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#1. Any thoughts on the SuperSprint SS exhaust? - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:27:29 -0400 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: Any thoughts on the SuperSprint SS exhaust? Scott, Hello. I have a SS exhaust on my 91 325IX. The exhaust has been on the car for a few years, and sees lots of snow and nice NJ salt, and still looks GREAT. I also have a SS exhaust on my 95 M3 race car, and it sounds nice on that car as well.. As far as +hp, I have not dyno'd either car but from seeing other reviews you should not expect any significant gains from an exhaust. The SS is a VERY high quality exhaust, but definately heavier than other aftermarket systems. Good luck Mo 98 M3/4 95 M3 IP car in progress. 91 325IX. -------------------- 1 -------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:36:19 -0700 From: "scott stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: Any thoughts on the SuperSprint SS exhaust? I'm about to pull the trigger on this exhaust. Any feedback? I'm looking for a slightly higher noise level, along with a few ponies. This is on a '97 M3/2, fwiw. Thanks, Scott.
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Coil Overs VS non Coil overs - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 18:17:13 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Coil Overs VS non Coil overs In a message dated 6/4/2006 10:05:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, E36M3Digest@gmail.com writes: TC Kline has consistently served me every time I have spoken to them, no issues, no drama, no lies when stuff was shipped, no problem getting in contact with them or them returning a phone call, etc. Ditto that! Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe (sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & JT-Designs) Philly Region SCCA 2005 Philly Region BSP Champion
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG - from Dave Heckendorf
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 18:40:10 -0700 From: "Dave Heckendorf" <daveheckendorf@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG On 6/3/06, Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > > At 06:35 PM 6/3/2006, Dave Heckendorf wrote: > >2) If I'm not mistaken, KONI's are a "cut-n-gut"/insert affair for the > >fronts, using the original Boge housings I've got now (is this procedure > a > >royal PITA, and/or is it possible that my housings could be less than > >optimal for this procedure due to 8yr/60K-mile of wear on them)? > > Correct, cut-n-gut using the Boge housings. No spacers needed. BTDT. (I'm > back on stock Boge/Sachs shocks/struts, BTW.) OK, you knew I was going to have to ask... Aside from the fact that you now have a dedicated track car (and that can have whatever suspension you want, subject to class restrictions), why did you take the M3/4 back to Boge/Sachs if you already had it on KONI's (??with the original springs??)?? >3) Should I consider a KONI kit from TCKline, Ground-Control or others > that > >include springs (in a variety of rates from street->track) and sometimes > >RSM/other components, or just stick with my current 8yr/60K-mile stock > >springs and 2yr/o JTD RSMs?: > > Springs don't usually wear out, so as long as the shocks can be adjusted > to > work with he springs, you should be fine. I figured as much; but wasn't sure if the KONI SA/DA shocks/struts were valved for use with the factory original springs. I'm not opposed to buying new springs as well; but, I wouldn't mind saving that $$ for one of the other projects I need to tend to. I'm also not particularly interested in lowering the car (scraping in/out of the driveway already unless I take it at a 45) as well, and TCK's website says the OESport Springs are 15-20% stiffer and only slightly lower the car; but, the Sport Springs are 25-30% stiffer and lower the car 1.5-2.0 inches... I gather that Coilovers are just overkill for a car that is going to spend more than 75% on the street/highway as a commute car...? You may want to change the bushings in the RSMs, but with only 2yrs on > them, they should be OK. Mine were ~6yrs old, and I got new bushings from > JTD recently. From what I can tell, if I go the route of the TCK externally adjustable rears, they have 12mm shafts, so I'll probably have to replace them with either Monoball of Buna Rubber versions from TCK (and I should probably consider replacing the nylock nuts, washers, body gaskets and the factory reinforcement plates)... >BTW, what's conventional wisdom on battery and clutch/flywheel replacements > >and I know all of that is getting tired as well...? > > I went with a stock clutch replacement, and only replaced the flywheel > because I thought it was unbalanced and the source of a vibration (it > wasn't). While I like the LTW flywheel on the race car (a lot), the trans > rattle would have been unacceptable on the street car. From what I gather, rattling is common among the lightweight flywheels... Battery: Interstate MTP-91. Got one in both cars. Easy replacement, and > <$100. I would have thought the gel batteries would have come further along (Optima, etc); but, at last check, they didn't have a size that fit appropriately for Bimmers... Is the MTP-91 a vented model (such that I need to be certain I get the vent kit as well)? Thanks! Dave
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 19:00:43 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG On Jun 4, 2006, at 6:44 PM, Dave Heckendorf wrote: > From what I can tell, if I go the route of the TCK externally > adjustable > rears, they have 12mm shafts, so I'll probably have to replace them > with > either Monoball of Buna Rubber versions from TCK (and I should > probably > consider replacing the nylock nuts, washers, body gaskets and the > factory > reinforcement plates)... You really don't want to use a monoball there on a street car. It'll be really harsh, not to mention unlikely to last the number of miles that street cars run. > Is the MTP-91 a vented model (such that I need to be certain I get > the vent > kit as well)? Yep. There's a vent adapter kit that adapts it to the stock E36 vent line. - Mark ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 19:37:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Coil Overs VS non Coil overs and SALES PLUG On Sun, June 4, 2006 6:44 pm, Dave Heckendorf said: > why did you take the M3/4 back to > Boge/Sachs > if you already had it on KONI's (??with the original springs??)?? The Koni's I had on the car were used (Hi Jonathan! :-)), and had started to leak. For whatever reason the replacement rears I bought were not the same as the ones I took off, and I could NOT get them to work with the springs. And what I wanted was stock ride quality. And I plan on keeping the car for a while yet and it doesn't see the track at all, so I finally had a "forehead-smacking moment" <g> and decided to just put stock components back on. I got ~100,000 miles from the OE shocks, even with all the track time I had in the car, so I figured I should be able to get that on OEM shocks easily now that the car's just a daily driver. No-brainer at that point. > I gather that Coilovers are just overkill for a car that is going to spend > more than 75% on the street/highway as a commute car...? I think so, but that's just my opinion and my tolerance (or lack thereof) for ride harshness. YMMV. > From what I can tell, if I go the route of the TCK externally adjustable > rears, they have 12mm shafts, so I'll probably have to replace them with > either Monoball of Buna Rubber versions from TCK (and I should probably > consider replacing the nylock nuts, washers, body gaskets and the factory > reinforcement plates)... I talked to Jim Mihal at JTD, and he said I could run the JTD mounts, just without the center metal sleeve in the bushing. Seemed to be OK for the few weeks I ran that config. (Got the same info as well from Ben at Rogue regarding their RSMs.) > Is the MTP-91 a vented model (such that I need to be certain I get the > vent > kit as well)? Yep; there's a "vent kit" that comes with it. Jim Bassett
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Shock removal - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 19:44:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Shock removal On Sun, June 4, 2006 10:44 am, Mark Dadgar said: > Yes, Sears gets that, too. At the bottom of the Carousel, at Turn 8, > at Turn 10, etc. All the really bad spots. > > And that wasn't nearly the hardest rain we had that day. We shut the > event down right after lunch due to the weather. There was a 4" lake > all the way across Turn 10 at the apex. Bad spot. Very bad. Correct. That video was from early in the day, before lunch. Wasn't too bad (he says now, sitting safely at home :-)), along the car was moving a LOT through turn 10. During the entire lunch break (during which the track was closed; new regs, no A/B students working corners during lunch) it rained constantly, and hard. Chief instructors went out before we were set to begin to check the track. Apparently only turn 7 didn't have standing or running water in or across the corner. For a school, the smart decision was to end the event. > You should come out and try Sears. It's amazing. Ditto. :-) Jim Bassett - lucky, only 33 miles from Sears :-)
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#7. Hazard Lights on the Track - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 22:49:53 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: Hazard Lights on the Track > > From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> > Local club regs specify that if an instructor is driving the car, the > hazards should be on. > From: "Gus Iverson" < gus.iverson@gmail.com> > For the record, our local club (BMW of Puget Sound) requests that > instructors driving their own cars put on the hazard flashers so that > other people know that the driver of that car *should* know what he's > doing. > Why? They would have loved the two numbskull instructors at Mid-Ohio on Memorial Day in matching yellow Z06s with matching blue driving suits going out in various group tailing each other tight as can be all around the track, terrorizing others. If one got out ahead of the other, they peddled around the track until the other one was on their @ss and then ran together like two bats out of h*ll. And they didn't have their hazard lights on, and it wouldn't have mattered if they had. Regards, Rich
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Hazard Lights on the Track - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:24:08 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Hazard Lights on the Track On 6/4/06, Rich Dorffer <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> wrote: > Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 22:49:53 -0400 > From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> > Subject: Hazard Lights on the Track > > > > > From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> > > > Local club regs specify that if an instructor is driving the car, the > > hazards should be on. > > > > > > From: "Gus Iverson" < gus.iverson@gmail.com> > > For the record, our local club (BMW of Puget Sound) requests that > > instructors driving their own cars put on the hazard flashers so that > > other people know that the driver of that car *should* know what he's > > doing. > > > > > Why? > > They would have loved the two numbskull instructors at Mid-Ohio on Memorial > Day in matching yellow Z06s with matching blue driving suits going out in > various group tailing each other tight as can be all around the track, > terrorizing others. If one got out ahead of the other, they peddled around > the track until the other one was on their @ss and then ran together like > two bats out of h*ll. > > And they didn't have their hazard lights on, and it wouldn't have mattered > if they had. > > Regards, > > Rich > > We are also requested by the local club to not maximize our pace, act like idiots, or otherwise set bad examples for our students at the possible expense of our maximizing our own time on track. Why? Because the club philosophy is that the instructors are still instructors whether on the track or off and that they should be setting the example. In fact, the chief instructor for our club has requested that we keep this in mind *on the street* driving to and from events. The two cars drivers you mentioned would have been stopped at the least and talked to at any BMW club track day I've attended here in the PNW. These things are taken fairly seriously. Personally, I find it worthwhile and appreciate the attitude expectations. It seems to me that we have some of the safest and sanest track events of all the various clubs I participate with. Gus
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#9. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Hazard Lights on the Track - from Marco
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:26:35 -0700 From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Hazard Lights on the Track They would not have been invited back by the BMW DE organizers out here. The flashing lights are also a way for the corner workers to know who the instructors are - so they either get more "rope" or less. I also think the corner workers are told only instructors are allowed passengers so not to freak if they see two or more helmets in a car with flashing lights. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Rich Dorffer [mailto:E36M3Digest@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:55 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] Hazard Lights on the Track Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 22:49:53 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: Hazard Lights on the Track > > From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> > Local club regs specify that if an instructor is driving the car, the > hazards should be on. > From: "Gus Iverson" < gus.iverson@gmail.com> > For the record, our local club (BMW of Puget Sound) requests that > instructors driving their own cars put on the hazard flashers so that > other people know that the driver of that car *should* know what he's > doing. > Why? They would have loved the two numbskull instructors at Mid-Ohio on Memorial Day in matching yellow Z06s with matching blue driving suits going out in various group tailing each other tight as can be all around the track, terrorizing others. If one got out ahead of the other, they peddled around the track until the other one was on their @ss and then ran together like two bats out of h*ll. And they didn't have their hazard lights on, and it wouldn't have mattered if they had. Regards, Rich ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Hazard Lights on the Track - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:40:21 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Hazard Lights on the Track On Jun 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Rich Dorffer wrote: >> From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> >> >> Local club regs specify that if an instructor is driving the car, the >> hazards should be on. > >> From: "Gus Iverson" < gus.iverson@gmail.com> >> For the record, our local club (BMW of Puget Sound) requests that >> instructors driving their own cars put on the hazard flashers so that >> other people know that the driver of that car *should* know what he's >> doing. >> > > > Why? Two reasons: 1) it lets the students know that the car screaming up behind them is being driven by someone who knows what they're doing 2) it lets the corner workers, stewards, group leaders, and chief instructors easily spot instructors who aren't behaving like instructors > They would have loved the two numbskull instructors at Mid-Ohio on > Memorial > Day in matching yellow Z06s with matching blue driving suits going > out in > various group tailing each other tight as can be all around the track, > terrorizing others. If one got out ahead of the other, they > peddled around > the track until the other one was on their @ss and then ran > together like > two bats out of h*ll. I can pretty safely say that those guys would have been parked and then not invited back to a GGC event. We have a very low tolerance for stuff like that since we operate under the principle that driving schools are for the STUDENTS, not the instructors. Fortunately, we have a dedicated cadre of very, very talented instructors who feel the same way. I cannot even begin to say how good they are. Even Jim. :) On that topic, join us at Thunderhill on August 26/27. Registration is open now. http://www.ggcbmwcca.org - Mark Driving Events Coordinator, GGC BMW CCA ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar