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#1. RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG - from Scott Stiles
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:11:46 -0700 From: "Scott Stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG I've yet to see a real user report of the M3-spec PSS9 system (I asked around quite a bit, before deciding to simply go w/bilstein sports). I'm really looking forward to hearing what you think. Thanks, Scott Stiles '97 M3/2 (bilsteins, rgrs, uuc strutbar. Otherwise stock) -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA [mailto:Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:05 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:00:07 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG That does it for me, I can't resist any longer. I've been putting this off for close to a year now when the list was chattering about these coming out the end of last summer! I am 97K on my 97, so its time. I can't put it off any longer, Doug just took my order and there is not too many left, so hurry guys. It's the silent sale like on Seinfeld (for those of you that have kept up with trivia)! Patrick Goss 97 M3/4 Ghetto Suspension soon to be overhauled
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:12:50 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG Congrats! Are you able to choose spring rates with that kit? -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA [mailto:Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:05 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:00:07 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG That does it for me, I can't resist any longer. I've been putting this off for close to a year now when the list was chattering about these coming out the end of last summer! I am 97K on my 97, so its time. I can't put it off any longer, Doug just took my order and there is not too many left, so hurry guys. It's the silent sale like on Seinfeld (for those of you that have kept up with trivia)! Patrick Goss 97 M3/4 Ghetto Suspension soon to be overhauled
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG - from Weston-Lewis, Graeme
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:17:49 -0600 From: "Weston-Lewis, Graeme" <GWESTON@lsil.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG It must be something to do with the time of year... http://www.generic-racing.com/phorum/viewtopic.php?p=25160#25160 I resisted for 2 whole years! Graeme -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA [mailto:Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 2:05 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:00:07 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG That does it for me, I can't resist any longer. I've been putting this off for close to a year now when the list was chattering about these coming out the end of last summer! I am 97K on my 97, so its time. I can't put it off any longer, Doug just took my order and there is not too many left, so hurry guys. It's the silent sale like on Seinfeld (for those of you that have kept up with trivia)! Patrick Goss 97 M3/4 Ghetto Suspension soon to be overhauled -----Original Message----- From: Will Turner [mailto:willt@turnermotorsport.com] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:55 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:47:53 -0500 From: "Will Turner" <willt@turnermotorsport.com> Subject: Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG This seems like a good time to offer some information on coil overs (if someone else has not beat me to it) The major difference that people notice between street coil overs and non coil over street lowering kits on the E36 (besides the ability to adjust the ride height to exactly where you want it) is : Ride on rough roads, The coil over kits we sell (H&R and Bilstein specifically) are engineered so that when the car is lowered the car will still have close to , if not the same, suspension travel capability. Meaning that a coil over kit will not "bottom out" like a standard sport shock and lowering spring combo can when you hit big bumps. This makes a huge difference when hitting pot holes and the like. Bottoming out makes the "BANG" that you hear when hitting a big bump... So, now for the Sales plug... We are offering E36 Bilstein Coil over kits at 10% of our already low prices this month (while supplies last) E36 325/328 PSS9 (9 way adjustable) $1259 E36 M3 3.0 PSS9 (9 way adjustable)$1299 E36 M3 3.2 PSS9 (9 way adjustable)$1299 E36 325/328 PSS (non adjustable) $854 The pricing is not advertised on line but if you mention that you are a digest member when you call , we will adjust pricing. -Will ------------------------------------ Turner motorsport Will Turner President willt@turnermotorsport.com 16 Hunt Road South Amesbury, Ma 01913 tel: 978-388-7769 x 11 fax: 978-388-4202 ------------------------------------ ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#4. RE: E36 Subframe Bushings - from William Townsend
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:47:28 -0400 From: "William Townsend" <wtownsend@juniper.net> Subject: RE: E36 Subframe Bushings Mark, Don't forget the front lower control arm bushing. I bet yours is torn. I tore one of the early powerflex FLCAB's and the steering went one way while braking and the other when I loaded that side of the car. Made a slight clunk when it would snap out of place. Made a loud pop at the track when it let go in a brake zone. Check the front ball joints while there. --Bill 96 M3
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Tire fun... - from Christopher Bauer
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:51:55 -0500 From: Christopher Bauer <chrisbauer@vzavenue.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Tire fun... In the interest of equal time. I like these tires. I have not experienced any of the problems Alex encountered. They've been very good. A little noisy, but ok. If you can't get a refund, shoot me an email, i might take em off your hands ;) Chris 97m3 >Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 00:40:01 -0400 >From: "Alexander Fadeev" <afadeev@smu.edu> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] Tire fun... > >Don't let the looks deceive you. AVS100's tread does resemble Michelin Pilots. >Unfortunately, the looks is all they have in common with decent tires. > >I don't know how to put this other than to say that AVS100's were the _only_ >tires I had ever dismounted off my M3 and thrown away before they wore off. >They were _that_ bad. > >Slippery when new, unstable under braking, getting progressively (hideously) >noisy as they wore off ... and these are just the memories I did not >suppress...
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#6. Re: [E36M3] RE: E36 Subframe Bushings - from Peter Loron
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:57:11 -0700 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: E36 Subframe Bushings Bit for a thread divert: Is there a good FAQ around that details how to check the various bushings for wear? Thanks. -Pete On 6/1/06, William Townsend <wtownsend@juniper.net> wrote: > > Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:47:28 -0400 > From: "William Townsend" <wtownsend@juniper.net> > Subject: RE: E36 Subframe Bushings > > Mark, > > > > Don't forget the front lower control arm bushing. I bet yours is torn. I > tore one of the early powerflex FLCAB's and the steering went one way > while braking and the other when I loaded that side of the car. Made a > slight clunk when it would snap out of place. Made a loud pop at the > track when it let go in a brake zone. Check the front ball joints while > there. > > > > --Bill > > 96 M3 > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:04:08 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG It comes with 460frt 685r-prog. I supposed you could change them although I doubt it's an option at purchase since it's a kit. These are the rates I researched and test drove on paper however, and I am okay with that for now. -----Original Message----- From: Dave DeBuhr [mailto:debuhr@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:13 PM To: Goss, Patrick - PA; E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG Congrats! Are you able to choose spring rates with that kit? -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA [mailto:Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:05 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:00:07 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG That does it for me, I can't resist any longer. I've been putting this off for close to a year now when the list was chattering about these coming out the end of last summer! I am 97K on my 97, so its time. I can't put it off any longer, Doug just took my order and there is not too many left, so hurry guys. It's the silent sale like on Seinfeld (for those of you that have kept up with trivia)! Patrick Goss 97 M3/4 Ghetto Suspension soon to be overhauled
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Replacement Windshield - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:07:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Replacement Windshield On Wed, May 31, 2006 7:35 pm, Mike VanAmburgh said: > I'm not sure if the OE seal has the rain channel but I really like having > it. The wife's 97 M3/4 doesn't have the rain channel and it sucks getting > a > bath while using the windshield washer with the window open. Grrr... I thought that only happened to me :-) Thanks for the "reminder" - I gotta remember to check for the rain channel on the next 'shield for the M3. Jim Bassett
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:19:04 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG I will certainly provide a list report, but what is a "real user" in your opinion. Is that a track rat, auto-x junkie, aggressive street driver or single malt blend of all three, or some variant mixes of each? My suspension is so toast it will be hard for me to give a base report. I wasn't kidding when I signed "ghetto suspension" earlier. I broke a bottom coil on one of the fronts and cut the other side to match, whalla 1" lowering, (but only up front)...flipped frt strut hats for some aggressive negative camber, and aligned it myself. Amazingly enough I did well auto-xing last time despite some shoddy tires. A passenger on one of runs commented how dead my shocks felt during transitions, although times seemed okay otherwise. Yeah I am excited to have them on their way! -----Original Message----- From: Scott Stiles [mailto:stiles_s@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:15 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:11:46 -0700 From: "Scott Stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG I've yet to see a real user report of the M3-spec PSS9 system (I asked around quite a bit, before deciding to simply go w/bilstein sports). I'm really looking forward to hearing what you think. Thanks, Scott Stiles '97 M3/2 (bilsteins, rgrs, uuc strutbar. Otherwise stock) -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA [mailto:Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:05 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:00:07 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG That does it for me, I can't resist any longer. I've been putting this off for close to a year now when the list was chattering about these coming out the end of last summer! I am 97K on my 97, so its time. I can't put it off any longer, Doug just took my order and there is not too many left, so hurry guys. It's the silent sale like on Seinfeld (for those of you that have kept up with trivia)! Patrick Goss 97 M3/4 Ghetto Suspension soon to be overhauled ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG - from Scott
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:26:15 -0700 From: "Scott" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG Sounds good. By "real user", I meant: real=living/breathing human. User=actually has driven or owned a car with this suspension. I've found zippo real feedback on the M3 system. Bilstein builds good stuff, though. Scott. Ps. What class do you run in with a broken coil? Street prepared? :) -----Original Message----- From: Goss, Patrick - PA [mailto:Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 2:19 PM To: Scott Stiles; E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG I will certainly provide a list report, but what is a "real user" in your opinion. Is that a track rat, auto-x junkie, aggressive street driver or single malt blend of all three, or some variant mixes of each? My suspension is so toast it will be hard for me to give a base report. I wasn't kidding when I signed "ghetto suspension" earlier. I broke a bottom coil on one of the fronts and cut the other side to match, whalla 1" lowering, (but only up front)...flipped frt strut hats for some aggressive negative camber, and aligned it myself. Amazingly enough I did well auto-xing last time despite some shoddy tires. A passenger on one of runs commented how dead my shocks felt during transitions, although times seemed okay otherwise. Yeah I am excited to have them on their way! -----Original Message----- From: Scott Stiles [mailto:stiles_s@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:15 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:11:46 -0700 From: "Scott Stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG I've yet to see a real user report of the M3-spec PSS9 system (I asked around quite a bit, before deciding to simply go w/bilstein sports). I'm really looking forward to hearing what you think. Thanks, Scott Stiles '97 M3/2 (bilsteins, rgrs, uuc strutbar. Otherwise stock)
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#11. Re: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:27:51 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG On Jun 1, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Goss, Patrick - PA wrote: > or single malt blend of all three That is a contradiction in terms. Single malts are fundamentally not blended, which is what makes them single malt. :) - Mark, single malt fan, club racer, pedant ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar