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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... - from Reid Conti
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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:14:16 -0700 From: "Reid Conti" <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... First of all, 1qt per 1000 miles, especially using 20w50, sounds really high. I burned MAYBE a half to a quart in 5000 miles in my 95 S50, and the S52 in my 2000 M Coupe doesn't seem to burn a drop no matter how hard I run it! The S52 M3's must get significantly better mileage than the S50's. In mixed driving in the 95, I'd usually get around 20, but never could really break 22-23 on the highway, with the exception of a trip I took just after changing the fuel filter, where I got 24.5. Keep in mind that I tend to cruise at 80+, but I simply can't imagine getting 28mpg on the freeway unless I had the cruise set at 50. I was running 5W30, btw. - reid
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... - from Raza Uddin
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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:15:31 -0700 From: "Raza Uddin" <raza.uddin@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... On 7/20/06, Dan Malloy <dfmalloy@cox.net> wrote: > > I reset one of the mileage calculators in my '95 when I bought it ('96) > and never reset it again; it has stayed in the 23-24 mpg range since the > first tank on CA 91 gas. You've never had to disconnect the battery or lost significant battery voltage in 10 years? The OBC will lose all its memory when the battery is disconnected, rendering the consumption figures only applicable from battery disconnect to battery disconnect. I usually reset consumption1 to give me MPG per fill up and consumption2 to give me overall MPG per oil change. Personally, I average about 19mpg, but that includes at least a couple of autocrosses a month and perhaps a track day (where I see 8.0mpg). Also, my car sees 70% city 30% highway driving. I do average about 26-28mpg on the highway though. Car is S52 with Dinan Intake, Stage II software, and Exhaust, stock 3.23 diff, but with 255/40s in the rear and 125K on the Odo. Drive Safely, Raza
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:17:56 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... Just as an experiment, my last two tanks of gas, primarily spent commuting, I've attempted to adjust my driving style for maximum fuel efficiency. Result is 26 MPG (by OBC which is typically accurate for me to within 5%). My standard results are between 21 and 23 excepting track days which read 8. Bear in mind, I also reset the speed measurement before I left on my commute this morning. Averaged 19.6 MPH for 15.9 miles. :( Gus
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#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:42:17 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... My M Roadster (S52) get 26 MPG on average. Not really highway driving, definitely not city driving. It normally sees 70-80 MPH and usually goes 140+ once a week or so. Running Amsoil European Car Formula Synthetic 5W-40. Burns a quart at about 13,000 miles into its 15,000 mile oil change interval. Of course, we run 87 octane so that would get better mileage. Paul L Fisher 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU Titanium Silver Metallic 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Reid Conti [mailto:reid@conti.net] Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:16 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:14:16 -0700 From: "Reid Conti" <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... First of all, 1qt per 1000 miles, especially using 20w50, sounds really high. I burned MAYBE a half to a quart in 5000 miles in my 95 S50, and the S52 in my 2000 M Coupe doesn't seem to burn a drop no matter how hard I run it! The S52 M3's must get significantly better mileage than the S50's. In mixed driving in the 95, I'd usually get around 20, but never could really break 22-23 on the highway, with the exception of a trip I took just after changing the fuel filter, where I got 24.5. Keep in mind that I tend to cruise at 80+, but I simply can't imagine getting 28mpg on the freeway unless I had the cruise set at 50. I was running 5W30, btw. - reid -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.2/393 - Release Date: 7/19/2006
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:43:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... On Thu, July 20, 2006 10:15 am, Reid Conti said: > First of all, 1qt per 1000 miles, especially using 20w50, sounds > really high. According to BMW, for a '95 M3 it's not all that high (I don't have a spec for the 96+ motors). See: http://www.bmw-m.net/techdata/95m3.htm Page 8. You want "high"? I'm currently at about 1 quart every 600-700 miles on the M3 :-) Yes, there's a bottom-end rebuild/new motor in my future <g> - already done a valve job. Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:51:04 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... Does anyone have a copy of a similar sheet for the 96+ engines? It would be very interesting to see. When I go to the track, I typically consume about 1 quart of oil over the course of the day. If I drive "spiritedly" on the street, I see about 1 quart of oil consumption every thousand miles or so. I figured I was just in for a rebuild at some point. If this is normal, I'll stop worrying as much. Gus On 7/20/06, Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:43:06 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... > > On Thu, July 20, 2006 10:15 am, Reid Conti said: > > First of all, 1qt per 1000 miles, especially using 20w50, sounds > > really high. > > According to BMW, for a '95 M3 it's not all that high (I don't have a spec > for the 96+ motors). > > See: > http://www.bmw-m.net/techdata/95m3.htm > Page 8. > > You want "high"? I'm currently at about 1 quart every 600-700 miles on the > M3 :-) Yes, there's a bottom-end rebuild/new motor in my future <g> - > already done a valve job. > > Cheers, > Jim Bassett > 1998 M3/4 > 1993 325is #44 JP > >
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:58:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: MPG question... On Thu, July 20, 2006 10:51 am, Gus Iverson said: > Does anyone have a copy of a similar sheet for the 96+ engines? It > would be very interesting to see. There's a small chance I may have something (possibly a TSB, downloaded from the list web site before Suzy had to take them down :-)) on the home computer. I'll try to remember to check tonight. > When I go to the track, I typically consume about 1 quart of oil over > the course of the day. If I drive "spiritedly" on the street, I see > about 1 quart of oil consumption every thousand miles or so. That street consumption I would characterize as at the "high end of normal". > I figured > I was just in for a rebuild at some point. If this is normal, I'll > stop worrying as much. I'd keep an eye on it. If it starts to increase, then I'd start planning on a rebuild. I was in a similar situation, using 1qt every 1000 miles or more. Then the consumption increased; we did valve job, no change. So next is bottom-end. Sigh. But, since the car *just* passed CA smog (by *1* PPM in HC :-)), I have 2 years to get it done. Jim Bassett
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#8. [E36M3] Online purchases - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:12:38 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: [E36M3] Online purchases > > From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM > > Note on Paypal, they changed the dispute process since I last went > through one about 9 months ago. They no longer handle claims with > respect to quality, just delivery only. > > Example: Just bought a euro m-tec steering wheel advertised like new, > received a heavily worn one, paypal denies claim. > > If the shipment gets lost, or is never sent they will back you. Lost > shipment is normally covered by the carrier, so really all paypal is > doing now is getting involved is claims against the deadbeat seller who > never ships out. > > So if you buy a really expensive 6spd for you M and it grinds after you > installed it, you're stuck! While most of what Patrick states about PayPal is true, you can still fund the payment via Paypal with your credit card and you still retain all the protection that your credit card affords. Therefore, you can always initiate the dispute with your credit card company and they will reverse the charges which will flow through PayPal and at least you won't be stuck. PayPal could (if they wanted) terminate your account but who really cares. To try to avoid that, at least initiate a dispute first through them and then when that fails, do it directly with your credit card. Regards, Rich
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#9. Re: Torn Leather on the upper part of the drivers seat. - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:15:18 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Torn Leather on the upper part of the drivers seat. > > From: scott noltensmeier snoltens@yahoo.com > > Torn Leather on the upper part of the drivers seat. > > The leather is worn out on the upper part of my driver's seat. > > Is it possible the unbolt the upper back and replace it with a matching > one from another E36. > My friend has a seat with good/matching leather -- that he'll sell me for > $125. > > What do you think. > - is this a good or bad idea? > - should I just cover it with some sheep skin? This is a good idea, it is easily accomplished, I would recommend it. You will simply swap the leather/foam back/support in one unit. I have disassembled a number of E30 and E36 seats down to the last nut and bolt at times, it is quite straight forward, any issues, contact me directly. Regards, Rich
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Online purchases - from Goss, Patrick - PA
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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:22:34 -0500 From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" <Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Online purchases Forgot about that, I only hope I can verify that the source of funds for that particular trans came from my bank and not previous balance from others paying me.... -----Original Message----- From: Rich Dorffer [mailto:E36M3Digest@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 2:16 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Online purchases Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:12:38 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: [E36M3] Online purchases > > From: "Goss, Patrick - PA" Patrick.Goss@GMACM.COM > > Note on Paypal, they changed the dispute process since I last went > through one about 9 months ago. They no longer handle claims with > respect to quality, just delivery only. > > Example: Just bought a euro m-tec steering wheel advertised like new, > received a heavily worn one, paypal denies claim. > > If the shipment gets lost, or is never sent they will back you. Lost > shipment is normally covered by the carrier, so really all paypal is > doing now is getting involved is claims against the deadbeat seller who > never ships out. > > So if you buy a really expensive 6spd for you M and it grinds after you > installed it, you're stuck! While most of what Patrick states about PayPal is true, you can still fund the payment via Paypal with your credit card and you still retain all the protection that your credit card affords. Therefore, you can always initiate the dispute with your credit card company and they will reverse the charges which will flow through PayPal and at least you won't be stuck. PayPal could (if they wanted) terminate your account but who really cares. To try to avoid that, at least initiate a dispute first through them and then when that fails, do it directly with your credit card. Regards, Rich ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************