E36M3 #4763

Monday, May 01, 2006 16:28:39

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: [E36M3] Need help with shorty header install - from Jon@treehouseracing.com
#2. Help with Axle stub removal - from Evan Bradford
#3. Shorty Install Impressions - from Robert Manger
#4. Replace Spark Plug Connectors? - from Andrej Dolenc
#5. Rear Seat Airbag Box - from twisty M3
#6. Bavarian Autosport High-Performance Ignition Coils - from Goss, Patrick - PA
#7. Re: [E36M3] Replace Spark Plug Connectors? - from Jim Bassett
#8. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear Seat Airbag Box - from Marco
#9. Anyone running 245/35/18 PS2 on 18x8.5 ET38? - from Juan Bruce
#10. message board - from Tom Yee

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Need help with shorty header install - from Jon@treehouseracing.com
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:27:37 -0500 From: "Jon@treehouseracing.com" <jon@treehouseracing.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need help with shorty header install The Euro headers are CAKE compared to the shorty headers. They seem to be good quality, fitment and build, but install is honestly horrible. We put a set on a OBDII M car and it took hours. So many that I will not sell another set unless the motor is out. If you think EURO headers are tough, don't tackle the shorty's - it's just insane. one of the bolts required cutting the EGR pipe support off. Jon ______________________________________________ Jon Siccardi - DM #052 TreehouseRacing.com M50conversion.com 615.333.9118 ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need help with shorty header install > Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:52:33 -0500 > From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need help with shorty header install > > If they are like the euro headers better get ALL your 11mm stuff...short > wrench you name it. > > The Euro headers are a PITA to put on or take off....I did mine four > times...not fun... > > Gary > turbo manifold now... ahhh much easier... > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#2. Help with Axle stub removal - from Evan Bradford
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:33:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Evan Bradford <evbrad2002@yahoo.com> Subject: Help with Axle stub removal I'm in the process of replacing my passenger rear wheel bearing. Got the Sir Tool B90 kit. Axle nut is off. Brakes are removed. Half shaft is free from the diff. I'm having difficulty getting the axle stub out of the control arm. I've sprayed PB blaster and struck it many times with a hand sledge and brass drift...nothing. I tried a large 3 leg puller on the hub to press the axle out. The puller popped off on two attempts...also worried about mushrooming the hub. Any tips? I'm letting the PB Blaster work overnight hoping this will help. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone.

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#3. Shorty Install Impressions - from Robert Manger
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Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 09:02:57 -0400 From: "Robert Manger" <Robert_Manger@Mastercard.com> Subject: Shorty Install Impressions Hi Group, A couple of people asked that when I completed the install of the shorty (TMS) headers to give my impressions of the install and the improvements to the car. So here it goes. The install while not difficult is very time consuming, it can really eat the better part of a Saturday afternoon. Removing the old manifold, wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be, I sprayed all the studs with some Wurth Rost Off the night before and hit it again in the morning while making coffee, I gathered all the tools that I thought I would need (thanks Gary) which was pretty much anything that had 11mm printed on it in the tool box and just worked each stud loose from the head and started to collect them. Speaking of tools, I am not a big fan of crap tools and this install is the reason why. I have a decent set of Facom wrenches and 1/2, 3/8 and 1/4 drive sockets to go with them along with some offset box wrenches (thanks ultimate garage). I still have some craftsman tools that are still good, but this install was where they were useless. The Facom ratchets had just better sizing and more accurate movement to actually work in those tight places, the craftsman wouldn't even fit they were too big. Now, I personally hate when I read the "installation is the reverse of removal", in this case it really didn't apply. The shorty headers allow very little room for wrenches to tighten up the nuts on the studs compared to the stock piece. This is where I spent the majority of the time, just moving the nut a wee bit and then doing it over and over. Some of the things that saved my bacon, were the use of stud remover/installer, yes they are Facom, and they are the coolest tool ever and a magnetic pick up tool to help place the 11mm nuts on the studs, then use my fingers to hand tighten in order to put a wrench on it. The pick up tool came out since there is a nice little nook that each bank of pipes collect/merge into that likes to collect them as they fall from the studs. Ok, so I got the headers on and checked all the nuts were snugged down. Factory spec is something really low like 11ft lbs, which means to me hand tight then a 1/2 turn or so cause there ain't no way you are getting a torque wrench in there on all of them. Started the car up and didn't notice any difference in sound, (car has cams, intake, SS exhaust already). let it warm up and let the rust remover burn off the rest of the engine, Yeah seeing that smoke come out was an interesting bit of a panic attack. I took the car for a drive and I did notice a little more umph in the lower rpm, but I can't say its very pronounced, but there is definitely a gain there, as the rpms increase the engine seems to get to the higher rpm quicker and I attribute that to the better "breathing" of the headers. Would I do the install again, yes, Do I think its worth it, Yes, with the caveat that you are trying to squeeze out that last bit of NA tuning in your car. Rob CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail message and any attachments are only for the use of the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, distribution or other use of this e-mail message or attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please delete and notify the sender immediately. Thank you.

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#4. Replace Spark Plug Connectors? - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 09:24:48 -0400 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Replace Spark Plug Connectors? Gruppe, I'm slowly working my way through replacing a pile of filters and tidbits on my car. Going in and replacing the spark plugs as well. One of the junk mail flyers I received in the mail recommends replacing the spark plug connectors, the elephant trunk from the ignition coil to the plug itself. I've done plug changes but to date have not replaced these connectors and the car still runs just fine. The car does have 140K miles on it, so now I'm wondering whether there is any wisdom in replacing these as preventative maintenance. Or whether it's just self serving propaganda on their part. What say you? Thanks, Andrej '97 M3

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#5. Rear Seat Airbag Box - from twisty M3
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Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 08:35:28 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Rear Seat Airbag Box I've recently removed the rear sets from my car and thought nothing of the airbag unit that was under the seat, aside from being careful not to dislodge it or anything like that. A BMW tech saw my car this weekend and warned that if anything hits the box with the ignition on, it could easily deploy the airbags. Any truth to that? I thought it was just a relay box, and that only impacts to the sensors could set the bags off. I sometimes have wheels in the back, and always have my toolbox in the trunk. While it's strapped down pretty good, you just never know. Any truth to this? I'm careful anyway, but if that's a true risk, I'll have to fab something to cover the box. Jonathan L.

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#6. Bavarian Autosport High-Performance Ignition Coils - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 11:11:51 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: Bavarian Autosport High-Performance Ignition Coils Hey guys, just wondering if anybody would share their comments, experiences, opinions with these. Perf gains are claimed, although not quantified, but more attractive is the possibility of increased fuel economy which is an important subject these days. http://www.bavauto.com/shop.asp then enter part # 5002 6 Unfortunately I don't see specs listed which say output, or anything concrete which evidences how they are better. Something about the coil windings being modified, but that doesn't say much IMO. There are other choices likely. Probably a much cheaper alternative than replacing with OEM if you have a failure. I might consider these as my coil packs are an unmatched set, (not sure if really matters). Patrick Goss 97 M3/4

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Replace Spark Plug Connectors? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 10:01:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Replace Spark Plug Connectors? On Mon, May 1, 2006 6:28 am, Andrej Dolenc said: > The car does have 140K miles on it, so now I'm wondering whether there > is any wisdom in replacing these as preventative maintenance. Or > whether it's just self serving propaganda on their part. IMNSHO, the latter. The M3 is on the original coils; 168K miles with no issues. The race car has new-ish coils, but they were replaced as part of the search for a "cutting-out" problem with the car. Which turned out to merely be a loose ground. Grrr. :-) Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP

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#8. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear Seat Airbag Box - from Marco
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Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 10:05:19 -0700 From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear Seat Airbag Box I early E36s the crash sensors were in the engine compartment on the fenders. In later E36s the sensor was under the rear seat. I suppose a good sharp jolt could set fool it into thinking there was a crash. Marco -----Original Message----- From: twisty M3 [mailto:twistym3@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:38 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] Rear Seat Airbag Box Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 08:35:28 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Rear Seat Airbag Box I've recently removed the rear sets from my car and thought nothing of the airbag unit that was under the seat, aside from being careful not to dislodge it or anything like that. A BMW tech saw my car this weekend and warned that if anything hits the box with the ignition on, it could easily deploy the airbags. Any truth to that? I thought it was just a relay box, and that only impacts to the sensors could set the bags off. I sometimes have wheels in the back, and always have my toolbox in the trunk. While it's strapped down pretty good, you just never know. Any truth to this? I'm careful anyway, but if that's a true risk, I'll have to fab something to cover the box. Jonathan L. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#9. Anyone running 245/35/18 PS2 on 18x8.5 ET38? - from Juan Bruce
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Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 13:38:15 -0700 From: "Juan Bruce" <jbruce@gmail.com> Subject: Anyone running 245/35/18 PS2 on 18x8.5 ET38? I have been running 235/40/18 S03s on my 18x8.5 BBS RCs (ET38). I'm thinking about ordering a set of 245/35/18 Pilot Sport 2s for my next tires. I have my fenders rolled so I'm not so concerned about the rear, but I would prefer not to have to use spacers in the front to clear my H&R coilovers. Is anyone running this set-up? Juan ..:: Juan Bruce :: jbruce@gmail.com :: +1.650.218.0442 ::.

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#10. message board - from Tom Yee
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Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 17:22:01 -0400 From: "Tom Yee" <tomgsr@hotmail.com> Subject: message board Dear Suzy: I think we had a miscommunication. The recent messages have reached me as individual messages (as opposed to digest and individual messages), but I would really prefer to receive them in the digest form. Would you be able to modify the output settings to me? Thank you for your help! Regards, Tom Yee

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