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#1. Re: Rotor Mount Bolt Stripped - from Shane Kleinpeter
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:37:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Rotor Mount Bolt Stripped Since it seems this is a common problem, I'll pass on a trick a mechanic friend of mine taught me. If your rotors have been on there a while or if you live in the rust belt, you can lessen your chance of stripping out the Allen hole by doing the following: 1. Hit the bolt with penetrating oil before even trying. I do this before I start pulling the caliper and it's usually good to go by the time I get to the rotor. 2. Use a hand-impact driver instead of a ratchet. If you don't have one, they are pretty cheap and really work well in this application. 3. If you don't have #2, hammer the socket into the Allen hole before hooking up the ratchet. This will seat the socket in the hole nicely and lessen your chance of stripping it in the first place. Hope this helps somebody... Shane Kleinpeter http://www.justracing.com/homepage/sak335 '96 M3 '94 325i #76 ITS / #335 JP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Gas mileage - from S Stiles
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:39:58 -0700 From: "S Stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Gas mileage Yep, sorry to be a killjoy, but the list rules pretty clearly state that Gas Mileage is OT and shouldn't be discussed on list. I know we're all mileage enthusiasts, but you're all well aware of other lists that are focused on mileage. Please refer to http://www.digest.net/bmw/this_stuff_is_irrelevant.net At least I trimmed by message. :P Scott. > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:28:54 -0500> From: brad@demottearchitects.com> To: e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Gas mileage> > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:20:10 -0400> From: "Brad DeMotte" <brad@demottearchitects.com>> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Gas mileage> > > Guys.....> All this talk of gas mileage cracks me up.......I doubt ANYONE on this list> bought this car for the gas mileage. While it's a minor concern (especially> given gas prices), I bought this car for the performance and handling.> Extensive mods decrease economy, but who cares? We need horsepower!!> > Gas mileage has always been pretty low on my list when considering car> purchases.> > > Brad DeMotte> '97 M3 with many mods & poor MPG> > > >
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#3. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Was This car is amazing...Now - from Marco
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:47:43 -0700 From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Was This car is amazing...Now I get 8. All track. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Bauer [mailto:chrisbauer@vzavenue.net] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:09 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Was This car is amazing...Now Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:04:00 -0500 From: Christopher Bauer <chrisbauer@vzavenue.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Was This car is amazing...Now MPG I get 20-21mpg with a mostly stock car/stock chip on 95% city driving. I'm not exactly granny with the gas pedal though. Chris 97m3 ---- Original message ---- >Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:48:51 -0500 >From: "Stefano G" <stefanoale@excite.com> > >I hear 24-26-29-30. I get consistent 20-21 MPG (calculated not based on trip comp) in 50/50 City/Hwy split. >The Car: >101K stock except for Dinan Chip BMW >BMW synth oil changed based on indicator >oil filter changed twice as frequently >KN air filter >fuel filter due for replacement >alignment 2 times per year >driving style is very mellow on the street >autox and track days are not included in the MPG calculations >cruising at 75mph on hwy > >So is the Dinan chip really that bad? I get ~10 extra HP but I drop ~5mpg? Doesn't seem worth it to me? > >Anyone else has similar experience? > >Stefano >thirsty '98 M3 > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#4. RE: [E36M3] This car is amazing... - from S Stiles
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:48:02 -0700 From: "S Stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] This car is amazing... The main theme of my email was not really the mileage, fwiw, though it surprised me. A couple comments on mileage: - I tracked this trip on the OBC, though I've checked it against the odometer a few times and it's fairly close. - engine is stock except for a Dinan Stg1 flash. Random note: My city mileage has dropped significantly since I flashed "down" to stage1 from stage2+their CF-CAI. Doesn't look like highway mileage was affected... - running synthetics throughout. - zero toe in front, not sure about the rear setting... - My superior mileage is due entirely to a good coat of wax and my super lightweight 17" BBS RGRs :) Note that I average 18-19mpg in town, fwiw. > Subject: RE: [E36M3] This car is amazing...> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:17:58 -0500> From: Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> To: stiles_s@hotmail.com; e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > I took it on my first "fun drive" in good weather today. Roughly> 200miles> round trip with mixed highway and some good twisties, hauling 4> wheels/tires> on the return trip. The mix of handling, practicality, comfort and> economy> this car provides is pretty amazing. I absolutely flew on some of these> roads and the car returned an indicated 29+ mpg while providing great> driving experience. Compared to my wife's V8 S4 Avant, this thing is a> Hybrid :)> > -----------> > How did you get 29? Best I've gotten is 25/26 hwy when setting cruise> at 75-80. I've haven't reset my cons1 on the OBC for the last year or> so, and it's at 20.4 as of this morning, usually it's 19.9 but I logged> some hwy time over easter weekend. My regular work commute is a blend> of hwy/city driving, and I do get aggressive with the go pedal on good> average. 96k total mileage, 20k on plugs and O2 sensors, new 255/40> tires, 0w40 mobile uno all the time, fan deleted, but otherwise stock, I> should probably get better than what I am getting, maybe its alignment> related or something else, or maybe you have a freak!> > Note trailers deleted, not because I wanted to, but because people get> upset..> > Patrick Goss> 97 M3/4
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Fuel Injector Noise.. - from Zack Steinkamp
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:15:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fuel Injector Noise.. Jesse -- I had a very similar noise in my '98. "Plastic-y" is a good word for the sound characteristic. Turns out one of the spark plugs had worked itself loose. Tightening the offending plug solved the problem completely. The car had been in the shop for an Inspection service a couple weeks before, and I'd guess that the mechanic didn't apply enough torque to that plug. Just remove the plastic cover over the top of the motor to the left of the intake manifold, then you can pull the coils off and check the plugs one-by-one. It's a straightforward process -- should take 20 minutes tops. Email me directly if you run into any trouble. -zs --- Jesse Chamberlain <jesse.chamberlain@gmail.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:26:15 -0400 > From: "Jesse Chamberlain" <jesse.chamberlain@gmail.com> > Subject: Fuel Injector Noise.. > > I've started to notice a new noise coming from the engine compartment > of my M3. I have a 99 M3, it has just over 57K miles. > > I started noticing what sounded like ticking coming from the engine > compartment, so I lifted the hood, and it was coming from the fuel > rail area. It doesn't sound like lifter tick, it has more of a > plastic-y sound to it, (not like my description helps much).
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#6. UUC control Arms -Rogue Engineering - Sport Adjustable Rear Control - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:18:44 -0400 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: UUC control Arms -Rogue Engineering - Sport Adjustable Rear Control Arms (Part 2) Guys, I just installed the UUC lower control arms, and had the same issues that Neil did. I also feel the same way about the upgrade, the new arms are very well desinged, and allow a lot of adjustability. I also installed the TCdesign Diff cover at the same time. One point to note, if you are putting this cover on a dedicated track car, do yourself a favor and dent in the lower rear part of the spare tire well. (Thanks Chris!) If you do not do this, access to everthing in that area is almost impossible!! Mo 98 M3/4 95 M3 - IP car.. ALMOST DONE!! :) 91 325IX -------------------- 4 -------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 15:22:29 -0400 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Rogue Engineering - Sport Adjustable Rear Control Arms (Part 2)
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Fuel Injector Noise.. - from Zack Steinkamp
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:23:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fuel Injector Noise.. Just some additional info... I dug up my original post about the sound, which you can see here: http://www.bmw-m.net/Digest/Archive_2004_02_digest_3575-3622/digest3622.htm#4 It refers to a web page with a sound clip that you can listen to here: http://thenobot.org/m3_klunk.mp3 The sound clip is of the engine idling, and I was moving my tiny little microphones around the motor. That will let you hear the sound that I was hearing... it's most apparent about 40% of the way through the file. -zs --- Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:15:18 -0700 (PDT) > From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fuel Injector Noise.. > > Jesse -- > > I had a very similar noise in my '98. "Plastic-y" is a good word for > the sound characteristic. > > Turns out one of the spark plugs had worked itself loose. Tightening > the offending plug solved the problem completely. The car had been > in > the shop for an Inspection service a couple weeks before, and I'd > guess > that the mechanic didn't apply enough torque to that plug. > > Just remove the plastic cover over the top of the motor to the left > of > the intake manifold, then you can pull the coils off and check the > plugs one-by-one. It's a straightforward process -- should take 20 > minutes tops. Email me directly if you run into any trouble. > > -zs
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Fuel Injector Noise.. - from Jesse Chamberlain
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:27:33 -0400 From: "Jesse Chamberlain" <jesse.chamberlain@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fuel Injector Noise.. OK, I will have to check this tonight. I've done this before, so it shouldn't take too long. I was the last one to replace the plugs, and I usually torque the plugs down, but maybe I forgot or missed a plug. I replaced them more than a year or so ago. I hope this is it, but I will know tonight! Thanks for the info! Jesse C. On 4/20/06, Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> wrote: > Jesse -- > > I had a very similar noise in my '98. "Plastic-y" is a good word for > the sound characteristic. > > Turns out one of the spark plugs had worked itself loose. Tightening > the offending plug solved the problem completely. The car had been in > the shop for an Inspection service a couple weeks before, and I'd guess > that the mechanic didn't apply enough torque to that plug. > > *SNIP* >
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#9. Rotor mount bolt stripped - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:39:55 -0400 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: Rotor mount bolt stripped Alex, Hello. I drill the bolt, and use an easy-out to remove it. Regards. Mo -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:39:51 -0400 From: "Alex Demsky" <hyper_m3@hotmail.com> Subject: So Im trying to replace my rotors and get the whole caliper off to find the rotor mount bolt is rusted and stripped. Any suggestions how to get the rotor off now?
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#10. This car is amazing... - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:58:52 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: This car is amazing... > > From: Matthew Teel <mteel@beluga.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] This car is amazing... > > >How did you get 29? Best I've gotten is 25/26 hwy when setting cruise at > 75-80. > >... > > I get a solid 25MPG mixed city/highway. The only mods are a K&N in a stock > airbox. My mileage increased about 2-3MPG with just the aircleaner change.. Boy, your old filter must have been really, really clogged and dirty, as a new K&N doesn't flow any better than a new stock Mann/Mahle air filter. Regards, Rich
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#11. More brake drama - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:03:51 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: More brake drama > > From: Walter J m3gtr@adelphia.net > > Rich Dorffer wrote: > > >The kits from Autozone or Advance or wherever really suck, the materials > and > >quality are horrible, you truly get what you pay for. I would never use > >them for something like a caliper. > > > >I would only use genuine Ate parts (or equivalent). Then again, I also > use > >plastilube and Ate brake caliper grease when rebuilding calipers. > > > > > The ones from Autozone say Ate right on the little baggie that contains > one little o-ring and one dust cover. Funny... they can still sell them > at a profit for $3. The ones I bought at Autozone were generic, they certainly weren't made by/for Ate and the quality was discernible. Also note that Ate probably does not own a "grease" factory and just > buys the stuff from the lowest bidder... but hey what ever works for > you. As long as it still stops its a win. Let me know who makes their brake caliper rebuild grease. Thanks in advance. Regards, Rich
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#12. RE: [E36M3] Re: Rotor Mount Bolt Stripped - from Tom Clark (toclark)
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:07:51 -0400 From: "Tom Clark (toclark)" <toclark@cisco.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Rotor Mount Bolt Stripped Also, take a large flat faced punch that fits in the rotor recess for this bolt and whack it a few good raps. This helps break the head of the screw loose and makes it easier to remove. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Shane Kleinpeter [mailto:sak335@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 11:39 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: Rotor Mount Bolt Stripped Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:37:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Rotor Mount Bolt Stripped Since it seems this is a common problem, I'll pass on a trick a mechanic friend of mine taught me. If your rotors have been on there a while or if you live in the rust belt, you can lessen your chance of stripping out the Allen hole by doing the following: 1. Hit the bolt with penetrating oil before even trying. I do this before I start pulling the caliper and it's usually good to go by the time I get to the rotor. 2. Use a hand-impact driver instead of a ratchet. If you don't have one, they are pretty cheap and really work well in this application. 3. If you don't have #2, hammer the socket into the Allen hole before hooking up the ratchet. This will seat the socket in the hole nicely and lessen your chance of stripping it in the first place. Hope this helps somebody... Shane Kleinpeter http://www.justracing.com/homepage/sak335 '96 M3 '94 325i #76 ITS / #335 JP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************