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#1. Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? - from Kent Shephard
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:39:48 -0700 From: Kent Shephard <Kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? Nah. Doesn't go with the beard. But the wife wears makeup sometimes. She, on the other hand, looks good in makeup or without it. Kent Shephard kents@kshephard.com On Jun 5, 2006, at 10:34 PM, Mark Dadgar wrote: > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 22:29:03 -0700 > From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? > > On Jun 5, 2006, at 10:24 PM, Kent Shephard wrote: >> Nope, I don't vote that way. >> Amsoil in all the vehicles I own. Only Amsoil. > > Do you wear Mary Kay cosmetics, too? > > <ducking> > > - Mark > ----- > mark@pdc-racing.net > > Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: > http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 06:17:34 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? Preach it brother!! Amsoil here. Paul L Fisher 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU Titanium Silver Metallic 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Kent Shephard [mailto:Kents@kls-consulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 12:25 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 22:16:40 -0700 From: Kent Shephard <Kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? Nope, I don't vote that way. Amsoil in all the vehicles I own. Only Amsoil. Now.... Let the war begin. Oil is religion. Kent Shephard kents@kshephard.com On Jun 5, 2006, at 9:44 PM, Kelvin wrote: > Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:34:49 -0700 > From: Kelvin <yoda@obikwan.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? > > Guys, > No offense taken. I'm here to learn more about my car. I remember > the days with the BMW digest from when I had my E30M3. So I know > about the sarcasm on the BMW lists. I prefer it to the "noise" > that are on other car forums contain. At least I can learn > something here. > > So given what I've learn, I can go further between oil changes if i > run synthetics. Of course, it's hard to teach an old dog new > tricks. 3k vs. 7k'ish. This will require me to take "baby steps" > on the oil change intervals. =P > > So the consensus is: 0-40w Mobil1 or German Castrol 0w30 (german > made) > > Thanks! > -kelvin "who's somewhat thickskinned" > > Jim Bassett wrote: >> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 20:22:20 -0700 (PDT) >> From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> >> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? >> >> On Mon, June 5, 2006 7:14 pm, Rich Dorffer said: >> >>> Sorry Kelvin, I will take this one step further than Jim, >>> >> >> Well, I'm trying to "play nice" over here :-) Besides, he's new >> here, I >> can cut him some slack. >> >> And for the record, I agree with the rest of what Rich said. >> >> Jim Bassett - sarcastic SOB (you'll get used to it, Kelvin :-)) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 6/2/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/355 - Release Date: 6/2/2006
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? - from Carey Probst
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Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 08:28:10 -0400 From: Carey Probst <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? Speaking of the Oil religion. I vote for Lubro Moly 0W40 in my M3 and Mobil 1 15W50 in the 325 during track season, 10W30 in winter in NY Kent Shephard wrote: > > Nope, I don't vote that way. > Amsoil in all the vehicles I own. Only Amsoil. > > Now.... Let the war begin. Oil is religion. > Carey Probst '99M3 daily driver '86 325 track toy, cammed, chipped, swayed A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? - from geoff atkinson
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Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 09:38:46 -0400 From: "geoff atkinson" <pskalc@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? Kent, It is funny how oil discussions do turn into a "religion" type of discussion. My cars (VW R32, e30 M3 track car, '95 M3 street/track) and other cars that are close to me (except the fiance's e46 M3, on Castrol 10w-60) all are running on Elf Excellium LDX 5W-40. I have been really liking it, and have been changing it at 5k miles in street vehicles... Easy to remember via the odometer... I've been seeing slightly lower temps and better pressures on my gauges, too, since the change from Mobil 1... Weird? Anyone else using this oil? -Geoff Atkinson Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 22:16:40 -0700 From: Kent Shephard <Kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? Nope, I don't vote that way. Amsoil in all the vehicles I own. Only Amsoil. Now.... Let the war begin. Oil is religion. Kent Shephard kents@kshephard.com
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#5. Re: Rear Lower Control Arm Bushings - Replacement Tool? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 09:51:45 -0400 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Rear Lower Control Arm Bushings - Replacement Tool? on 6/6/06 2:34 AM, "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> wrote: > Can anybody point me to a DIY for the RLCABs? Any specific tool I need? > Pelican indicates that this (33-32-1-136-311-M69) is the correct part..can > anybody confirm? No, it's the wrong part! This is a longstanding error on the PP web site which I've brought to their attention, but they still haven't corrected. It would be correct for a 95 M3, which uses this plain rubber bushing, but not for the 96+ where a ball joint is used. This ball joint is the same as used on the upper CA. The right PP part number is 33-32-1-140-345-M69 and can also be seen on their page here: <http://www.pelicanparts.com/bmw/catalog/shopcart/BE36/POR_BE36_SUSshk_pg7.h tm> You can confirm these P/N's at <http://www.realoem.com/bmw/select.do> on 6/6/06 2:34 AM, Steve Klein <s.klein@steveklein.cc> wrote: > I would love to hear about any tools for this. I rigged one up once, > but it barely made the task due to the fact that the bushing angles > into the wheel hub. > > Now, I'm waiting for new eccentric bolts and outer bushings as I've > managed to snap the nut end off of one. Much to my dismay, the bolt > itself is seized to the inner metal sleeve of the bushing and won't > budge. I can move the front half of the control arm out of the way, > but the back half is firmly fixed in place and I'm fretting exactly > how I'm going to remove the bolt and bushing to replace them. I encountered this same problem when installing the excellent RE adjustable LCA's, and posted about it at the time: on 4/3/06 2:09 PM, Neil Maller at neil.maller@gte.net wrote: > In my case the outer eccentric pivot bolt was also frozen into its stock > bushing (actually a ball joint). Nothing, and I mean nothing, would get it > out. In the end I cut off the stock arm and used a large Pitman arm puller to > burst the ball joint, then cut and air-chiseled out the mangled remains and > pressed in a new one using the 12mm screw from my VPD RTAB puller and some > large sockets as pusher and receiver. A PITA, but not all that hard once I > figured out how to do it. For reference the ball joint OD is a measured 45.4mm so your pusher socket OD needs to be just a bit less than that, and the receiver socket ID a bit more. To press the new one in you'll need a 12mm or 7/16" max threaded rod. Be careful not to tear the outer rubber boots of the new ball joint. Neil 96 M3
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#6. Re: RLCA Bushings - Replacement Tool? - from Steve Klein
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 09:22:44 -0500 From: Steve Klein <s.klein@steveklein.cc> Subject: Re: RLCA Bushings - Replacement Tool? Good points, Neil. I should have mentioned that I've got a '95. Will the '96+ ball joints fit in the '95s? Unfortunately, I can't sacrifice the lower CA to the cause, so I'm currently planning on drilling the head off the bolt from the back to free up the arm and get it out of the way. Unfortunately, that will still leave the shaft of the eccentric bolt stuck inside the bushing, so I may have to make a C clamp setup (thanks for the ID/OD measurements!) to get that thing out. I doubt there's enough rubber in there to gut the center ala RTABs, but I'll have the tools on hand to try. Thanks for the feedback, Steve On Jun 6, 2006, at 8:54 AM, Neil Maller wrote: > > No, it's the wrong part! > > This is a longstanding error on the PP web site which I've brought > to their > attention, but they still haven't corrected. It would be correct > for a 95 > M3, which uses this plain rubber bushing, but not for the 96+ where > a ball > joint is used. > > I encountered this same problem when installing the excellent RE > adjustable > LCA's, and posted about it at the time: > > on 4/3/06 2:09 PM, Neil Maller at neil.maller@gte.net wrote: > >> In my case the outer eccentric pivot bolt was also frozen into its >> stock >> bushing (actually a ball joint). Nothing, and I mean nothing, >> would get it >> out. In the end I cut off the stock arm and used a large Pitman >> arm puller to >> burst the ball joint, then cut and air-chiseled out the mangled >> remains and >> pressed in a new one using the 12mm screw from my VPD RTAB puller >> and some >> large sockets as pusher and receiver. A PITA, but not all that >> hard once I >> figured out how to do it. > > For reference the ball joint OD is a measured 45.4mm so your pusher > socket > OD needs to be just a bit less than that, and the receiver socket > ID a bit > more. To press the new one in you'll need a 12mm or 7/16" max > threaded rod. > Be careful not to tear the outer rubber boots of the new ball joint. > > Neil > 96 M3 > >
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#7. Re: RLCA Bushings - Replacement Tool? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 10:35:10 -0400 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: RLCA Bushings - Replacement Tool? on 6/6/06 10:22 AM, Steve Klein at s.klein@steveklein.cc wrote: > I should have mentioned that I've got a '95. Yeah, it was Peter, the original poster, who had the later model, so I wanted to cover that. > Will the '96+ ball joints fit in the '95s? They have the same dimensions, so it seems reasonable. The ball joint versions are about 3 times the price though. > Unfortunately, I can't sacrifice the lower CA to the cause, so I'm > currently planning on drilling the head off the bolt from the back to > free up the arm and get it out of the way. Unfortunately, that will > still leave the shaft of the eccentric bolt stuck inside the bushing, > so I may have to make a C clamp setup (thanks for the ID/OD > measurements!) to get that thing out. I doubt there's enough rubber > in there to gut the center ala RTABs, but I'll have the tools on hand > to try. I suspect it'll take a fair amount of force to push your rubber bushing out, so yes, it won't hurt to have tool options on hand. I have a whole bunch of large size impact sockets that I bought at a discount tool place for just this kind of improvisation. Good luck! Neil 96 M3
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#8. RE: [E36M3] Re: RLCA Bushings - Replacement Tool? - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:00:51 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: RLCA Bushings - Replacement Tool? Bimmerworld has an inexpensive crafted tool to remove the ball joints, works well. -----Original Message----- From: Neil Maller [mailto:neil.maller@gte.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:45 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: RLCA Bushings - Replacement Tool? Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 10:35:10 -0400 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: RLCA Bushings - Replacement Tool? on 6/6/06 10:22 AM, Steve Klein at s.klein@steveklein.cc wrote: > I should have mentioned that I've got a '95. Yeah, it was Peter, the original poster, who had the later model, so I wanted to cover that. > Will the '96+ ball joints fit in the '95s? They have the same dimensions, so it seems reasonable. The ball joint versions are about 3 times the price though. > Unfortunately, I can't sacrifice the lower CA to the cause, so I'm > currently planning on drilling the head off the bolt from the back to > free up the arm and get it out of the way. Unfortunately, that will > still leave the shaft of the eccentric bolt stuck inside the bushing, > so I may have to make a C clamp setup (thanks for the ID/OD > measurements!) to get that thing out. I doubt there's enough rubber > in there to gut the center ala RTABs, but I'll have the tools on hand > to try. I suspect it'll take a fair amount of force to push your rubber bushing out, so yes, it won't hurt to have tool options on hand. I have a whole bunch of large size impact sockets that I bought at a discount tool place for just this kind of improvisation. Good luck! Neil 96 M3 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: RLCA Bushings - Replacement Tool? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 11:09:01 -0400 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: RLCA Bushings - Replacement Tool? on 6/6/06 11:00 AM, Goss, Patrick - PA at Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM wrote: > Bimmerworld has an inexpensive crafted tool to remove the [rear control arm] > outerball joints, works well. Yeah, more than reasonable at $20. Unfortunately my need for rear ball joint removal was entirely unplanned, or I might have bought one. Luckily I had the means on hand to improvise. Neil 96 M3
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? - from mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 11:43:07 -0400 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? Kent, It's a good thing to say the SO looks good without make-up or you might be sleeping in the M3. Never done that myself -- yet! regards, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe (sponsored by WCC & JT-Designs) Philly Region SCCA 2005 Philly Region BSP Champion -----Original Message----- From: Kent Shephard <Kents@kls-consulting.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 01:44:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:39:48 -0700 From: Kent Shephard <Kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? Nah. Doesn't go with the beard. But the wife wears makeup sometimes. She, on the other hand, looks good in makeup or without it. Kent Shephard kents@kshephard.com On Jun 5, 2006, at 10:34 PM, Mark Dadgar wrote: > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 22:29:03 -0700 > From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Synthetic Oil needed? > > On Jun 5, 2006, at 10:24 PM, Kent Shephard wrote: >> Nope, I don't vote that way. >> Amsoil in all the vehicles I own. Only Amsoil. > > Do you wear Mary Kay cosmetics, too? > > <ducking> > > - Mark > ----- > mark@pdc-racing.net > > Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: > http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.