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#1. Thanks...Re: [E36M3] e36 v e46 M3; opinions? - from Jason Olin
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 05:17:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Olin <jtolin64@yahoo.com> Subject: Thanks...Re: [E36M3] e36 v e46 M3; opinions? Folks- Thanks so much for your advice about e30s v e36s v e46s. The good news is that the discussion has not digressed to include 911s, Corvettes, i350s, and WRXs...yet. ;-) What's prompted my looking in the first place has been the desire for a car that can withstand impacts better than my car (no side airbags for 5/97 production cars). Having a young kid makes one more sensitive to risk (as well as a colleague dying last year in a Jetta on the NJ Turnpike). A friend thinks that the risk is minimal (e.g., 25y of driving with the only side impact being on the passenger's side), so this could be me making much of nothing. It would be nice to have a car that has less wrinkles on the seats, but that's not a major issue. I miss my '92 Miata, and know that when I sell this car, I'll miss it too. Perhaps the truism "you can't go home again" applies to cars, too. --At least to those of us who get attached to their vehicles. There's a 2003 M3 at JMK so I'll try to go and see what it's like. Again, thanks so much for your impressions! This is a great list. Jason
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#2. e36 v e46 M3; opinions? - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 10:07:54 -0400 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: e36 v e46 M3; opinions? Jason, Hello. I drove a student's e46 M3 at Watkins Glen a few months back. Here are my quick impressions.. Good Power! Running up the S's was VERY nice! Car felt very well planted. Gearbox felt fine. Bad Steering - It did not talk to me like the e36 Felt Large & heavy compared to the e36 - Definately not as tossable as the e36. I did not like the seats. As a street car, the e46 would be a nice car.. Please remember that this is just my opinion after driving it on the track, and I have also driven several of them on the street. Good luck Mo -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 10:25:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Olin <jtolin64@yahoo.com> Subject: e36 v e46 M3; opinions? I'm thinking of selling my 97 M3, and want to see how you folks would contrast an e36 M3v an e46 M3 as a daily driver . I plan to go test drive one, but want to hear from those of you who have more experience than I would get from a 20 minute test drive. My M3 really is a lot of fun (compared to a Mini Cooper S, Saab 9-3, c320). Is the added HP more fun...or hard to control? Is the steering as light? Does the car feel as tossable? Is the gearbox as mushy? Has anyone switched to an e46 and said, "why did I do this?" I recall someone writing a few years back that they disliked the M5 because it didn't seem as much fun as the M3, so I'm curious. I'd probably go for a 2003-2004 model. Thanks, Jason 98K mi; coupe, Koni suspension, Sharked software and intake
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#3. RE: RSM/RTAB Question - from James Clay
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:17:56 -0400 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: RE: RSM/RTAB Question The RTAB shouldn't have much of an effect on the RSM area of the car. It could be a contributing factor, but I would think that most likely it is just a poor design on the factory RSM, which begins to wear, then transmits the stress of more play and movement to the metal. James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com http://www.bimmerworldracing.com http://www.powerflexusa.com Race Proven BMW Performance 877.639.9648
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#4. RE: [E36M3] Factory lwt wing - from NabliLaw
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:49:28 -0400 From: "NabliLaw" <nabli@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Factory lwt wing The "factory" lightweight wing that was available with the 95 LTW did not have the integrated third brake light out of the box. It was "modified" (i.e., hacked) by PTG or some other source to integrate the third brake light. This is part number 51 71 2 489 685. The ltw wing with the integrated light is 51 71 9 410 981. Putting aside the third brake light (or lack thereof) the bottom part of both wing kits are not identical. You could also use the risers (i.e., spacers) with them but that part is NLA. BMW specified that you must use the ltw front spoiler kit with the rear wing kit because of aerodynamics. Cheers, Jim E. -----Original Message----- From: Jstowe [mailto:jrstowe@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 4:37 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Factory lwt wing Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 13:28:37 -0700 From: "Jstowe" <jrstowe@comcast.net> Subject: Factory lwt wing Did the the factory lightweight wing have an integrated brakelight? thnx Jeff
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#5. Re: [E36M3] e36 v e46 M3; opinions? - from Kent Shephard
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:33:23 -0700 From: Kent Shephard <Kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] e36 v e46 M3; opinions? I could go for that. Kent Shephard kents@kshephard.com On Jul 5, 2006, at 6:46 PM, Jay G wrote: > Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:37:09 -1000 > From: Jay G <jguzman@hawaii.edu> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] e36 v e46 M3; opinions? > > then it's settled...S54 in an E30 M3 would make the ultimate M3 :) > > Kent Shephard wrote: > >> This is an interesting comparison especially since my last car was >> an E30. >> The same things people say about the E36 compared to the E46 are >> the same things I say about the E30 to E36 comparison. >> The later car is heavier, less responsive stock, better >> engine.............. > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#6. Re: [E36M3] e36 v e46 M3; opinions? - from Gary
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 14:29:41 -0500 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] e36 v e46 M3; opinions? With a six speed, forced induction, stoptechs yeahh ...hmmm I have 91M3 shell ;-) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Shephard" <Kents@kls-consulting.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] e36 v e46 M3; opinions? > Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:33:23 -0700 > From: Kent Shephard <Kents@kls-consulting.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] e36 v e46 M3; opinions? > > I could go for that. > > Kent Shephard > kents@kshephard.com > > > > On Jul 5, 2006, at 6:46 PM, Jay G wrote: > >> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:37:09 -1000 >> From: Jay G <jguzman@hawaii.edu> >> Subject: Re: [E36M3] e36 v e46 M3; opinions? >> >> then it's settled...S54 in an E30 M3 would make the ultimate M3 :) >> >> Kent Shephard wrote: >> >>> This is an interesting comparison especially since my last car was an >>> E30. >>> The same things people say about the E36 compared to the E46 are the >>> same things I say about the E30 to E36 comparison. >>> The later car is heavier, less responsive stock, better >>> engine.............. >> >> >> ************************************************* >> Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >> >> Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >> Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >> Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >> Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >> Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >> Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com >> >> DIGEST INFORMATION: >> http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >> ************************************************* >> >> > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#7. For Sale 1995 M3 Parts - from FranKirsten
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 12:53:32 -0700 From: "FranKirsten" <frankirsten@msn.com> Subject: For Sale 1995 M3 Parts The following parts are from 1995 M3 and are in used condition unless other wise specified. All prices include shipping. Offering here before ebay next week. Euro Air box with brake ducts and heat shield with Euro HFM (540 HFM) and Turner-Conforti Euro HFM chip (chip T413-301 on web as #4131-3001 for 1/95 and up 1995 M3s) all for $350. Turner-Conforti performance chip T413-300 for 1/95 build and up 1995 M3s (Turner chip number 4131-3000) with instructions for $125. Turner-Conforti performance chip T506-300 for pre - 1/95 build of 1995 M3s (Turner chip number 5060-3000) with instructions for $125. OEM Sway Bar Links, brand new and never used for $50. BMW 3 Series Bentley and Haynes Service Manuals covering years 92-98, both for $45. OEM M3 Shifter for $35. Radiator with approximately 26K miles, necks are in great condition and no leaks, for $60. Bimmer World Drive Line Stabilizer kit new and never used, it is a weld on bracket with adjustable joint used to reduce engine movement, for $50. I take PayPal and if you have any questions, just let me know. Cordially, Frank
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#8. What the? - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 15:15:14 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: What the? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-E36-323i-325i-328i-M3-92-99-Exhaust-H eader-Headers_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33630QQihZ018QQitemZ28000304395 9QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
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#9. Re: [E36M3] What the? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 13:27:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] What the? On Thu, July 6, 2006 1:16 pm, Goss, Patrick - PA said: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-E36-323i-325i-328i-M3-92-99-Exhaust-H > eader-Headers_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33630QQihZ018QQitemZ28000304395 > 9QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW Those are headers - the part of the exhaust system that bolts directly to the engine. :-) Or did you have a more specific question? :-) Jim Bassett - can you tell that I'm already on my way to the track, mentally?
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#10. RE: [E36M3] What the? - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 15:37:31 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] What the? Thanks Mr. Jim "track on the brain", Bassett. Yeah I know that, just surprised by price for stainless, material may come close to that... Maybe it's a teaser, the hardware may cost another 300 bucks, or custom design requires pulling the motor, or cutting the frame... Good luck racing Jim! -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:28 PM To: Goss, Patrick - PA Cc: e36m3@bmw-m.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] What the? On Thu, July 6, 2006 1:16 pm, Goss, Patrick - PA said: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-E36-323i-325i-328i-M3-92-99-Exhaust-H > eader-Headers_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33630QQihZ018QQitemZ28000304395 > 9QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW Those are headers - the part of the exhaust system that bolts directly to the engine. :-) Or did you have a more specific question? :-) Jim Bassett - can you tell that I'm already on my way to the track, mentally?