E36M3 #4740

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 14:39:44

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#1. RE: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars (now Porsche story - long) - from Tom, Steven
#2. RE: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars (now Porsche story - long) - from Dave DeBuhr
#3. RE: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars (now Porsche story - long) - from Tom, Steven
#4. need a rearview mirror! - from jrstowe@comcast.net
#5. RE: [E36M3] Pilkington Glass? - from Alan Leung
#6. Re: [E36M3] need a rearview mirror! - from Andrej Dolenc
#7. Fuel Pump Option? - from Ahmad Lutfeali
#8. Re: E-Brake Problem - from Ron & Brenya B.
#9. Re: [E36M3] Fuel Pump Option? - from Doug Wirth
#10. Re: [E36M3] Fuel Pump Option? - from Jim Bassett

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#1. RE: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars   (now Porsche story - long) - from Tom, Steven
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:59:38 -0700 From: "Tom, Steven" <stom@qualcomm.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars (now Porsche story - long) Oopss Also forgot to send pictures of the new ride; http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/6658.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/IMG_6652.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/IMG_6674.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/IMG_6675.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/10186-7-z.jpg Enjoy, steve -----Original Message----- From: Tom, Steven Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 8:51 AM To: 'M540'; E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars (now Porsche story - long) Okay ... you caught me! Sharp eye though it's not a Cayman. I just got an 06' 997S. Yes I made the switch to P-car land sorry to say. The thought process was that my 96' M3 was 10 yrs old w/ 92k on the clock. Fairly low mileage but was going to start needing some work. I tried figuring out what would be the next logical step to another sports car. All of the Japanese rocket stuff was out. I looked at an M5 or the new M6 but didn't want the size or the weight. Audi's are nice but I would never spend the money on one. The new M3 was not coming out for another year. What other choices were there? So I test drove a 997S and Cayman. The Cayman was nice and handled well but speed wise felt exactly like my M3. Understand that I had the Eurosport/JimC Cam Kit w/ 245rwhp. The power build up on the Cayman just felt too similar to my M3. And if I was going to spend that much money on a car, I wanted to be impressed. So I test drove the 997S. Whoa! This thing's a beast! It was very effortless in the way it made power. I honestly was awed and impressed. Handling was quite a bit different and sets up a little funny in corners. I don't imagine myself trail braking all too much anymore but the overall speed at which I can take corners is still greater. So I started looking for a 997S. I ended up picking up a 2006 997S w/ 2500 miles with a ton of options. I also pushed to get the Certified Pre Owned so I can get the 6yr/100k warranty too. I love the car. It also has the PCCB brakes which are huge $$$$ option. The beautiful thing is that the brakes don't dust! So from the PCCB brakes to the leather dash, I love the car. steve -----Original Message----- From: M540 [mailto:m540@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 4:19 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:13:00 -0400 From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> Subject: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars Steve, Is that a Cayman hiding behind your muffler? Are you offering it in a package deal? (Okay, how do you like it?) Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Tom, Steven [mailto:stom@qualcomm.com] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:36 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:27:19 -0700 From: "Tom, Steven" <stom@qualcomm.com> Subject: FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars I just thought I would throw this out there even though it's only stock '96 M3 parts. M3 Exhaust: $125 + shipping. Yes it has the larger tubing. I took it off around 55k miles. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/IMG_6676.jpg M3 Springs and Shocks: $125 + shipping. I replaced these around 40k miles. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/IMG_6679.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/IMG_6678.jpg M3 Sway bars, bushings and links: $75 + shipping. I replaced these at the same time as the suspension. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/IMG_6677.jpg Let me know if you are interested. steve ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#2. RE: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars   (now Porsche story - long) - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:20:12 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars (now Porsche story - long) Very nice ride, Steve! I've been drooling over the new GT3 (but would LOVE to have one like yours, too). http://www.porsche.com/all/originmotorsport/usa.aspx -----Original Message----- From: Tom, Steven [mailto:stom@qualcomm.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:09 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars (now Porsche story - long) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:59:38 -0700 From: "Tom, Steven" <stom@qualcomm.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars (now Porsche story - long) Oopss Also forgot to send pictures of the new ride; http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/6658.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/IMG_6652.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/IMG_6674.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/IMG_6675.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/10186-7-z.jpg Enjoy, steve

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#3. RE: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars   (now Porsche story - long) - from Tom, Steven
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:33:54 -0700 From: "Tom, Steven" <stom@qualcomm.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars (now Porsche story - long) I do like the GT3. A friend of mine has the 996 GT3 and it's amazing. I like the 997 GT3 but for the street version, I would like the standard wing. The bi-plane wing would be a bit much for the street. steve -----Original Message----- From: Dave DeBuhr [mailto:debuhr@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:20 AM To: Tom, Steven; E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars (now Porsche story - long) Very nice ride, Steve! I've been drooling over the new GT3 (but would LOVE to have one like yours, too). http://www.porsche.com/all/originmotorsport/usa.aspx -----Original Message----- From: Tom, Steven [mailto:stom@qualcomm.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:09 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars (now Porsche story - long) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:59:38 -0700 From: "Tom, Steven" <stom@qualcomm.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] FS: 96' M3 Exhaust, Springs/Shocks, Sway Bars (now Porsche story - long) Oopss Also forgot to send pictures of the new ride; http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/6658.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/IMG_6652.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/IMG_6674.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/IMG_6675.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/stom_m3/10186-7-z.jpg Enjoy, steve

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#4. need a rearview mirror! - from jrstowe@comcast.net
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:57:52 +0000 From: jrstowe@comcast.net Subject: need a rearview mirror! Does anyone have a drivers side rearview mirror they would like to get rid of? The motors do not need to be functional. White would be outstanding but any color will do. Actually now that I think about it, I would take a passenger side one as well. jeff 98 M3/4 95 M3

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#5. RE: [E36M3] Pilkington Glass? - from Alan Leung
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:58:34 -0500 From: "Alan Leung" <alanleung100@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Pilkington Glass? Very good experience with Pilkington as replacement glass on my Discovery. Much more crack resistant than stock. Alan > >-------------------- 1 -------------------- >Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 17:00:16 -0700 >From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> >Subject: Pilkington Glass? > >Anyone have experience with this brand of glass? I just had my windshield >replaced by the same company as last time, and that had previously used >PPG, >which seemed more resistant than the Sekurit windshield from the factory. > >I've found that it's an Australian company, but that's about all I've found >so far. > >Doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things... Just curious for the >sake of being curious. ;) > >Jonathan L.

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#6. Re: [E36M3] need a rearview mirror! - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:12:24 -0400 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] need a rearview mirror! I have just the glass portion if that helps you out any. Andrej '97 M3 > Does anyone have a drivers side rearview mirror they would like to get rid > of? The motors do not need to be functional. White would be outstanding > but any color will do. > Actually now that I think about it, I would take a passenger side one as > well. > jeff > 98 M3/4 > 95 M3

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#7. Fuel Pump Option? - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:39:00 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Fuel Pump Option? Its summer time and I have become lazy. That said I don't want to do too much work installing the double fuel pump and want a faster way out. I recall a bunch of folks out there installing the 325i fuel pump to ensure they do not get fuel starvation. I drove a friend's 325i at an Autox with the fuel light on and that thing never skipped a beat. Does anyone know which model year E36 fuel pump can be replaced with ours to make sure the car does not hiccup during high speed/tight right handers? Somehow this was the stage 1 kit which some of the tuners would sell a while back. Thanks, Ahmad

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#8. Re: E-Brake Problem - from Ron & Brenya B.
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:46:03 -0500 From: "Ron & Brenya B." <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: E-Brake Problem Marc, The parking brake system consists of a small 'drum' brake within the center of each rear brake rotor. It is actuated via a cable, which pulls on an expanding lock. The expanding lock pushes the two brake shoes against the drum. See the illustration on realoem.com: http://tinyurl.com/h2e4t The Bentley manual describes a procedure to adjust the parking brakes (pages 340-10 thru 11). The adjustment process consists of performing adjustments at each parking brake, as well as at the cable adjusting nuts on the parking brake lever inside the car. From experience, it is a tedius procedure, but results in a well-adjusted parking brake. With that said, the symptoms you describe sound like your car was driven for a period of time with the parking brake engaged. This happened on my E34 525iT (I'm not sure how the driver ignored the red 'BRAKE' warning light, as well as the CHIME and 'PARKING BRAKE ENGAGED' notices from the OBC, but that's another story...). The parking brake engagement went from ~5 clicks (and solid engagement) to 12+ clicks (lever VERY high), and no parking brake engagement. To confirm the problem, I removed the rear rotors (very easy to do) and visually inspected the parking brake shoes. Both sets of shoes were cracked and disintegrated. The 'drum' center of the rear rotors did not look too bad. I ended up replacing both rear rotors as well as the parking brake shoes, followed the Bentley procedure for adjustment, and now have a parking brake that again engages solidly with four clicks. In answer to your questions, see below. Hope this helps. -rb > -------------------- 3 --------------------> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:28:45 EDT> From: Msebmwman@aol.com> Subject: Do I have an Ebrake ?problem ?solution> > All;> > I have a parking/e-brake question. Please allow me to explain the symptoms > so that my questions make sense. > I know that the parking brake works by pushing a couple of brake pads > against a “drum” that is an inside part of the rear rotor. I know that it is cable > actuated and you can adjust at each rear hub using a “wheel” with teeth on > it and/or also adjusting at the handbrake in the car with a couple of nuts > with additional jam or lock nuts on it. I’ve looked at Bentley and realoem dot > com in an effort to understand the parts that are there and so a little > familiar with the handbrake assembly though I’ve never actually seen what the pads > look like within the rear disc/e-brake drum nor seen it all work together. > So, I am trying to figure out what my experience points to on my car and > where the problem may lie. > Here’s the deal: SNIP > So, my questions are: > 1. What are the signs/symptoms of a broken Bowden cable? If you have a broken cable, it will not be able to pull on the parking brakes at all. You can easily verify a broken cable by having an assistant engage and disengage the parking brake while you observe it's operation from various points (under the car, and at each rear wheel). If both parking brake cables are being engaged, the cable system is fine. It may need some lubrication if it's sticking. > 2. If the hand brake is actuated and the cable breaks, does the pad > stay in contact with the drum? No. The parking brake drums have return springs that will pull them away from the drum when there is no tension on the parking brake cable. > 3. If the hand brake is not actuated and the cable breaks, does it fail > by letting the e-brake pads lightly touch against the e-brake drum or is the > failure mode to keep them away from the drum? Answered above. Also, by design, as system components wear (brake shoes wear, parking brake cable stretches), the distance required to engage the parking brake will INCREASE. So, wear will not cause the parking brakes to eventually stay engaged all of the time. > 4. How do I know that I need new ebrake pads. It certainly can’t be > sudden, can it? Quickest way to determine this is by removing the rear rotors. This is a very easy procedure. Refer to this diagram as well: http://tinyurl.com/g599r 1) Block front wheels 2) Lift rear end of car onto jackstands 3) Remove rear wheels 4) Disengage parking brake (VERY IMPORTANT!) 5) Remove calipers from mounting brackets (2 hex guide bolts each) and hang out of the way (use a bent coat hanger) 6) Remove brake carriers (2 collar screws each) 7) Remove rotor inner hex bolt (one each) 8) Remove rotor > I’m trying to figure out if I have one broken cable, worn ebrake pads, or > just a suddenly out of adjustment ebrake? I have changed rear discs before and > I can do that next weekend and check out the whole thing. But, I’d like to > only have to get in there once and so want to have the parts and the resolution > at hand. Remove the rotors, inspect the parking brake shoes and the inner drum surfaces on the rotors. Replace worn or damaged brake shoes, and perhaps the rotors, if they look damaged. If you see any color change in the metal, it means that the rotors got very hot from the engaged parking brake. They should be replaced as a precaution. Also, inspect the springs for the parking brake, and replace them if they look worn or damaged. Clean the parking brake components with spray brake cleaner. Lube the adjusting screw (I used a small amount of lithium grease). Put it all back together, follow the Bentley adjustment procedures, and enjoy a renewed parking brake.

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Fuel Pump Option? - from Doug Wirth
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:42:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Wirth <doug_wirth@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fuel Pump Option? I just did the install of the dual Bimmerworld kit. Its only $300. I think I spent a total of 1.5 hours doing the install. It isn't really any harder than doing what you are talking about and its a way better solution. Ahmad Lutfeali <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> wrote: Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:39:00 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" Subject: Fuel Pump Option? Its summer time and I have become lazy. That said I don't want to do too much work installing the double fuel pump and want a faster way out. I recall a bunch of folks out there installing the 325i fuel pump to ensure they do not get fuel starvation. I drove a friend's 325i at an Autox with the fuel light on and that thing never skipped a beat. Does anyone know which model year E36 fuel pump can be replaced with ours to make sure the car does not hiccup during high speed/tight right handers? Somehow this was the stage 1 kit which some of the tuners would sell a while back. Thanks, Ahmad ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* Doug

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Fuel Pump Option? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:38:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fuel Pump Option? On Tue, April 18, 2006 10:38 am, Ahmad Lutfeali said: > I recall a bunch of folks out there installing the 325i fuel pump to > ensure > they do not get fuel starvation. I drove a friend's 325i at an Autox with > the fuel light on and that thing never skipped a beat. I don't think it's just the fuel pump - it's the whole package of tank, pump, & hoses. Jim Bassett

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