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#1. Re: [E36M3] Stripped Spark Plug Thread - from Jason Knight
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:28:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stripped Spark Plug Thread Just FYI, I know for a fact that jb weld is not strong enough to keep a spark plug in the head. No BMWs or animals were harmed in this testing. ;-) Jason --- Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:06:34 -0700 (PDT) > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stripped Spark Plug Thread > > I'd pull the head, if I were you, and make a promise > to yourself that that is > all you will be doing! =P Well, a new head gasket, > of course... Are you sure > the vacuuming will get out everything that falls? > If it doesn't, what happens > to the aluminum shavings? > > Chester > > --- Stan Shaw <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> wrote: > > Yesterday my '96 M3 started to miss. I found that > one of the spark plugs > > was out and a coil pack was damaged. Since I have > seen plugs back out, and > > the threads remain undamaged, I hoped for the best > and ordered replacement > > parts. > > > > Today I find the threads must be stripped as the > plug will not thread in. > > So my first thought is to try and run a tap into > the hole while hoping > > nothing (or very little) falls into the combustion > chamber. Then I will use > > vacuum to pull any debris (hopefully). Since the > motor has 160k+ miles on > > it, the chance is worth it. Pulling the head to > fix it properly will lead > > me down the black hole of "while I am in there" > tasks. > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Question about wheel studs - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:50:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Question about wheel studs On Tue, August 29, 2006 7:35 am, Neil Maller said: > I wouldn't use WD-40 or any other liquid on the studs since dirt will > stick > to it. (Besides, WD-40 isn't much of a lubricant.) Agreed. If your goal is to lubricate something, use a proper lubricant, not WD-40. > most people's tightening torque seems to be in the 72-80 ft-lb area > dissenting opinions on that? Not here - I use a max of 80 lb-ft on the race car. No problems. Jim Bassett
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#3. Re: Stripped Spark Plug Thread - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:56:12 -0400 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Stripped Spark Plug Thread on 8/29/06 2:25 PM, "Stan Shaw" <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> wrote: > Today I find the threads must be stripped as the plug will not thread in. > So my first thought is to try and run a tap into the hole while hoping > nothing (or very little) falls into the combustion chamber. No, think this through: a tap cuts away metal to make threads. This was already done once at the factory, and now your hard steel spark plug has stripped the soft aluminum thread in the head. Running a tap down there will cut away yet more metal and at best give you a very temporary illusion that the plug is secure. on 8/29/06 2:25 PM, "Marco" <m3driver@iname.com> wrote: > http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/hel5334-14.html > I've never used one. I just know they exist. Marco calls it right: you need to install a thread insert, which can actually end up being stronger than the original thread due to its steel thread and larger diameter engagement in the head. I don't know that I'd remove the head unless maybe it's the #6 cylinder which might be pretty hard to work on. Grease on the insert tap will retain most of the chips, and frankly small aluminum chips are soft enough to be digested without harm most of the time. The question is whether that insert tool is long enough to reach all the way down to the plug hole when working from above. Do you suppose it'll accept a standard extension? Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD
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#4. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Harbor Freight Racing Jack - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:59:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Harbor Freight Racing Jack On Mon, August 28, 2006 9:35 pm, Marco said: > Dave, > > I'm not racing the jack. I'm also not lifting my car 3' or more into the > bed of my truck when I go to the track. > > I nice 30+lb "racing" jack for jacking the car at the track and using some > decent jackstands is way easier on my back than deadlifting the 90+lb > floor > jack I use at home. Having just spent half a day at home, in bed, on muscle relaxers for my back, I'll second (or is it third?) this. I have 2 jacks - a HF one for use ONLY at the track, and a 90+lb AC jack for home use. Seeing as the AC jack weighs 2/3-rds as much as I do <g>, there's no way in heck I'm even going to attempt to load it into the race car. Jim Bassett
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#5. Re: Victory Product Design Valve Spring Compressor - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:15:47 -0400 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Victory Product Design Valve Spring Compressor on 8/27/06 5:05 PM, Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> wrote: > Unless you use something else to assist you, the tool itself will not allow > you to do what you want to do. You could probably rig something to inject > compressed air into the spark plug hole to keep the valve from falling in. > You'd also need to rotate the engine to get all of the valves shut. A friend bought the VPD tool and has used it successfully on two engines with the heads in place. I don't know all the details, but after turning the engine to TDC on that cylinder, you can then use a compression leakdown test adapter to pressurize the cylinder and keep the valves closed. In any case, as I understand it the piston-to-valve clearance is small enough that even if you lose air pressure the valve doesn't drop far and can be pulled up again from above. Anyone confirm that? Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD
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#6. [E36M3] Wasn't someone looking for a low mileage M3/4 - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:18:19 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: [E36M3] Wasn't someone looking for a low mileage M3/4 Check this one out. 12K miles!!! http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=590537 Dave DeBuhr 98 M3/4
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#7. RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Harbor Freight Racing Jack - from twisty M3
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:36:41 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Harbor Freight Racing Jack Oh is THAT the excuse for using the muscle relaxers? :P I picked up a second jack too. The main one is a 80-90lb Sears deal that's way too heavy to toss around. I picked up a "Scorpion" race jack from Kragen for cheap not terribly long ago... I could SEE the frame twist while lifting and it immediately started to leak and slowly bring the car down, so I quickly stopped using that one. I ended up getting another Sears jack, but the big racing jack they have. It's the more expensive of the two they offer, and it's about 40lbs, I think, so not super-light, but certainly light enough to bring along and I feel very comfortable using it along with a jack stand. Plus, it's got a cool magnetic tray for lug nuts. =) Jonathan L. << Having just spent half a day at home, in bed, on muscle relaxers for my back, I'll second (or is it third?) this. I have 2 jacks - a HF one for use ONLY at the track, and a 90+lb AC jack for home use. Seeing as the AC jack weighs 2/3-rds as much as I do <g>, there's no way in heck I'm even going to attempt to load it into the race car. >>
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#8. Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Harbor Freight Racing Jack - from Jay Hudson
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:06:28 -0700 From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Harbor Freight Racing Jack Just a lame excuse to get some time off and legal drugs ;-) Jay > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:59:45 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> > Subject: RE: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Harbor Freight Racing Jack > > Having just spent half a day at home, in bed, on muscle relaxers for my > back, I'll second (or is it third?) this. > > Jim Bassett >
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#9. Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Harbor Freight Racing Jack - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:27:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [e36m3] Re: [E36M3] Harbor Freight Racing Jack On Tue, August 29, 2006 2:15 pm, Jay Hudson said: > Just a lame excuse to get some time off and legal drugs ;-) What's your point? :-) Jim Bassett - feeling better today, thanks :-)
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Harbor Freight Racing Jack - from Paul Andrews
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Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:52:15 -0400 From: "Paul Andrews" <emosound@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Harbor Freight Racing Jack I have the Craftsman all-aluminum 4000 lb jack. It's not a POS, no stability problems, and it weighs 44 lbs. http://tinyurl.com/ftaky Paul Andrews # 42 STU Alpine M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Mark Dadgar [mailto:mark@pdc-racing.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 2:16 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Harbor Freight Racing Jack Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:06:51 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Harbor Freight Racing Jack On Aug 28, 2006, at 9:25 PM, Dave Thomas wrote: > I am a little late to this thread as I have been on vacation...but > I gotta > say...save weight on your car...not on your jack! I mean, really, > WTF is up > with worrying about a few pounds on your jack? You race the > car..not the > device you use to hold it up while you change wheels... The Lincoln jack that I use at home weighs 92 lbs. You really think I'm gonna take that to the track? - Mark ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************