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#1. Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( - from Mel Silva
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:47:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Mel Silva <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( Should this overflow tank be replaced as part of the radiator replacement regimen? -----Original Message----- >From: S Stiles <stiles_s@hotmail.com> >Sent: Aug 3, 2006 2:27 PM >To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> >Subject: [E36M3] overflow tank :( > >Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:24:29 -0700 >From: "S Stiles" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> >Subject: overflow tank :( > >I did a coolant system refresh 6mos ago (radiator, thermostat, housing, hoses, etc.) and reused the overflow tank. Guess what, it appears to be leaking :) > >Question is: are there any shortcuts to this job? Can I replace the overflow tank without: >- draining all of the coolant >- removing the radiator >- removing the fan >- etc? > >...and here I thought I'd be able to drive it through the summer without working on it... > >Thanks much, >Scott Stiles. > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:59:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( On Thu, August 3, 2006 11:27 am, S Stiles said: > Guess what, it appears to be > leaking :) Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm glad that someone else has my luck :-) > Question is: are there any shortcuts to this job? Can I replace the > overflow tank without: > - draining all of the coolant > - removing the radiator > - removing the fan > - etc? IIRC (and I may not :-)), the overflow tank is attached to the fan shroud? So you should be able to replace it without removing the radiator & fan. You will loose most of the coolant, though. But, since it's relatively new, if you drain it into a clean catch pan, you can reuse it (Bentley manual says so, so it's OK :-)) My 2 cents, Jim Bassett
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#3. Re: [E36M3] RE: Gas Smell! - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:06:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Gas Smell! On Thu, August 3, 2006 11:47 am, Kelvin said: > It's a '95 alright. I'm going to have to take the airbox out again and > take a look see. And I forget who else suggested it, but might as well look over all the fuel lines, etc. The transitions from hard-line to soft rubber are usually done with hose clamps. Check and make sure they're all tight and in good shape. Basically, you're in "troubleshooting" mode. Check the system from front to back, looking for the culprit. > PS: I think it's time to drive with a fire extinguisher in the car! :-P I've had one in both cars for YEARS :-) Jim Bassett
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#4. RE: Gas Smell! - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:26:14 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Gas Smell! A few comments: - just because the smell is outside the car, it doesn't rule out the top of the gas tank (pump, fittings, seal, etc.) that is "accessible" under the rear seat...as the gas tank is still 'outside of the car'. When it leaks in that area, it can still run down the sides of the gas tank to the ground or wherever outside of the car. Sometimes, if the leak is bad enough, you can smell it inside the car due to the fact that the top of the tank (pump, etc.) is accessible under the rear seat. - it's stupid to fill the gas up to the lip of the fill. - last I checked, the fuel filter isn't part of either the Inspection I or the Inspection II list, so that wouldn't be a very good assumption to assume it was changed. Regards, Rich
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#5. Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:39:11 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( > Question is: are there any shortcuts to this job? Can I replace the overflow tank without: > - draining all of the coolant Yes, you don't need to drain it all, just let the radiator drain into a clean bucket and then re-use it. > - removing the radiator The radiator does not need to come out. > - removing the fan You will need to remove the fan so that the fan shroud can be pulled partially out, the overflow tank is attached to the shroud. It's less than a one hour job including bleeding the cooling system again. -- Jamie Howton 2006 M Roadster 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL
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#6. RE: [E36M3] RE: Gas Smell! - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:41:55 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Gas Smell! Unfortunately, at least on all the maintenance schedules I've seen, the fuel filter isn't a scheduled item. Paul L Fisher 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU Titanium Silver Metallic 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Kelvin [mailto:mpower@obikwan.com] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:47 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Gas Smell! Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:17:47 -0700 From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Gas Smell! It's a '95 alright. I'm going to have to take the airbox out again and take a look see. As for the fuel filter, I'm not sure. The previous owner did an InspectionII on it a couple months prior to me buying the car. So, i'd ASSuME that it's been replaced rather recently. Thanks for the tips! -kelvin PS: I think it's time to drive with a fire extinguisher in the car! :-P -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/406 - Release Date: 8/2/2006
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#7. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( - from Marco
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:13:49 -0700 From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( you don't need to remove the fan shroud. It is possible to remove the expansion tank and loosing a bit of coolant by 1) clamping off the lower hose that terminates at the bottom of the expansion tank. 2) use something to siphon out the water from the expansion tank 3) The tank is held in place by the bleed screw (stoopid design) and the lower hose. remove bleed screw - don't break the fitting it's in. 4) remove small hose 5) remove lower hose (some water will pour out) 6) remove tank replace is reverse. At least it was that way yesterday when I did it on the race car. Note the lower hose clamp can be a PITA to get to and may require removal of the fan shroud. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Jamie Howton [mailto:jhowton@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:47 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:39:11 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( > Question is: are there any shortcuts to this job? Can I replace the overflow tank without: > - draining all of the coolant Yes, you don't need to drain it all, just let the radiator drain into a clean bucket and then re-use it. > - removing the radiator The radiator does not need to come out. > - removing the fan You will need to remove the fan so that the fan shroud can be pulled partially out, the overflow tank is attached to the shroud. It's less than a one hour job including bleeding the cooling system again. -- Jamie Howton 2006 M Roadster 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#8. 2 suspension noise issues - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:16:05 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: 2 suspension noise issues Hey all, I have 2 suspension noise issues I want to ask about. First one is very simple: after installing the H&R huge front swaybar, I can't keep the nuts holding the swaybar to the link tight enough, and it clunks. The Bentley says to not re-use the nuts, guess they weren't kidding. Where can I get these nuts, besides a dealer? RealOem lists them as M10-10 ZNS. What does the "-10 ZNS" part mean? What's the thread pitch on these? I can find M10 1.5 thread nuts easily enough. http://www.mcmaster.com/itm/find.ASP?tab=find <http://www.mcmaster.com/itm/find.ASP?tab=find&context=psrchDtlLink&fast track=False&searchstring=93795A240> &context=psrchDtlLink&fasttrack=False&searchstring=93795A240 The other issue is not as simple. I bought a used TC Kline double adjustable coilover system from somebody on BimmerForums recently, and it's not making me happy. The rear shocks make a knock or click noise whenever they change direction. They aren't bottoming, this is on normal small motions in everyday driving. The shock mounts are Ground Control, I took them apart and they look OK. The chassis mount points are fine. The rear shocks are yellow, and have Pro-Parts stickers on them, but someone told me that Pro-Parts used to make bits for TC Kline. Is this noise just a sign that the shocks are worn out and need to be rebuilt? The PO claimed they were rebuilt at last year's Solo Nationals (didn't mention who rebuilt them, perhaps that's why the Pro-Parts sticker is there). He also specifically told me the system is silent, but I've found a post of his from earlier this year asking about this very problem, so I'm not happy about that, either. I found a few references to rear shock noise on the TCK D/A shocks, but no resolution. I haven't talked to TCK yet, but I will. Does anyone have this issue, and have you found a solution? Thank you, Paul Andrews # 42 STU Alpine M3/4
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#9. Re: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues - from Zack Steinkamp
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:30:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues --- Paul Andrews <emosound@verizon.net> wrote: > First one is very simple: after installing the H&R huge front > swaybar, I > can't keep the nuts holding the swaybar to the link tight enough, and > it > clunks. Paul, when installing, did you slip a thin 16mm wrench on the other side of the nut/bracket to keep the endlink (bolt) part from spinning? Some Blue Loc-Tite would help too. -zs
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#10. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( - from stiles_s
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:38:09 -0700 From: "stiles_s" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( Thanks all. Bought a tank from the stealer over lunch and will find some time over the weekend to do the job. I guess I'll do the fuel filter at the same time -- in the spirit of spilling stuff on the garage floor. Car is starting really roughly lately -- I'm hoping the fuel filter has something to do w/it. Also feels like leaky injectors. This list is a great resource by the way -- super high signal/noise. Without the commiserating that goes on here I probably would have already dumped the M3 for a GTI or an RS4. Had to drive the backup/family car this morning, which really annoys me :) (Honda Pilot). Thanks again, Scott. For fun, here's the maintenance list for the last 9mos: '97 M3/2, 88k miles. Purchased ~9mos ago. Since then: all fluids, full suspension refurbish including bilsteins, RSMs, RTABs, control arms/bushings; full (almost) cooling system refurbish (radiator, thermostat, hoses; housing); under-tray; front wheel bearings and rotors/pads; "fixed" the PS leak; cdv delete/flush; brake flush; full tie rods; front oxy sensors; x-brace; ZKWs; conforti intake; BBS RGRs; ... holy crap. Known looming issues: Clutch (and the shift-lever-gasket and bushings); steering rack; ps tank and filter, and hoses; ... Ugh. Maybe buying a 10yr old M3 *wasn't* cheaper than keeping my 996. That's a little depressing. -----Original Message----- From: Marco [mailto:m3driver@iname.com] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:17 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:13:49 -0700 From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( you don't need to remove the fan shroud. It is possible to remove the expansion tank and loosing a bit of coolant by 1) clamping off the lower hose that terminates at the bottom of the expansion tank. 2) use something to siphon out the water from the expansion tank 3) The tank is held in place by the bleed screw (stoopid design) and the lower hose. remove bleed screw - don't break the fitting it's in. 4) remove small hose 5) remove lower hose (some water will pour out) 6) remove tank replace is reverse. At least it was that way yesterday when I did it on the race car. Note the lower hose clamp can be a PITA to get to and may require removal of the fan shroud. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Jamie Howton [mailto:jhowton@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:47 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:39:11 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( > Question is: are there any shortcuts to this job? Can I replace the overflow tank without: > - draining all of the coolant Yes, you don't need to drain it all, just let the radiator drain into a clean bucket and then re-use it. > - removing the radiator The radiator does not need to come out. > - removing the fan You will need to remove the fan so that the fan shroud can be pulled partially out, the overflow tank is attached to the shroud. It's less than a one hour job including bleeding the cooling system again. -- Jamie Howton 2006 M Roadster 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************