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#1. Re: [E36M3] RE: Gas Smell! Figured it out! (I hope!) - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:07:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Gas Smell! Figured it out! (I hope!) On Fri, August 4, 2006 9:28 am, Kelvin said: > Think I'll take up smoking while working on this one. Excellent - someone else to give use exciting, hair-raising (-burning? :-)) car-repair stories. > I only need Items #2 and the rubber ring/gasket correct? If you are going to replace the sender, you are correct. > Also, anyone know what that service bulletin refers to? Not sure, but I believe BMW changed/upgraded the senders/pumps due to the resistance material that the float arm rides against pre-maturely wearing out. The bulletin may refer to the fix for that condition (i.e. replace with new, upgraded sender/pump - which you are about to do :-)) > My tank is FULL too. I need to either drive around or siphon some gas > into my wife's car. Or just be really, really careful <g> - I've done this repair with a fairly full tank. Not the best time to do it, but do-able. (Offer still stands, if you want someone to "look over your shoulder" you can drive up over to Pleasant Hill - depending on where you are, that should lower the fuel level a bit.) > PS: worm-drive clamps are the type you "screw" in to tighten correct? Correct. Cheers, Jim Bassett
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#2. Re: [E36M3] RE: Gas Smell! Figured it out! (I hope!) - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:10:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Gas Smell! Figured it out! (I hope!) On Fri, August 4, 2006 11:07 am, LoweSeaton@aol.com said: > Nice knowing you. <vbg> Oh geez, Lowell, don't scare the poor guy :-) We finally got him to order parts and get ready to fix the leak - at least let him get started :-) Jim Bassett - paper bags at the ready, just in case (OK, how many of you remember THAT story? :-))
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#3. RE: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:59:54 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues Chris, all, I talked to ProParts today. The gentleman there said they really shouldn't make noise, and if they are, they are probably due for a rebuild. The previous owner of the shocks claims to have had them rebuilt at the Solo Nationals last year. The Pro-Parts guy says that could very well have been, but Koni-NA does it there, not Pro-Parts. Koni-NA does it for free, and he said they do not dyno the shocks afterwards, so the QC is less than perfect. His feeling was that a quicky rebuild at Nationals might not catch a problem, but since ProParts dynos each shock, they can really make every one right. So, it looks like my shocks are going to go to ProParts sometime, we'll see how long I can stand the noise! Paul Andrews # 42 STU Alpine M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Chris Teague [mailto:cteague@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:17 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:12:00 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 2 suspension noise issues Paul, I've had the yellow Koni single adjustable shocks, the yellow ProParts built Koni double adjustables, and the cad plated TCKline Koni double adjustables. I also have the ground-control rear shock mounts. I do think the rears make some small click noises. It hadn't bothered me that much until I read some posts on that on bimmerforums. Now I hear it more. ;-) ProParts was started as a deal between TriPoint Engineering and TCKline. I think it's all TriPoint now, since nothing on TCKline's web site points to ProParts any more. Just a guess. Anyway, ProParts is an authorized Koni rebuild center. They were the only source of Koni DA's for E36's in the early days, and they were custom built. Later, TCKline had Koni build them to his specs, but those were cad plated, not painted yellow. Since yours have ProParts stickers, they were probably rebuilt by them. They may have even been made by them. There is a serial number on the sticker. I would call up ProParts (818-888-8904) and give them the serial numbers, and ask them what they know about those shocks. They do keep records of them I'm told. I run my car in STU, and the Koni DA's work great, even with some noise from the back. So it's possible it's not a serious issue. I know I've seen others say the same thing. Let me know what you find out. Chris 97 M3/4 STU ----- Original Message ----- > The other issue is not as simple. I bought a used TC Kline double > adjustable coilover system from somebody on BimmerForums recently, and > it's not making me happy. The rear shocks make a knock or click noise > whenever they change direction. They aren't bottoming, this is on > normal small motions in everyday driving. The shock mounts are Ground > Control, I took them apart and they look OK. The chassis mount points > are fine. The rear shocks are yellow, and have Pro-Parts stickers on > them, but someone told me that Pro-Parts used to make bits for TC > Kline. Is this noise just a sign that the shocks are worn out and need > to be rebuilt? The PO claimed they were rebuilt at last year's Solo > Nationals (didn't mention who rebuilt them, perhaps that's why the > Pro-Parts sticker is there). He also specifically told me the system > is silent, but I've found a post of his from earlier this year asking > about this very problem, so I'm not happy about that, either. I found > a few references to rear shock noise on the TCK D/A shocks, but no > resolution. I haven't talked to TCK yet, but I will. Does anyone have > this issue, and have you found a solution? > > Thank you, > > Paul Andrews > # 42 STU Alpine M3/4 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#4. RE: [E36M3] RE: 2 suspension noise issues - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:06:24 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: 2 suspension noise issues I tightened this nut today. I found that my GearWrench 16mm just barely fits behind the bar if I carefully move the boot over. I didn't think it was any narrower than my regular wrenches, but it is. I got a socket and 18" breaker bar on the nut and put some torque on it. If it comes loose after that, I'm going looking for new hardware. I found Nylock nuts at the store, but I wasn't sure if they would hold enough, since the original is all-metal. I'll give them a try! Thanks, -Paul -----Original Message----- From: Neil Maller [mailto:neil.maller@gte.net] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 9:27 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] RE: 2 suspension noise issues Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 09:16:31 -0400 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: RE: 2 suspension noise issues on 8/3/06 8:17 PM, "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> wrote: > I don't own a wrench thin enough to go behind the bar, but the link > bolt isn't spinning, and I can get the nut pretty tight. Then you need to get one. The Sears Craftsman Pro Series (the fully polished wrenches) 16mm will fit. You will *not* be able to snug the link fastener down adequately without. You can use any self-locking nut, not just the BMW version. I get Nylock nuts at my local hardware store. You should also be able to find them at big box home improvement stores such as Home Depot or Lowe's. Neil 96 M3 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#5. Re: 2 suspension noise issues - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:16:55 -0400 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: 2 suspension noise issues on 8/4/06 5:06 PM, Paul Andrews at emosound@verizon.net wrote: > I tightened this nut today. I found that my GearWrench 16mm just barely > fits behind the bar if I carefully move the boot over. I didn't think > it was any narrower than my regular wrenches, but it is. Good! > I got a socket and 18" breaker bar on the nut and put some torque on it. If > it comes loose after that, I'm going looking for new hardware. Don't put too much torque on them though! > I found Nylock nuts at the store, but I wasn't sure if they would hold > enough, since the original is all-metal. I'll give them a try! BMW uses all-metal lock nuts not because they're stronger, but because they're cheap. However they're not good for reuse. Nylocks can be reassembled a number of times before their locking ability begins to go away. Neil 96 M3
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#6. Tire size for my 95 17x7.5s? - from Kelvin
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Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:34:19 -0700 From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> Subject: Tire size for my 95 17x7.5s? All, I have a '95 with the stock 17x7.5 wheels on them. The current tires are 235/40-17. I'm looking for new tires and there doesn't seem like much to choose from in that size. What is another size that I can run on the car to keep everything "normal (odometer readings, etc). Will 225/45/-17 work? Thanks! -kelvin >
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Tire size for my 95 17x7.5s? - from cteague@cox.net
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:53:41 -0400 From: <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Tire size for my 95 17x7.5s? Kelvin, The 225/45-17 will work fine. That's the OE size for the front tires on the 96-99 M3's. My spare is still that size. ;-) Chris 97 M3/4 > All, > I have a '95 with the stock 17x7.5 wheels on them. The current tires > are 235/40-17. I'm looking for new tires and there doesn't seem like > much to choose from in that size. > > What is another size that I can run on the car to keep everything > "normal (odometer readings, etc). > > Will 225/45/-17 work?
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Tire size for my 95 17x7.5s? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 14:55:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Tire size for my 95 17x7.5s? On Fri, August 4, 2006 2:37 pm, Kelvin said: > Will 225/45/-17 work? Yes. That happens to be the stock tire size on the front 17x7.5 wheels on the 96+ M3s (rears are 17x8.5 w/245/40/17, BTW). Jim Bassett
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Tire size for my 95 17x7.5s? - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 17:01:35 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Tire size for my 95 17x7.5s? www.tirerack.com shows 225-45-17 as being an equivalent size. Check with them though, they have 20 different tires in the 'correct' size. http://tinyurl.com/roupj Paul L Fisher 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU Titanium Silver Metallic 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Kelvin [mailto:mpower@obikwan.com] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 4:37 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Tire size for my 95 17x7.5s? Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:34:19 -0700 From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> Subject: Tire size for my 95 17x7.5s? All, I have a '95 with the stock 17x7.5 wheels on them. The current tires are 235/40-17. I'm looking for new tires and there doesn't seem like much to choose from in that size. What is another size that I can run on the car to keep everything "normal (odometer readings, etc). Will 225/45/-17 work? Thanks! -kelvin > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/407 - Release Date: 8/3/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/407 - Release Date: 8/3/2006
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Tire size for my 95 17x7.5s? - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 19:20:48 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Tire size for my 95 17x7.5s? In a message dated 8/4/06 4:48:08 PM Central Daylight Time, mpower@obikwan.com writes: I have a '95 with the stock 17x7.5 wheels on them. The current tires are 235/40-17. I'm looking for new tires and there doesn't seem like much to choose from in that size. This brings up an old personal pet peeve of mine. 235/40-17 is not an appropriate size for a 7.5 inch rim. Yes, I know BMW spec'd it that way but no tire manufacturer recommends it. I have long argued that BMW cheaped out by using too narrow of rims and tires on the E36 M3. But to answer your question, 225/45-17 is the prefect choice. It is a little bit taller so it will protect the "butter soft" stock '95 rims a little bit better and it will actually make the speedometer more accurate. I guarantee you, your BMW speedometer reads fast. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 with 255/40-17 tires on 8.5 inch BMW polished forged rims