, now it sounds coarse & unbalanced. Ronald, who seems to own AS, says he's never had complaints of this type, and has another kit on the way. Now, the shop that installed the kit wants to tell me that everything is fine, and replacing one AS shifter with another won't fix the problem. Here's how I see my options: 1. Live with the noise (unacceptable) 2. Replace the shifter with another AS one (probably cost me a couple of hrs labor) that may not fix the problem. 3. Replace the AS shifter with another SSK, like UUC's, since I'm already paying labor. I'm pretty sure AS will take the old kit back. 4. Just go back to stock, replacing as many old bushings as possible in the process. I know I liked the sound then. Please share your opinions of my options andy our experience with various SSKs re: shift feel and especially noise. Thanks in advance ___ Peter Fry Red/Magma 99 M3 Sharked w/CAI Bilsteins, X-brace noisy AutoSolutions SSK

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#10. Re: Rear Seat Weight? - from kim.burgess@att.net
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 04:33:27 +0000 From: kim.burgess@att.net Subject: Re: Rear Seat Weight? Sorry I did not weigh the seat hardware as it is still in the car. KLB ---- Original message from "Jack - Elephant Motorsports" Did you include the seat belt receptacles and the hardware with them? That's another couple pounds anyway. Plus the "T" pieces that the folding seat backs connect to are easily removable. Between all the loose hardware and seat belt stuff (not attached to the seats), that's another 4-5 lbs for sure. I just removed all of this stuff from a customer car, a good weight savings for sure! Jack Money - Elephant Motorsports http://www.elephantmotortsports.com On 4/11/06, kim.burgess@att.net Subject: Re: Rear Seat Weight? Seat back side bolsters 3 lbs each (6 lbs) Fold-down seat backs 16 lbs each (32 lbs) Seat base 13 lbs all weighed on a bathroom scale - KLBurgess -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:45:40 -0700 From: "twisty M3" < twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Rear Seat Weight? <snip> Anyone know what the total weight of seat bottoms, fold down portions and side bolsters would come to? Is there a pre-fabricated, carpeted piece that can be purchased to utilize that might still fold down or at least be somewhat easily removed when storage space is needed? Thanks! Jonathan L.

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