E36M3 #4842

Saturday, June 24, 2006 11:47:29

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Cyclone Separator, Valve Cover Gasket and O2 Sensors - from Jim Bassett
#2. Re: [E36M3] Cyclone Separator, Valve Cover Gasket and O2 Sensors - from Jim Bassett
#3. Re: [E36M3] Cyclone Separator, Valve Cover Gasket and O2 Sensors - from dgcrum@jps.net
#4. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Conforti Chip Check Engine Light Code? - from Marco
#5. Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente - from Jeff Conner
#6. Re: Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
#7. Re: [E36M3] Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente - from Jay G
#8. Re: [E36M3] Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente - from Jay Hudson
#9. Re: [E36M3] Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente - from twisty M3
#10. Re: [E36M3] Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente - from Jamie Howton

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Cyclone Separator, Valve Cover Gasket and O2 Sensors - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:24:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Cyclone Separator, Valve Cover Gasket and O2 Sensors On Fri, June 23, 2006 2:56 pm, Raza Uddin said: > I was wondering about that also. I think it was DonE's article in Roundel from May(?) about code readers that explained the funtion of the pre- and post-cat sensors. > Obviously, but the only times I've seen are when you have a track weekend > planned. :) Which makes today all the stranger <g>, since I'm only going up to Sears to watch the WC stuff tomorrow. No driving. Weird :-) Jim Bassett

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Cyclone Separator, Valve Cover Gasket and O2 Sensors - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:25:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Cyclone Separator, Valve Cover Gasket and O2 Sensors On Fri, June 23, 2006 2:56 pm, Jason Knight said: > I'm pretty sure it's that thing in the back of the > truck in Twister. ;-) LOL! > Fortunately, it's almost beer o'clock. After this past week, I'm looking forward to Scotch-thirty :-) Jim Bassett

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Cyclone Separator, Valve Cover Gasket and O2 Sensors - from dgcrum@jps.net
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:40:02 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: dgcrum@jps.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Cyclone Separator, Valve Cover Gasket and O2 Sensors Raza, >> As I understood it, the post-cat sensors were the ones that checked the >> efficiency of the cats? But, then, I've already been wrong once in the last >> 24 hours, so..... :-) > >I was wondering about that also. I guess the pre-cats O2s tend to go more >quickly and more often and might cause more problems for most people. I'm >beginning to think that if I find myself changing any O2 sensors, I'm might >as well do all of them. But there is a little part of me that thinks that >is somewhat wasteful, especially if some might be functioning properly. The pre-cat O2 sensors are the regulation sensors that the ECU uses to adjust fuel mixture. The post-cat sensors are used by the OBD-II section of the ECO simply to monitor the efficiency of the cats. I replaced only the pre-cat sensors based on Ramon LF's recommendation and that solved the similar CE and drivability issues my '96 was suffering a few months ago with no reoccurances. The cyclone filter can be cleaned out. All it does is capture the oil vapor and send it back to the oil pan via the lower end of the dipstick tube (that's a technical term...) Check the o-ring that seals the dipstick tube to the pan as a potential source of leaks. David 96 M3 - 179k miles, original cyclone filter

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#4. RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Conforti Chip Check Engine Light Code? - from Marco
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:04:57 -0700 From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] [E36M3] Conforti Chip Check Engine Light Code? yes it works. Some cars are more tempermental than others. The 95 M3 was very easy. The 93 325is was about a 1 in 10 success rate. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Tom Tice [mailto:tetice@triad.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 9:47 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] [E36M3] Conforti Chip Check Engine Light Code? Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 00:40:24 -0400 From: "Tom Tice" <tetice@triad.rr.com> Subject: Conforti Chip Check Engine Light Code? Does anyone know if the flashing CE light scheme to decipher codes works with Conforti OBDI chips? I"ve got a CE light and can't get it to flash at all with the usual 5 quick pumps of the accelerator. TIA, Tom Tice '98 M3/4 '93 325iS '02 325iT/5 '02 X5 4.4 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#5. Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente - from Jeff Conner
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:05:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> Subject: Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente Hey all, One of the items the mech who did my PPI for the 98 sedan I bought was the radiator replacement. He said it should happen "closer to 60k miles than 80k" due to a number of factors. I recently turned over 45k on the odometer, and I'm staring to wonder if I should just nip the problem in the bud, rather than wait til I have no choice. Like at Thunderhill in August. What I'm trying to figure out is if I should just go with another stock radiator, or should I pony up the 3x (or more) for all aluminum. There has been some discussion of turning the car into a gutted, track only toy, but that's down the road. Is there any significant advantage to spending the extra money? Thanks, -jeff --------------------------------- Yahoo! Sports Fantasy Football ’06 - Go with the leader. Start your league today!

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#6. Re: Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:04:03 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente Jeff asks: Is there any significant advantage to spending the extra money? (for aluminum radiator) Yes. You will have much greater cooling capacity. Neil Maller was an early adopter of an aftermarket aluminum radiator. He reported a very significant drop in oil temperature. In fact, he might have gotten a greater drop in oil temperature from the aluminum radiator than his oil cooler. If you are thinking of making your M3 a track car, I'd recommend the aluminum radiator before adding an oil cooler. By all accounts, adding an oil cooler to our U.S. M3's is a PITA. See if you even need an oil cooler after the radiator. Second significant advantage is longer life over another plastic neck OEM radiator. If you shop around, you can find an OEM radiator for approximately $150. So you can probably buy 4 OEM radiators for the price of one aluminum radiator. Maybe this isn't such an advantage if you don't mind changing radiators every few years. But you will have piece of mind. You won't be wondering "is this the day my radiator neck breaks - how much longer can I go?" Knowing Murphy, your OEM radiator will fail at the worst possible time causing the most damage and inconvenience. :-) Lowell Seaton '95 M3

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente - from Jay G
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:06:38 -1000 From: Jay G <jguzman@hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente the advantage is peace of mind...you'll pretty much never have to worry about it again... my stock one gave way last year ('97 M3, ~50k when it broke) when i was autocrossing...now i was looking for hints that the neck would break, and before every event, i'd check for any leaks, etc, but it just gave way all of a sudden... i went with the zionsville unit...perfect fit... Jeff Conner wrote: > Is there any significant advantage to spending the extra money?

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente - from Jay Hudson
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:40:25 -0700 From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente Peace of mind is probably the biggest benefit for me. Some additional cooling capacity. The bad things that can come of a broken radiator neck at the track: Over heated/grenaded motor Wadded up car Causing someon else's car to be wadded up Jay (Zionsville in my car) > Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:05:54 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jeff Conner <jeff.conner@yahoo.com> > Subject: Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente > > Hey all, > > One of the items the mech who did my PPI for the 98 sedan I bought was > the radiator replacement. He said it should happen "closer to 60k miles > than 80k" due to a number of factors. I recently turned over 45k on the > odometer, and I'm staring to wonder if I should just nip the problem in > the bud, rather than wait til I have no choice. Like at Thunderhill in > August. > > What I'm trying to figure out is if I should just go with another stock > radiator, or should I pony up the 3x (or more) for all aluminum. There has > been some discussion of turning the car into a gutted, track only toy, but > that's down the road. > > Is there any significant advantage to spending the extra money? > > Thanks, > > -jeff > >

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente - from twisty M3
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 08:19:07 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente My next radiator will be an aluminum unit. I replaced my first two radiators as preventative measures. First one was done at 70K miles and the second was done at 140K miles. I went with the S54-M Coupe as my second replacement, and the neck went out at Sears Point with only 20K, and I was forced to go with an OE unit because of timing and location. My biggest reason for the swap will be peace of mind, but for the last two track weekends in 100+ degree temps, I've been able to watch the temp gauge creep up to the 3/4 mark, when it never used to move beyond half... Ever. Okay, maybe once, but that's why I'm on motor #2 now. :( Not sure if it's because of the cams and new gears, so my RPMs are often higher than they used to be, but I'm definitely not comfortable with watching the factory gauge move, so an aluminum radiator and that new Stewart water pump are in my not-too-distant future, as well as some "real" gauges so I know some numbers and not just a vague range of movement on the factory unit. Jonathan L.

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:42:13 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Radiator Replacement - Thunderhill + August = muy caliente > What I'm trying to figure out is if I should just go with another stock radiator, or should I pony up the 3x (or more) for all aluminum. There has been some discussion of turning the car into a gutted, track only toy, but that's down the road. > As others have said it is worth the $$, it resulted in 25 degree cooler oil temps on the track for me after fighting with overheating and going through two stock radiators in two years. The overheating issue cost me a head gasket replacement too which wasn't really a lot of fun. I went with the Zionsville unit with the Aluminum water tank and Spal fan, it fit perfectly. -- Jamie Howton 2006 M Roadster 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL

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