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#1. Re: [E36M3] Last chance to save me from the dark side, WTB M3/4 - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:57:02 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Last chance to save me from the dark side, WTB M3/4 In a message dated 8/21/2006 9:47:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, docwyte@comcast.net writes: I'm gonna buy a Lancer Evolution MR Josh, Has that thin air gone to your brain ;-)) Those things are going to be the bane of my BSP existence! Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe (sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & JT-Designs) Philly Region SCCA 2005 Philly Region BSP Champion
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Last chance to save me from the dark side, WTB M3/4 - from docwyte@comcast.net
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 02:13:16 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Last chance to save me from the dark side, WTB M3/4 Test drove one last Friday. Lemme tell ya, as far as performance, the MR is freaking AMAZING. Day-am. It's lacking on the luxuries, the ride is rather hard and that rear wing is gargantuan, but it freaking FLIES. And stops. And turns. Day-am... -------------- Original message -------------- From: Mdriver13@aol.com > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:57:02 EDT > From: Mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Last chance to save me from the dark side, WTB M3/4 > > In a message dated 8/21/2006 9:47:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, > docwyte@comcast.net writes: > I'm gonna buy a Lancer Evolution MR > Josh, > > Has that thin air gone to your brain ;-)) > > Those things are going to be the bane of my BSP existence! > > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe (sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & JT-Designs) > Philly Region SCCA > 2005 Philly Region BSP Champion > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Last chance to save me from the dark side, WTB M3/4 - from Dave Thomas
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:20:20 -0700 From: Dave Thomas <dave@sasdatalink.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Last chance to save me from the dark side, WTB M3/4 On Monday 21 August 2006 7:16 pm, docwyte@comcast.net wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 02:13:16 +0000 > From: docwyte@comcast.net > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Last chance to save me from the dark side, WTB M3/4 > > Test drove one last Friday. Lemme tell ya, as far as performance, the MR > is freaking AMAZING. Day-am. > > It's lacking on the luxuries, the ride is rather hard and that rear wing is > gargantuan, but it freaking FLIES. And stops. And turns. Day-am... How much are those selling for? Dave
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#4. Wanted: M-Technic Strut Brace - from Ricardo A. Mayer
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:25:12 -0300 From: "Ricardo A. Mayer" <ramayer@terra.com.br> Subject: Wanted: M-Technic Strut Brace Gruppe, If anyone has a new or used 3 Series (E36) M3 '92-'97 Motorsport M-Technic Strut Brace (p/n 51 71 2 268 562) please let me know. Thanks, Ricardo Mayer
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Last chance to save me from the dark side, WTB M3/4 - from Scott
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:19:23 -0700 From: "Scott" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Last chance to save me from the dark side, WTB M3/4 I'd love to know how you'd compare one to an e36 M3. Also, did you consider the STI? I've driven the STI. Quite a monster; not very "fluid" in the way it went about its business. I'm intrigued by the new "stealth" STI. Thanks, Scott. -----Original Message----- From: docwyte@comcast.net [mailto:docwyte@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 7:17 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Last chance to save me from the dark side, WTB M3/4 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 02:13:16 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Last chance to save me from the dark side, WTB M3/4 Test drove one last Friday. Lemme tell ya, as far as performance, the MR is freaking AMAZING. Day-am. It's lacking on the luxuries, the ride is rather hard and that rear wing is gargantuan, but it freaking FLIES. And stops. And turns. Day-am... -------------- Original message -------------- From: Mdriver13@aol.com > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:57:02 EDT > From: Mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Last chance to save me from the dark side, WTB > M3/4 > > In a message dated 8/21/2006 9:47:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, > docwyte@comcast.net writes: > I'm gonna buy a Lancer Evolution MR > Josh, > > Has that thin air gone to your brain ;-)) > > Those things are going to be the bane of my BSP existence! > > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe (sponsored by Wheel Collision Center & JT-Designs) > Philly Region SCCA > 2005 Philly Region BSP Champion > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Last chance to save me from the dark side, WTB M3/4 - from docwyte@comcast.net
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:48:50 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: RE: [E36M3] Last chance to save me from the dark side, WTB M3/4 I have driven an STI. Here's my little review. Take my E36 review with a grain of salt, my old '95 M3 had TC Kline coilovers and an AA supercharger amongst other things... The Evo and the STI are almost equals performance wise. Seriously a fart in the wind seperates them. However, the way they get the work done is dramatically different. The STI has loads more low end power and torque, but doesn't have the top end power that the Evo has. The STI has more wheel travel, so it rides better. The Evo has a busier ride and that's the MR with the bilsteins which apparently rides alot better than the other Evo's. Braking is basically a wash with both cars. The STI has more "luxuries" it comes with cruise control, you can get a Homelink mirror, it has an in dash 6 cd changer and a nice climate control unit. However the seats are pretty crappy and there's blazing blue upholstery all over the interior, along with blue carpets. For '06 they've toned down the previous massive hood scoop. The huge rear wing is still there and it vibrates annoyingly at any speed over 40mph. The gauges are alot easier to read than the Evo's and the center stack of controls is very nice and finished. The Evo has to die for recaro seats trimmed in leather and alcantara. They blow the doors off the STI seats in support, sportiness and comfort. The dash is much more spartan and simple, but the materials used for the dash cover are similar to the STI. No cruise control, no Homelink, no 6 disc changer standard. Climate control is manual, not automatic. The back seat has 3+ inches more leg room than the STI, an important thing when you're trying to stuff a baby seat back there. Steering response on the Evo is razor sharp. I mean, you feel like if you sneeze on the highway, you'll be two lanes over. It's like a go kart, super fast, very accurate. STI's steering feels more "normal" like the M3's. In comparison the M3, even my old hyper-modified one, I think it'd have a hard time keeping up with either car performance wise. However, it's ALOT more solidly built, easy to work on and way more luxurious. Steering in slower, handling isn't as sharp and not as accurate. Power is quite a bit less, even with the blower. I think you'd need a twin screw or turbo to keep up, and that'd be from a roll, as from a dead stop both the STI and Evo would annihilate the M3 due to being able to do an all wheel drive launch. I'm attracted to the Evo more than the STI due to the seats and the power delivery. I don't like it's ride or super hyper steering response. It seems like the better built car, the rear wing doesn't vibrate all over the place and it has a better warranty. Course that only comes into play if Mitsu sticks around in the US long enough for it to be used. The back seat is markedly larger, which is important when you're trying to fit a backwards facing baby seat. The STI is a brute, the Evo floats like a butterfly and stings like a pissed off wasp, the M3 in this trio is the GT car, very good performance, excellent luxury, but isn't quite in the same neighborhood performance wise. That said, if I can find a nice, low mileage M3/4, I'd probably buy it. I like the M3's and am willing to give up some ultimate performance to have the solidity and luxury of the M3. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Scott" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:19:23 -0700 > From: "Scott" > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Last chance to save me from the dark side, WTB M3/4 > > I'd love to know how you'd compare one to an e36 M3. Also, did you consider > the STI? I've driven the STI. Quite a monster; not very "fluid" in the way > it went about its business. I'm intrigued by the new "stealth" STI. > > Thanks, > Scott. >
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#7. BMW discount parts dealers? - Power Steering hoses - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:41:25 -0400 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: BMW discount parts dealers? - Power Steering hoses Mark, Hello.. Do you mean the hose that runs to the power steering cooler? If so, just cut off the pressure fitting from the metal line, and buy some 300 psi hose from a local parts store. Use german hose clamps, and you will be fine. Good luck Mo -------------------- 6 -------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:40:47 -0700 From: "Dames, Mark A." <mdames@pdo.sccgov.org> Subject: BMW discount parts dealers? Where are folks from the West Coast getting their dealer parts from now? I previously used Nick Alexander BMW in L.A. but they've discontinued their BMWCCA discount. I have a power steering leak and suspect I need those million dollar hoses replaced -- again. TIA Mark.
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#8. Re: [E36M3] BMW discount parts dealers? - from Peter Loron
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:43:01 -0700 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] BMW discount parts dealers? A number of folks on Bimmerforums have had success in making their own hoses and simply using good hose clamps on the ends instead of the original fittings. I don't have a link handy, but if you search there you'll find the threads. -Pete On 8/21/06, Dames, Mark A. <mdames@pdo.sccgov.org> wrote: > > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:40:47 -0700 > From: "Dames, Mark A." <mdames@pdo.sccgov.org> > Subject: BMW discount parts dealers? > > Where are folks from the West Coast getting their dealer parts from now? I > previously used Nick Alexander BMW in L.A. but they've discontinued their > BMWCCA discount. I have a power steering leak and suspect I need those > million dollar hoses replaced -- again. > > TIA > > Mark. > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#9. RE: startup squeak - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:35:26 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: startup squeak Peter - Disconnecting the Secondary Air Pump will cause an error code and a CE light. BimmerForums about 2 years ago was full of reports of CE lights after replacing stock head pipes with non-OBDII headers. These headers had no provision for the SAP plumbing. My wife's 328 does the same thing. I have replaced it with a less dirty one - there is a non-replaceable filter in the air pump. I have seen reports that the valve needs to be replaced also. The purpose of the SAP is to add O2 aiding the 'cat' in 'disposing' of CO, during the rich-mixture start-up phase. KLBurgess -------------------- 5 -------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:16:06 -0700 From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: startup squeak Can the secondary blower (the one the runs at startup for a few minutes for smog) be disconnected without making the computer freak and throw codes? Mine howls like a banshee and since it's not actually reducing the total pollution any... - Pete
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#10. RE: [E36M3] RE: startup squeak - from Alexander Fadeev
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:02:18 -0400 From: "Alexander Fadeev" <afadeev@smu.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: startup squeak What Kim said. I had my Secondary Air Pump (SAP) replaced barely out of warranty. The rumored failure mode is that the valve on the exhaust manifold that runs the pump fails and sticks open. This feeds the pressure and moisture to the pump that ends up corroding and prematurely wearing out its bearings => thus the howling noise you hear. As a precaution, I had replaced the exhaust valve with the new SAP. Unplugging/removing the SAP will trigger the CE light, but will _not_ adversely effect the engine or the drivability. It is a 100% emissions fooling devise (feed extra air to the cats when the engine is cold). There is no harm in delaying the repair unless a). The noise bothers you; b). You need to pass inspection. Tip: the 3 rubber legs holding the pump to the engine bay are super fragile and silly expensive (> $20 each). Be extra careful removing the old pump first. Prevent any torque application through the rubber legs when you unscrew them or they will brake. Try to remove the old pump first. See how many legs you can salvage. Then order a new pump with the necessary # of replacement legs. HTH, alex f -----Original Message----- > From: Burgess, Kim L [mailto:kim.l.burgess@boeing.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 12:36 PM > Subject: RE: startup squeak > > Peter - Disconnecting the Secondary Air Pump will cause an error > code and a CE light. > BimmerForums about 2 years ago was full of reports of CE lights > after replacing stock head pipes with non-OBDII headers. These > headers had no provision for the SAP plumbing. > My wife's 328 does the same thing. I have replaced it with a less > dirty one - there is a non-replaceable filter in the air pump. > I have seen reports that the valve needs to be replaced also. The > purpose of the SAP is to add O2 aiding the 'cat' in 'disposing' > of CO, during the rich-mixture start-up phase. > KLBurgess > -------------------- 5 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:16:06 -0700 > From: "Peter Loron" <peterloron@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: startup squeak > > Can the secondary blower (the one the runs at startup for a few > minutes for smog) be disconnected without making the computer > freak and throw codes? Mine howls like a banshee and since it's > not actually reducing the total pollution any... - Pete