E36M3 #4912

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 23:47:16

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#1. RE: To much toe ? Excessive rear tire wear? Any ideas ? - from Burgess, Kim L
#2. RE: 99 M3 Coupe FS - from Rich Dorffer
#3. RE: Gas Smell! Figured it out! (I hope!) part2 - from Rich Dorffer
#4. Re: Gas Smell! - from Shane Kleinpeter
#5. Re: [E36M3] To much toe ? Excessive rear tire wear ? Any ideas ? - from Scott Spangenberg
#6. RE: [E36M3] California legal cam kits? - from Tom, Steven
#7. BBS wheels - from tim ng
#8. Re: [E36M3] BBS wheels - from Rex Tener
#9. Re: [E36M3] California legal cam kits? - from Jim Patterson
#10. Re: [E36M3] California legal cam kits? - from Dave Thomas

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#1. RE: To much toe ? Excessive rear tire wear?  Any ideas ? - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:09:42 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: To much toe ? Excessive rear tire wear? Any ideas ? Yes, too much toe with a little bit extra camber would cause that wear. Low tire pressure can cause wear on outside edge as well. Where/who did the alignment? KLB -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:42:36 -0700 (PDT) From: B Stoll <m3tec@yahoo.com> Subject: To much toe? Excessive rear tire wear? Any ideas? Gruppe, About ~12k miles ago (1 year ago), I put on a new set of Yoko AVS AV1-40i, 235/40-17, 17x8 rims, on all corners. The "treadwear' rating is 160... Alignment was checked at the same time. Pressures are normally 34 psi all around. These are the "old" style tires, with the large block-like tread pattern and little circles molded in each block. They are a soft compund for sure. I rotated the tires, front to rear. The rears are worn ~1/16" more than the fronts. Mostly flat and uniform, with a bit more wear on the inside edge (normal rear camber wear). Visually very noticeble difference. I searched the last 2 years of archives, but found nothing on excessive rear tire wear. Would too much toe-in create this wear? Any ideas? Thanks! Bob 98 M3/4 just turned 40

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#2. RE: 99 M3 Coupe FS - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:32:57 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: RE: 99 M3 Coupe FS > > From: "Burgess, Kim L" kim.l.burgess@boeing.com > > 99 M3 Coupe FS > http://www.bmwpugetsound.com/vbb/showthread.php?p=184853&posted=1#post18 > > A buddy's car sorry to see it go. You will have to let us know if he gets anything close to his asking price. Regards, Rich

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#3. RE: Gas Smell! Figured it out! (I hope!) part2 - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:37:26 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <E36M3Digest@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Gas Smell! Figured it out! (I hope!) part2 > > From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Gas Smell! Figured it out! (I hope!) part2 > > Sorry for "spamming" the list with this, but this should be the last > one, plus hoping someone else learns from my mistake. > > So I replaced the gasket only last week as the sender looked like it was > ok. I used about 4-5gallons of gas, removed the sender swamped gaskets > and filler her back up. I thought I was good to go. Day1, no > problems. Day2, looking a little bit damp and I can kind of smell fuel. > Day3, there's a "pool" there again. =( I have been following along, I don't believe this story is over yet and I am still betting on my original idea. Keep us apprised. Regards, Rich

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#4. Re: Gas Smell! - from Shane Kleinpeter
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:09:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Shane Kleinpeter <sak335@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Gas Smell! Kelvin (and anybody else who needs to siphon gas on an E36) There is much better way to empty the tank on your E36 than siphoning: 1. Pull the fuse box cover. Behind the fuse box cover is another small fuse box, lift the cover off to find 3 relays. The (usually blue) relay is the fuel pump, check your Bently or owner's manual to be sure. Pull the relay. 2. Locate the fuel hose that connects to the rail at the front of the motor. Loosen the hose clamp and pull the hose free. 3. Take your siphon hose and put the fuel hose inside it, push the siphon hose over it as far as you can. I usually find a way to put a larger hose clamp over the two hoses to keep them from slipping away from one another. It helps here if your siphon hose is only slightly larger than the fuel hose. 4. Jumper the relay (look at the picture on the side of the relay to figure out which pins to connect). I don't have a relay in front of me but it's usually 30-85. On the E36 is the pins at 9 and 6 o'clock if I remember correctly. If you don't know how to jumper a relay, what you are doing is taking a piece of wire and connecting the two pins on the relay. I use two metal tabs and alligator clips. 5. Watch the gas flow into the hose that you have hopefully put into a gas can! 6. The pump will stop pumping gas when the tank is empty, keep an eye on this while you are doing it, the pump moves quite a bit of fuel quickly. Shane Kleinpeter http://www.justracing.com/homepage/sak335 '96 M3 '94 325i #76 ITS / #335 JP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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#5. Re: [E36M3] To much toe ? Excessive rear tire wear ?  Any ideas ? - from Scott Spangenberg
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:12:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Spangenberg <cpmustang2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] To much toe ? Excessive rear tire wear ? Any ideas ? I had exactly the same situation. I set about 1/8" (or more) per side toe-in on the rear thinking I could make a streetable autox alignment. I put a new set of Kumho Ecsta ASX tires on, 225/45-17. After only about 3000 miles the rears were HALF the tread depth of the fronts. Totally even wear and slight feathering on the inside edge as you noted. It looked like the tires were professionally shaved :-) I would definitely have a look at your rear toe setting. -Scott Spangenberg --- B Stoll <m3tec@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:42:36 -0700 (PDT) > From: B Stoll <m3tec@yahoo.com> > Subject: To much toe ? Excessive rear tire wear ? > Any ideas ? > > Gruppe, > > About ~12k miles ago (1 year ago), I put on a new > set of Yoko AVS AV1-40i, 235/40-17, 17x8 rims, on > all corners. The "treadwear' rating is 160.. > Alignment was checked at the same time. > Pressures are normally 34 psi all around. > > These are the "old" style tires, with the large > block-like tread pattern and little circles molded > in each block. They are a soft compund for sure. > > I rotated the tires, front to rear. > > The rears are worn ~1/16" more than the fronts. > Mostly flat and uniform, with a bit more wear on the > inside edge (normal rear camber wear). Visually > very noticeble difference. > > I searched the last 2 years of archives, but > found nothing on excessive rear tire wear. > > > Would too much toe-in create this wear ? > > Any ideas ? > > Thanks! > > Bob > > 98 M3/4 > just turned 40 > > > --------------------------------- > Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small > Business. > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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#6. RE: [E36M3] California legal cam kits? - from Tom, Steven
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:19:27 -0700 From: "Tom, Steven" <stom@qualcomm.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] California legal cam kits? I had the Eurosport/Jim Conforti Cam Kit and it passed smog. It wasn't CARB approved but it passed the sniffer. From a visual standpoint, an open air filament won't pass. The other thing you can do is get the Euro air box which fits the larger diameter MF sensor. This should make it pass the visual portion. steve -----Original Message----- From: Mount, Mike [mailto:JMMn@pge.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:27 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] California legal cam kits? Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:21:35 -0700 From: "Mount, Mike" <JMMn@pge.com> Subject: California legal cam kits? Greetings all, been quiet pursuing two wheeled fun versus 4 wheels but the Schrick/Sunbelt cam kits have always intrigued me. 300 ponies sound like fun, maybe not quite as much fun as my '05 Ducati 999S, but 300 hp in a '95 M3 does sound cool. As a semi-amusing story to that comment, some guy thought his Cobra was fast and tried to impress me on my Ducati. I hit the brakes to keep from rear ending him after we left a stoplight and had to shift at about 5,000 rpm to avoid getting too close. Geez, how could anyone think that thing was fast? What a pile of ... Have any Golden State list'ers used the kit and found them to be able to pass CARB smog tests? Thanks, Mike ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#7. BBS wheels - from tim ng
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:30:49 -0400 From: "tim ng" <s14realm3@hotmail.com> Subject: BBS wheels don't you guys remeber the 1994 e36 325is M-techninc white cars!!!!!!! BMW made 40 or so for the US to preview customers of the upcoming M3 body work and wheels. These cars came with 17x57.5 BBS wheels like these. Tim Ng BMWCCA # 36497 95 BUZZNM3 92 325ic M-Technic 91 M3 street car 88 M3/2.5 DM race car 87 325is D.E. car ------------------ project 90 535ia ------------------ Pace shadow 26 ft enclosed trailer my web page: http://groups.msn.com/M3stuff/pictures

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#8. Re: [E36M3] BBS wheels - from Rex Tener
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:41:39 -0700 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] BBS wheels At 02:36 PM 8/15/2006, tim ng wrote: >don't you guys remeber the 1994 e36 325is M-techninc white >cars!!!!!!! BMW made 40 or so for the US to preview customers of the >upcoming M3 body work and wheels. These cars came with 17x57.5 BBS >wheels like these. Actually, they made about 150 of them and they came with a different BBS wheel: <http://members.aol.com/cookg1/> <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-3-Series_W0QQitemZ140013996793QQcmdZViewItem> <http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=568724&referrerid=56200> <http://www.windycitybmw.com/membership/car_gibbons.asp> Rex

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#9. Re: [E36M3] California legal cam kits? - from Jim Patterson
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:20:55 -0700 From: Jim Patterson <jhp@san.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] California legal cam kits? The open air filter may pass the visual. My 95 M3 with the Jim C intake and MAF passed with no problem at a test only shop in San Diego. Jim Tom, Steven wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:19:27 -0700 > From: "Tom, Steven" <stom@qualcomm.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] California legal cam kits? > > I had the Eurosport/Jim Conforti Cam Kit and it passed smog. It wasn't > CARB approved but it passed the sniffer. From a visual standpoint, an > open air filament won't pass. The other thing you can do is get the > Euro air box which fits the larger diameter MF sensor. This should make > it pass the visual portion. > > steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mount, Mike [mailto:JMMn@pge.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:27 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] California legal cam kits? > > Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:21:35 -0700 > From: "Mount, Mike" <JMMn@pge.com> > Subject: California legal cam kits? > > > Greetings all, been quiet pursuing two wheeled fun versus 4 > wheels but the Schrick/Sunbelt cam kits have always intrigued me. 300 > ponies sound like fun, maybe not quite as much fun as my '05 Ducati > 999S, but 300 hp in a '95 M3 does sound cool. > As a semi-amusing story to that comment, some guy thought his > Cobra was fast and tried to impress me on my Ducati. I hit the brakes > to keep from rear ending him after we left a stoplight and had to shift > at about 5,000 rpm to avoid getting too close. Geez, how could anyone > think that thing was fast? What a pile of ... > Have any Golden State list'ers used the kit and found them to be > able to pass CARB smog tests? > Thanks, > Mike > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#10. Re: [E36M3] California legal cam kits? - from Dave Thomas
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:44:36 -0700 From: Dave Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] California legal cam kits? On Tuesday 15 August 2006 9:26 pm, Jim Patterson wrote: > > The open air filter may pass the visual. My 95 M3 with the Jim C intake > and MAF passed with no problem at a test only shop in San Diego. > > Jim You got lucky. Technically they should have failed you, and they could actually get in serious trouble for not calling you on it. All the smog techs I know wont even come close to giving people a break anymore. Just not worth the risk. Make me long for the 'good old days' when I could get anything smogged with just a VIN number and $100 ;-) Dave T.

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