E36M3 #4900

Thursday, August 03, 2006 19:07:49

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#1. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( - from Jim Bassett
#2. Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :() - from stiles_s
#3. Re: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] - from Jim Bassett
#4. RE: Front brake pad and/or rotor issue - from James Clay
#5. RE: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] - from Paul L Fisher
#6. Re: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] - from Jamie Howton
#7. Re: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] - from Gary
#8. RE: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] - from Marco
#9. RE: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues - from Paul Andrews
#10. RE: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues - from Zack Steinkamp

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#1. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:58:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( On Thu, August 3, 2006 2:47 pm, stiles_s said: > I guess I'll do the fuel filter at the same time -- in the spirit of > spilling stuff on the garage floor. Car is starting really roughly lately > -- > I'm hoping the fuel filter has something to do w/it. Also feels like leaky > injectors. When were the spark plugs last changed? > For fun, here's the maintenance list for the last 9mos: Of course, there's stuff on that list that wasn't *required* :-) > Maybe buying a 10yr old M3 *wasn't* cheaper than keeping my 996. That's a > little depressing. Umm, buying ANY 10-year-old used car will require some expense to "get right", IMO. But find me a 10-year-old car you like driving as much :-) Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - bought new, now w/171K miles, you don't want to see *my* list 1993 325is #44 JP - not doing too badly for a 13-year-old "used" car LOL

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#2. Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :() - from stiles_s
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:24:25 -0700 From: "stiles_s" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :() Don't know if the spark plugs have ever been changed. The shop checked them when they did the PPI and they looked good -- so they only replaced the plug wires. Don't know if the fuel filter has *ever* been changed. The rough starting is very intermittent. It'll start perfectly for a couple weeks, and then run incredibly roughly and richly upon startup; clearing up fine after running for a bit (and going through 1/4tank of gas :) ). Only related stuff I'm messed with: conforti CAI and (re) flashing to Dinan Stg2 (went from full Stg2 (with Dinan intake) to Stg1+stock intake, and back to conforti CAI and stg2) Oh, and Jim: yeah I realize that a 10yr old car is going to be expensive to "get right". I'm just bitching and moaning. I keep thinking I can see the end of the tunnel... Thanks, Scott. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 3:07 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:58:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :( On Thu, August 3, 2006 2:47 pm, stiles_s said: > I guess I'll do the fuel filter at the same time -- in the spirit of > spilling stuff on the garage floor. Car is starting really roughly > lately > -- > I'm hoping the fuel filter has something to do w/it. Also feels like > leaky injectors. When were the spark plugs last changed? > For fun, here's the maintenance list for the last 9mos: Of course, there's stuff on that list that wasn't *required* :-) > Maybe buying a 10yr old M3 *wasn't* cheaper than keeping my 996. > That's a little depressing. Umm, buying ANY 10-year-old used car will require some expense to "get right", IMO. But find me a 10-year-old car you like driving as much :-) Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - bought new, now w/171K miles, you don't want to see *my* list 1993 325is #44 JP - not doing too badly for a 13-year-old "used" car LOL ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#3. Re: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:48:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :() On Thu, August 3, 2006 3:27 pm, stiles_s said: > Don't know if the spark plugs have ever been changed. Change 'em. > so they only replaced the > plug > wires. Interesting, seeing as the E36 doesn't HAVE "plug wires" :-) > I'm just bitching and moaning. No worries. It seems sometimes, though, that the fact that the E36 M3s are starting to hit the "10 year mark" has snuck up on folks :-) > I keep thinking I can see the > end of the tunnel... Good luck with that, LOL! If you do see it, let the rest of us know :-) Jim Bassett

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#4. RE: Front brake pad and/or rotor issue - from James Clay
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 19:00:18 -0400 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: RE: Front brake pad and/or rotor issue > ever since I had the entire piece of friction material come off of one pad during a race I refuse to use Hawk pads. This was n issue they had for a period when they introduced new compounds. Now all race pads have a NRS cleated pad backing plate to address this. It is hard to bond some materials. James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com http://www.bimmerworldracing.com http://www.powerflexusa.com Race Proven BMW Performance 877.639.9648

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#5. RE: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:03:04 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] My wife's M Roadster had to get a DME flash for the rough idle when cold. It made it better but it still stumbles for 5 minutes or so. Paul L Fisher 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU Titanium Silver Metallic 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 5:57 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:48:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :() On Thu, August 3, 2006 3:27 pm, stiles_s said: > Don't know if the spark plugs have ever been changed. Change 'em. > so they only replaced the > plug > wires. Interesting, seeing as the E36 doesn't HAVE "plug wires" :-) > I'm just bitching and moaning. No worries. It seems sometimes, though, that the fact that the E36 M3s are starting to hit the "10 year mark" has snuck up on folks :-) > I keep thinking I can see the > end of the tunnel... Good luck with that, LOL! If you do see it, let the rest of us know :-) Jim Bassett ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/406 - Release Date: 8/2/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/406 - Release Date: 8/2/2006

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#6. Re: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:03:55 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] > No worries. It seems sometimes, though, that the fact that the E36 M3s are > starting to hit the "10 year mark" has snuck up on folks :-) Not really, mine's been 10 since January of last year. -- Jamie Howton 2006 M Roadster 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL

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#7. Re: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] - from Gary
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:07:03 -0500 From: "Gary" <probikeguy@probikeusa.com> Subject: Re: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] You mean the tunnel ends....DAM!!! I hate it when that happens ;-) Gary M3 turbo jackstand racer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:48:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] overflow tank :() On Thu, August 3, 2006 3:27 pm, stiles_s said: > Don't know if the spark plugs have ever been changed. Change 'em. > so they only replaced the > plug > wires. Interesting, seeing as the E36 doesn't HAVE "plug wires" :-) > I'm just bitching and moaning. No worries. It seems sometimes, though, that the fact that the E36 M3s are starting to hit the "10 year mark" has snuck up on folks :-) > I keep thinking I can see the > end of the tunnel... Good luck with that, LOL! If you do see it, let the rest of us know :-) Jim Bassett ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#8. RE: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] - from Marco
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:06:53 -0700 From: "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> Subject: RE: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] mine is over 12. M -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 3:57 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: Now running roughly at startup (RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] No worries. It seems sometimes, though, that the fact that the E36 M3s are starting to hit the "10 year mark" has snuck up on folks :-)

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#9. RE: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:52:21 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues I don't own a wrench thin enough to go behind the bar, but the link bolt isn't spinning, and I can get the nut pretty tight. I've done that a few times, and it works for a while, usually till the next autocross, when it gets loose. I put Blue Loctite on this last time. I'll try some red, tho. Interestingly, only the passenger side works it's way loose. The driver's side has stayed tight for 2 months now since I installed the bar. Thanks, -Paul -----Original Message----- From: Zack Steinkamp [mailto:thenobot@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 5:37 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:30:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues --- Paul Andrews <emosound@verizon.net> wrote: > First one is very simple: after installing the H&R huge front swaybar, > I can't keep the nuts holding the swaybar to the link tight enough, > and it > clunks. Paul, when installing, did you slip a thin 16mm wrench on the other side of the nut/bracket to keep the endlink (bolt) part from spinning? Some Blue Loc-Tite would help too. -zs ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#10. RE: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues - from Zack Steinkamp
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Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:05:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues You can find thin wrenches for cheap at a bike shop. My money is on a nut that isn't tight enough. With a rattly endlink nut, you run the risk of having the nut pull through the mounting flange, which then is a fix that involves welding up a new flange. -zs --- Paul Andrews <emosound@verizon.net> wrote: > Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:52:21 -0400 > From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues > > I don't own a wrench thin enough to go behind the bar, but the link > bolt > isn't spinning, and I can get the nut pretty tight. I've done that a > few times, and it works for a while, usually till the next autocross, > when it gets loose. I put Blue Loctite on this last time. I'll try > some red, tho. > Interestingly, only the passenger side works it's way loose. The > driver's side has stayed tight for 2 months now since I installed the > bar. > > Thanks, > > -Paul > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Zack Steinkamp [mailto:thenobot@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 5:37 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues > > > Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:30:31 -0700 (PDT) > From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues > > --- Paul Andrews <emosound@verizon.net> wrote: > > First one is very simple: after installing the H&R huge front > swaybar, > > > I can't keep the nuts holding the swaybar to the link tight enough, > > > and it > > clunks. > > Paul, when installing, did you slip a thin 16mm wrench on the other > side > of the nut/bracket to keep the endlink (bolt) part from spinning? > Some Blue Loc-Tite would help too. > > -zs > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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