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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Mounting Hot Lap Timer Receiver - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 09:19:08 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Mounting Hot Lap Timer Receiver Interestingly enough, when I switched to State Farm insurance here in WA, I did so because the local CCA chapter members indicated that they were willing to cover incidents at track events. I asked a number of pointed questions about this and was told that it would be accecptable to carry a timing device in my car at a HPDE event because it would be considered a teaching tool. As long as the event itself was not a race, I am covered, I have been told. Food for thought... Gus On 7/5/06, Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> wrote: > Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 10:03:54 -0400 > From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> > Subject: Re: Mounting Hot Lap Timer Receiver > > on 7/5/06 3:06 AM, "Raza Uddin" <raza.uddin@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Any particular reason, besides CCA focuses on teaching/learning, that timers > > are verboten? > > Speaking generally, auto insurance policies exclude coverage for > "competitive or timed events." Use of a timing device such as the Hot Lap, > which requires a fixed base unit, might be construed as blanket approval for > timing on the part of the organizers. This would potentially put insurance > coverage of every single participant in jeopardy. > > On the other hand it's not practical to have a Chronometer Police to control > personal use of self-contained in car timing devices, from stopwatches to > data acquisition systems. These also arguably have legitimate value for > measuring individual driver development. > > For related reasons, when Club Races are held during a school weekend as > they often are, a separate staff is used and different published rules apply > to each event. > > Neil > 96 M3 > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Re: Mounting Hot Lap Timer Receiver - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 11:39:17 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Mounting Hot Lap Timer Receiver Do you have this in writing from State Farm? Paul L Fisher 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU Titanium Silver Metallic 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Gus Iverson [mailto:gus.iverson@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:27 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Mounting Hot Lap Timer Receiver Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 09:19:08 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Mounting Hot Lap Timer Receiver Interestingly enough, when I switched to State Farm insurance here in WA, I did so because the local CCA chapter members indicated that they were willing to cover incidents at track events. I asked a number of pointed questions about this and was told that it would be accecptable to carry a timing device in my car at a HPDE event because it would be considered a teaching tool. As long as the event itself was not a race, I am covered, I have been told. Food for thought... Gus On 7/5/06, Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> wrote: > Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 10:03:54 -0400 > From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> > Subject: Re: Mounting Hot Lap Timer Receiver > > on 7/5/06 3:06 AM, "Raza Uddin" <raza.uddin@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Any particular reason, besides CCA focuses on teaching/learning, that timers > > are verboten? > > Speaking generally, auto insurance policies exclude coverage for > "competitive or timed events." Use of a timing device such as the Hot Lap, > which requires a fixed base unit, might be construed as blanket approval for > timing on the part of the organizers. This would potentially put insurance > coverage of every single participant in jeopardy. > > On the other hand it's not practical to have a Chronometer Police to control > personal use of self-contained in car timing devices, from stopwatches to > data acquisition systems. These also arguably have legitimate value for > measuring individual driver development. > > For related reasons, when Club Races are held during a school weekend as > they often are, a separate staff is used and different published rules apply > to each event. > > Neil > 96 M3 > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Re: Mounting Hot Lap Timer Receiver - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 09:45:22 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Mounting Hot Lap Timer Receiver I do not, but the policy I recieved had zero exclusions in it for track events. The word I got on timing devices and HPDEs was from my agent who has a very good record with the local track driving community and has handled several claims resulting from track incidents. On 7/5/06, Paul L Fisher <bmw@paul-fisher.com> wrote: > Do you have this in writing from State Farm? > > Paul L Fisher > > 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU Titanium Silver Metallic > 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic > 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red > > Elkhorn, WI. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gus Iverson [mailto:gus.iverson@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:27 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Mounting Hot Lap Timer Receiver > > Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 09:19:08 -0700 > From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Mounting Hot Lap Timer Receiver > > Interestingly enough, when I switched to State Farm insurance here in > WA, I did so because the local CCA chapter members indicated that they > were willing to cover incidents at track events. I asked a number of > pointed questions about this and was told that it would be accecptable > to carry a timing device in my car at a HPDE event because it would be > considered a teaching tool. As long as the event itself was not a > race, I am covered, I have been told. > > Food for thought... > > Gus > > On 7/5/06, Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> wrote: > > Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 10:03:54 -0400 > > From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> > > Subject: Re: Mounting Hot Lap Timer Receiver > > > > on 7/5/06 3:06 AM, "Raza Uddin" <raza.uddin@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Any particular reason, besides CCA focuses on teaching/learning, that > timers > > > are verboten? > > > > Speaking generally, auto insurance policies exclude coverage for > > "competitive or timed events." Use of a timing device such as the Hot Lap, > > which requires a fixed base unit, might be construed as blanket approval > for > > timing on the part of the organizers. This would potentially put insurance > > coverage of every single participant in jeopardy. > > > > On the other hand it's not practical to have a Chronometer Police to > control > > personal use of self-contained in car timing devices, from stopwatches to > > data acquisition systems. These also arguably have legitimate value for > > measuring individual driver development. > > > > For related reasons, when Club Races are held during a school weekend as > > they often are, a separate staff is used and different published rules > apply > > to each event. > > > > Neil > > 96 M3 > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006 > > >
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#4. RE: [E36M3] tranny leak help - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 09:46:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] tranny leak help On Wed, July 5, 2006 5:46 am, Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com said: > Would thread sealer be too obvious a suggestion? Thinking to my own issues with the trans drain plug on the race car, this was, obviously, not obvious to me :-) Any "typical" auto parts store should have this? > I didn't use teflon tape but that may work as well. Tried that, didn't work so well :-) > Carlos > 98 M3 leaky trans plug (no longer leaking) Excellent! Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - oil leak in the vicinity of the dipstick tube 1993 325is #44 JP - trans drain plug leak, just enough to dirty the underside of the car (blech!)
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#5. RE: [E36M3] tranny leak help - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 13:06:11 -0400 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] tranny leak help >Any "typical" auto parts store should have this? I think I saw it on some show, definitely not Motor Week with our own Pat Goss. :-) I finally found it at an auto parts store so I bought some. It's basically like teflon tape except it's in a small container and in liquid form with an applicator brush. Has the texture of melted marshmallows. >> I didn't use teflon tape but that may work as well. >Tried that, didn't work so well :-) I would use teflon tape if I only needed a really thin application however I got a little carried away with the blob of sealer I put on the drain plug but it worked. -Carlos 98 M3
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#6. RE: [E36M3] tranny leak help - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 13:09:21 -0400 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] tranny leak help >Has the texture of melted marshmallows. Correction. I meant consistency. Or something. -Carlos.
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#7. RE: [E36M3] tranny leak help - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 10:18:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] tranny leak help On Wed, July 5, 2006 10:16 am, Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com said: >>Has the texture of melted marshmallows. > > Correction. I meant consistency. Or something. Well, at least you didn't say "taste". Oh, wait, you're *Carlos*, not *Chester*. Nevermind.... :-) Jim Bassett
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#8. Front Control Arm Question - from kresener@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 13:19:35 -0400 From: kresener@aol.com Subject: Front Control Arm Question I'm having new front control arms put on my car today, shop just called to say that they received the wrong control arm for the left side and can't get the correct arm for my early production '95 M3 today, but they can get a set of control arms for a '96 - '99 M3.... It's a different part number, does anyone know what the difference is and if a '96 control arm will go on my '95? Thanks! Kurt (trying to get to the track this weekend...) ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
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#9. e36 v e46 M3; opinions? - from Jason Olin
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 10:25:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Olin <jtolin64@yahoo.com> Subject: e36 v e46 M3; opinions? I'm thinking of selling my 97 M3, and want to see how you folks would contrast an e36 M3v an e46 M3 as a daily driver . I plan to go test drive one, but want to hear from those of you who have more experience than I would get from a 20 minute test drive. My M3 really is a lot of fun (compared to a Mini Cooper S, Saab 9-3, c320). Is the added HP more fun...or hard to control? Is the steering as light? Does the car feel as tossable? Is the gearbox as mushy? Has anyone switched to an e46 and said, "why did I do this?" I recall someone writing a few years back that they disliked the M5 because it didn't seem as much fun as the M3, so I'm curious. I'd probably go for a 2003-2004 model. Thanks, Jason 98K mi; coupe, Koni suspension, Sharked software and intake
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Front Control Arm Question - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 14:28:37 -0400 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front Control Arm Question >It's a different part number, does anyone know what the difference is and if a '96 control arm will go on my '95? Your caster will be screwed up, but they do bolt up. The wheel is going to sit further fwd than its normal spot in the wheel well. The problem is that if they install the one control arm that doesn't belong are they going to cover replacing it with the correct one once your track event is over and they get the new one? Also what are they doing about the c/a bushings? If they are the rubber ones then if they install a 2nd control arm they'll likely have to trash the one that's on the incorrect control arm. Too many issues in my opinion, I would tell them no and try harder to find the correct one. I bet a list sponsor or two carry these. -Carlos.
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#11. Re: [E36M3] Front Control Arm Question - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 11:31:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front Control Arm Question The arms are very different and setup for different suspension geometries. I wouldn't go with a '96+ control arm on the '95. You have different steering knuckles and different control arm bushings (in the back...one is offset and one is concentric). The caster settings are different between the two cars. At least, IIRC. Chester --- kresener@aol.com wrote: > I'm having new front control arms put on my car today, shop just called to > say that they received the wrong control arm for the left side and can't get > the correct arm for my early production '95 M3 today, but they can get a set > of control arms for a '96 - '99 M3.... > > It's a different part number, does anyone know what the difference is and if > a '96 control arm will go on my '95?
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#12. Re: [E36M3] e36 v e46 M3; opinions? - from Shelhart2@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 14:33:27 EDT From: Shelhart2@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] e36 v e46 M3; opinions? I sold my 98 to a fellow lister and bought a 2004 Silver Gray coupe 1 year ago. The additional horsepower is great and it is a bit more modern and "grown up" looking. The ride was much too soft and it definately feels heavier than my E36. The rasp in the exhaust note was irritating to me, however, some like it. To me it sounds weak. The shifter had too much play as well. I think for the bang for your buck it is better to stay with the E36. It ends up being a simple factor of how much money you have to part with and the strength of your personal balance sheet. I've since put an adjustable Dinan suspension, 19" BBS RSGT rims, Rogue short shifter, Rogue underdrive pullies, a new cold air intake and a UUC "Rasp X" pipe to eliminate the rasp. The car looks great and now feels quite a bit stiffer. It is still not as stiff as my 98 but has more get up and go. Bottom line is that I miss the 98 but had a little cash and was getting bored. I like the E46 and will hold onto it. Not too many regrets. The new 2 seater coupe certainlky looks like an interesting option... Shel