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#1. Power Steering Filter - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:05:46 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: Power Steering Filter Yes, there is absolutely a filter in there: http://www.318ti.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=928&cat=531 I can get OE BMW (ZF) reservoirs for around $25 each (BMW list is $41.25). RealOEM prices are not US prices, the file that site used to determine their prices was an older price file from Germany denominated originally in euros so it bears very little resemblance to US dealer prices for a variety of reasons. I have found examples where the price was grossly overstated as well as grossly understated. Regards, Rich From: "Mike Frank" <mfrank28@insightbb.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Power Steering Refresh > > Larry, > > Just to double check, are you sure there's a filter at the bottom? I > looked > at one today at the stealer and there's an interesting circular piece at > the > bottom, but nothing that looked like a filter. Parts guys couldn't > confirm > that there was a filter inside either. > > Also, they quoted me the GTH Price of ~$70, which is strange because they > give me everything else at ~%10-20 off list, depending on who I talk > to. On > realoem.com it's $42.69. > > Thanks, > > Mike
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#2. RE: Best current source for floating rotors - from Lawrence Barbieri
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:12:31 -0400 From: "Lawrence Barbieri" <larry@logicalconclusions.com> Subject: RE: Best current source for floating rotors Mike, Yep. The Pacific site is a little user hostile. Here's how to find them. Go to: http://www.pacificbmw.com/ Click "Parts" in the bar just under the Pacific BMW at the top of the page. Under that bar click "Parts & Accessories" Then you get to select your car, Seties, Body Style, Body Type, Model, Year After that you'll see a list of parts. There will be 3 tabs at the top the list: Accessories, Wheels, Parts Click on the Parts tab Then click on the Front Rotors item. Bingo! You've found it. Think of it as a mine Easter Egg hunt. ;-) Larry > Larry, > > Was that recently? I couldn't find them on their site. If you > have a link > that would be great. > > Thanks, > > Mike > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/310 - Release Date: 4/12/2006
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#3. RE: Power Steering Refresh - from Lawrence Barbieri
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:26:31 -0400 From: "Lawrence Barbieri" <larry@logicalconclusions.com> Subject: RE: Power Steering Refresh Mike, Yep, I'm sure the filter is there. I checked with my tech and he confirmed. Check http://www.egermanparts.com/ You can get the ZF reservoir for $25 and the cap for $7. You might find it cheaper, but I've had good luck with these guys and if you order over $75 shipping is free. So, if you need other stuff maybe you get your order up to that level. Larry > Larry, > > Just to double check, are you sure there's a filter at the > bottom? I looked > at one today at the stealer and there's an interesting circular > piece at the > bottom, but nothing that looked like a filter. Parts guys > couldn't confirm > that there was a filter inside either. > > Also, they quoted me the GTH Price of ~$70, which is strange because they > give me everything else at ~%10-20 off list, depending on who I > talk to. On > realoem.com it's $42.69. > > Thanks, > > Mike -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/310 - Release Date: 4/12/2006
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#4. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating rotors (repeat for sure)? - from jeremy.conners@comcast.net
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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:25:55 +0000 From: jeremy.conners@comcast.net Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating rotors (repeat for sure)? There are thickness and lifetimes specifications stated for the euro rotors. Anyone out there understand finite endurance lifetimes with regard to non-ferrous metals... Say it with me: All NON-ferrous metals ALWAYS have a FINITE endurance lifetime!!! ALL!!! Jeremy -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:47:14 -0700 > From: "Marco" > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating rotors > (repeat for sure)? > > my contribution to this urban lore is that in Germany where the rules for > running garbage on the road are a bit more strict a car would not run on the > road with cracks in the rotors so the chances of the things flying apart are > lessened. > > Here in the states where most consumers thing brake rotors should last > twenty years BMW went with the safer route. > > having said that, I toss my rotors as soon as any cracks are longer than > 1/2". > > and brembos work just fine. > > Marco > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Ruiz [mailto:eurowerke@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:40 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating rotors > (repeat for sure)? > > > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:39:36 -0700 > From: "Brian Ruiz" > Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating rotors (repeat for > sure)? > > Exploding rotor? Possibly just a coincidence with that particular rotor. > Regarding approval, it all seems weird to me, considering the Euro market > seems to be considered more of a "heavy-duty" market, where the cars are > subject to more high speed stress, etc, compared to the US. For them to be > approved by the TUV (which I assume is true if the rotor is used on cars in > Germany), and from what I have heard about TUV's standards being a bit more > stringent than the DOT, that seems odd that they weren't allowed by default > in the US. > > Brian > build 8/95 > > On 4/13/06, dhogg wrote: > > > > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:01:06 -0400 > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating rotors (repeat > > for sure)? > > > > I agree that basic Brembo's are the way to go. They're on my race car and > > the street car. > > > > I know that others disagree with me, but after seeing a floating rotor > > explode at VIR last year on an IS car, I wouldn't have 'em. This is why > > the > > US attorneys disallowed them on US-delivery M3's. The hat's attachment to > > the main rotor is a weak point IMHO (and according to the BMW NA legal > > department). > > > > Dave Hogg > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating rotors (repeat for sure)? - from Marco
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:40:30 -0700 From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating rotors (repeat for sure)? so are you saying that as long as the rotor has sufficient thickness the length of cracks in it doesn't matter? I hope that's not what you mean. I think you are trying to make a point that rotors are consumables? no? Probably most on this list agree. But the majority of people in the US that buy cars get pretty upset when they have to buy rotors every few years. Just read the moronic letters in the roundel to get proof. And aren't brake rotors made of ferrous metals? I'm pretty sure mine aren't made of copper or aluminum. Marco -----Original Message----- From: jeremy.conners@comcast.net [mailto:jeremy.conners@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:26 PM To: Marco; E36M3 Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating rotors (repeat for sure)? There are thickness and lifetimes specifications stated for the euro rotors. Anyone out there understand finite endurance lifetimes with regard to non-ferrous metals... Say it with me: All NON-ferrous metals ALWAYS have a FINITE endurance lifetime!!! ALL!!! Jeremy -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:47:14 -0700 > From: "Marco" > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating rotors > (repeat for sure)? > > my contribution to this urban lore is that in Germany where the rules for > running garbage on the road are a bit more strict a car would not run on the > road with cracks in the rotors so the chances of the things flying apart are > lessened. > > Here in the states where most consumers thing brake rotors should last > twenty years BMW went with the safer route. > > having said that, I toss my rotors as soon as any cracks are longer than > 1/2". > > and brembos work just fine. > > Marco < BR>> ; > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Ruiz [mailto:eurowerke@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:40 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating rotors > (repeat for sure)? > > > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:39:36 -0700 > From: "Brian Ruiz" > Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating rotors (repeat for > sure)? > > Exploding rotor? Possibly just a coincidence with that particular rotor. > Regarding approval, it all seems weird to me, considering the Euro market > seems to be considered more of a "heavy-duty" market, where the cars are > subject to more high speed stress, etc, compared to the US. For them to be > approved by the TUV (which I assume is true if the rotor is used on cars in > Germany), and from what I have heard about TUV's standards being a bit more > stringent than the DOT, that seems odd that they weren't allowed by default > in the US. > > Brian > build 8/95 > > On 4/13/06, dhogg wrote: > > > > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:01:06 -0400 > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating rotors (repeat > > for sure)? > > > > I agree that basic Brembo's are the way to go. They're on my race car and > > the street car. > > > > I know that others disagree with me, but after seeing a floating rotor > > explode at VIR last year on an IS car, I wouldn't have 'em. This is why > > the > > US attorneys disallowed them on US-delivery M3's. The hat's attachment to > > the main rotor is a weak point IMHO (and according to the BMW NA legal > > department). > > > > Dave Hogg > > > ******************** ****** *********************** > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com & gt; Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#6. RE: [E36M3] RE: Power Steering Refresh - from Patrick Goss - PA
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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 07:53:33 -0500 From: "Patrick Goss - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Power Steering Refresh I picked one up at Zygmunt aka bimmerparts.com yesterday for $25.26, it was a genuine ZF reservoir and included a cap in the package. Patrick -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence Barbieri [mailto:larry@logicalconclusions.com] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:30 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] RE: Power Steering Refresh Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:26:31 -0400 From: "Lawrence Barbieri" <larry@logicalconclusions.com> Subject: RE: Power Steering Refresh Mike, Yep, I'm sure the filter is there. I checked with my tech and he confirmed. Check http://www.egermanparts.com/ You can get the ZF reservoir for $25 and the cap for $7. You might find it cheaper, but I've had good luck with these guys and if you order over $75 shipping is free. So, if you need other stuff maybe you get your order up to that level. Larry > Larry, > > Just to double check, are you sure there's a filter at the > bottom? I looked > at one today at the stealer and there's an interesting circular > piece at the > bottom, but nothing that looked like a filter. Parts guys > couldn't confirm > that there was a filter inside either. > > Also, they quoted me the GTH Price of ~$70, which is strange because they > give me everything else at ~%10-20 off list, depending on who I > talk to. On > realoem.com it's $42.69. > > Thanks, > > Mike -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/310 - Release Date: 4/12/2006 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#7. Re: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating rotors (repeat for sure)? - from Jay Hudson
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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:58:26 -0700 From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating rotors (repeat for sure)? I'm not sure I fully understand his meaning. But, I believe the Euro rotors have aluminum hats. Perhaps that's the non-ferrous he's referring to. Jay > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:40:30 -0700 > From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating rotors (repeat > for sure)? > > > > so are you saying that as long as the rotor has sufficient thickness the > length of cracks in it doesn't matter? I hope that's not what you mean. > > I think you are trying to make a point that rotors are consumables? no? > Probably most on this list agree. But the majority of people in the US > that > buy cars get pretty upset when they have to buy rotors every few years. > Just read the moronic letters in the roundel to get proof. > > And aren't brake rotors made of ferrous metals? I'm pretty sure mine > aren't > made of copper or aluminum. > > Marco > -----Original Message----- > From: jeremy.conners@comcast.net [mailto:jeremy.conners@comcast.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:26 PM > To: Marco; E36M3 > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] RE: Best current source for floating > rotors (repeat for sure)? > > > > There are thickness and lifetimes specifications stated for the euro > rotors. Anyone out there understand finite endurance lifetimes with > regard > to non-ferrous metals... > > Say it with me: All NON-ferrous metals ALWAYS have a FINITE endurance > lifetime!!! ALL!!! > > Jeremy
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#8. Re: [E36M3] RE: Power Steering Refresh - from Jack - Elephant Motorsports
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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:42:45 -0400 From: "Jack - Elephant Motorsports" <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Power Steering Refresh I always stock these as they are becoming a common replacement item for many folks, OEM ZF new w/cap....$21. The nice thing is that it fits a multitude of BMW models (most excluding those with self leveling suspension systems). Jack Money Elephant Motorsports http://www.elephantmotorsports.com On 4/14/06, Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick.Goss@gmacm.com> wrote: > > Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 07:53:33 -0500 > From: "Patrick Goss - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Power Steering Refresh > > I picked one up at Zygmunt aka bimmerparts.com yesterday for $25.26, it > was a genuine ZF reservoir and included a cap in the package. > > Patrick
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Re: JTD UNDERTRAY - from Alex Demsky
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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:24:38 -0400 From: "Alex Demsky" <hyper_m3@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: JTD UNDERTRAY Ok, Im either a moron or overthinking it. I can install a supercharger but I cant put on a stupid piece of metal. So after about 20 minutes of fiddling, I come to think the instructions want that metal center piece to go up above and not below. This confuses me though as it looks like an air defuser. If its above, then its just a flat piece of metal underneath and I cant understand how thats aerodynamic and creates suction. Whereas if the metal piece was down, it would direct airflow below and around. Confused, Alex "HyperM3" Demsky 04.5 A4 1.8TQ6US ~ http://hometown.aol.com/hyperm3/AudiA4.html 97 S/C M3 ~ http://hometown.aol.com/hyperm3/Bimmer.html "I think your car is broken, the driver doesn't seem to be working properly"
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#10. steering racks - repair or replace? - from Dave Thomas
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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:50:21 -0700 From: Dave Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: steering racks - repair or replace? I replaced the tie rods on our '95 M3 yesterday and while checking everything out I noticed that the drivers side of the rack has a bit of play that can be observed with the boot out of the way. It looks like slight vertical movement when someone rocks the steering wheel back and forth. No leaks and otherwise feels very good. The shaft coming out of the rack on the pass side does not have any such symptoms. Question: Are these racks rebuildable or is purchasing a complete rebuilt unit the only option? I have had a few cars that this type of play could be fixed by replacing the bushings on the outside of the rack, but I have never heard of any such fix for a BMW rack. I would really hate for my Koni money to go something as booring as a rebuilt rack ;-) Dave T.