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#1. RE: Follow-Up HVAC fan STILL not working - from K.C. Boyce
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 09:38:38 -0400 From: "K.C. Boyce" <k_boyce@e30eta.com> Subject: RE: Follow-Up HVAC fan STILL not working Aaand...that was it. Opened up the squirrel cage housing and found the fan was stuck (on what, I have no clue). I was able to free it up by rotating it in the opposite direction from normal rotation. Now I have air again! Thanks again to all of you who responded to my queries...next time I'll work on the Occam's Razor principle... KC Boyce '97 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: K.C. Boyce [mailto:k_boyce@e30eta.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 2:56 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] RE: Follow-Up HVAC fan STILL not working Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 14:47:09 -0400 From: "K.C. Boyce" <k_boyce@e30eta.com> Subject: RE: Follow-Up HVAC fan STILL not working Don, Yep...had the same thought right after I pressed "Send". I'll pull things apart this evening when I get home and report back to the list... KC Boyce '97 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Don Eilenberger [mailto:deilenberger@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 2:19 PM To: E36M3 Cc: K.C. Boyce Subject: RE: Follow-Up HVAC fan STILL not working At 12:55 PM 9/6/2006, K.C. wrote: >Gruppe, > >I got an overwhelming response that, as I thought, my issue was probably >with the final stage unit not working. > >I got the part (yes, overpriced at $100 w/ discount) at the dealer this >morning, installed it, and...still no fan. I played around a bit with my >DVM, but couldn't really assess anything since I don't have a pinout or idea >of what voltages or resistances should be. The resistance varied quite a >bit between the old and the new units...hopefully that is telling me that >the old one was gone anyway (but, again, who knows unless anyone can send me >specs!). > >Any clues on where to check next? snip >Anyway, insight and troubleshooting thoughts are much appreciated. I'm >really starting to hate my M3's HVAC system (been chasing a clicking sound >like playing cards in bicycle spokes for a while too - something's >interfering with the squirrel cage). > >KC Boyce /Out of lurkdom for a moment/ Ummm... given that it sounds as if something was falling into the squirrel cage on your fan - and now the fan isn't running - if it was me - I'd be seeing if what was falling into it making the noise has now fallen into it enough to stop it rotating. Call me goofy (won't be the first time).. but sometimes the clues are yelling "check here first".. /back to lurkdom/ Don Eilenberger, AKA SquidBOOF, Spring Lk Hts, NJ deilenberger@verizon.net NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.njsbmwr.org/ Moderator - BMW E39 Enthusiasts: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe39 "One should do the stuff that makes you smile" - Ulf Bertilsson Hence BMWs: 2002 M3 convertible, 2003 5-touring, 1987 K75S, 2004 R1150RS ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#2. Re: Vanos Mechanically Jammed - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:41:52 -0400 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Vanos Mechanically Jammed on 9/7/06 7:05 AM, Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> wrote: > I've seen this error code when Wayne first had his cams installed. He had to > go back and get it taken out and reinstalled and checked for the error code. > Have you pressurized the VANOS and energized the solenoid as a way of testing > it when everything is apart? You have to test for proper range of movement, > etc. I bet if you do that and it all works out, you won't get the code. Jon, I'm with Chester on the explanation. Take the covers off and test for proper VANOS excursion using an air pressure fitting on the VANOS oil pressure port. The procedure is in the TIS someplace. From my (notoriously unreliable) memory the correct value is 11mm, and my bet is that you're off by a notch. The camshaft position sensor will then read that as a jam. This happened to my car when the cams were first installed; the tech had to retime the VANOS. Later when I had the head off myself (head gasket) I obsessively put timing marks on everything to aid in reassembly. Yeah, I know you've done a whole bunch of them before, but then so had my very competent mechanic. It happens... Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD
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#3. RE: Vanos Mechanically Jammed - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 07:06:05 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Vanos Mechanically Jammed "Keep in mind that if you follow the TIS exactly, your timing will most likely end up retarded..." I have not looked at the TIS but there is a mistake in the Bentley. And they offer a corrected page http://www.bentleypublishers.com/images//features/b398/b398_117.pdf KLB
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Thunderhill 9/15 - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:44:59 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Thunderhill 9/15 I was just down there for a 3 day event. Tire wear at that track is much lower than I'm used to on the abraisive tracks here in the PNW (weather must have something to do with it). Keep an eye on the tires, they should be fine for one day. On 9/6/06, Jay Hudson <jwhud@budget.net> wrote: > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 23:19:14 -0700 > From: "Jay Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Thunderhill 9/15 > > Around 40psi, hot is a good starting point. I used to run a little less in > the rears. Depends. > > Current tires should be OK for a day. Keep an eye on the edges for cording. > > I always run an extrat quart. Some will do a half quart. > > Good luck, be safe and have fun. > > Jay > > > > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:22:59 > > From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> > > Subject: Thunderhill 9/15 > > > > All, > > I will be going up to Thunderhill on 9/15 for a HPDE. > > > > A couple of questions as I have not run this car on the track before. > > > > What is the recommended "tire pressure" to start off with? These will be > > 235/40-17 on the 17x7.5" rims on Pilot Sports I. What should I start off > > at and play around with? > > > > Also, on the tech sheet, it says that the tires cannot be at or below the > > wearbars. Well, I'm probably 1/16 of an inch from the wear bar. Do you > > think that will be ok? If not, and I got new tires, how many miles do I > > need to put on them before I can track it and not chunk them up? > > > > I recall in the past that people said that it was "recommended" to > > overfill the oil by 1-quart. Is this still acceptable or recommended? I > > don't want the crank foaming the oil up! > > > > Anyone else attending? > > > > Thanks! > > -kelvin > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 - from Kelvin
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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:46:17 -0700 From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 All, Here are some pictures I took of my front tires. You can see that they are right at the wear bars for the center of the tire, but not for the sides yet. Upon closer inspection by me, I noticed that the tires are "cracking". =| Any comments? http://www.obikwan.com/tires/pass1.JPG http://www.obikwan.com/tires/pass2.JPG http://www.obikwan.com/tires/pass3.JPG http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver1.JPG http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver2.JPG http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver3.JPG http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver4.JPG http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver5.JPG If I were to get a new set of tires, how long do I need to drive on them before I can track them without destroying them? Thanks!
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 - from Jason Knight
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:54:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 Buckets of tread! In F1 those would be rain tires. Jason --- Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:46:17 -0700 > From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front > tires...Thunderhill 9/15 > > All, > Here are some pictures I took of my front tires. > You can see that they > are right at the wear bars for the center of the > tire, but not for the > sides yet. Upon closer inspection by me, I noticed > that the tires are > "cracking". =| Any comments? > > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/pass1.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/pass2.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/pass3.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver1.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver2.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver3.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver4.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver5.JPG > > If I were to get a new set of tires, how long do I > need to drive on them > before I can track them without destroying them? > > Thanks!
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:20:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 ya - those are way fine.... Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> wrote: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 13:54:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Knight Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 Buckets of tread! In F1 those would be rain tires. Jason --- Kelvin wrote: > Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:46:17 -0700 > From: Kelvin > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front > tires...Thunderhill 9/15 > > All, > Here are some pictures I took of my front tires. > You can see that they > are right at the wear bars for the center of the > tire, but not for the > sides yet. Upon closer inspection by me, I noticed > that the tires are > "cracking". =| Any comments? > > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/pass1.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/pass2.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/pass3.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver1.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver2.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver3.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver4.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver5.JPG > > If I were to get a new set of tires, how long do I > need to drive on them > before I can track them without destroying them? > > Thanks! ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 - from Gus Iverson
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:21:37 -0700 From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 Your tires have been overinflated, generally. Something to keep in mind. If you're wearing out the center faster than the sides, they're overinflated. Looks like it isn't terribly extreme. Do you monitor your pressures at all? Gus On 9/7/06, Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:46:17 -0700 > From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 > > All, > Here are some pictures I took of my front tires. You can see that they > are right at the wear bars for the center of the tire, but not for the > sides yet. Upon closer inspection by me, I noticed that the tires are > "cracking". =| Any comments? > > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/pass1.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/pass2.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/pass3.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver1.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver2.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver3.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver4.JPG > http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver5.JPG > > If I were to get a new set of tires, how long do I need to drive on them > before I can track them without destroying them? > > Thanks! > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 - from Kelvin
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Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:29:53 -0700 From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 I do monitor my tire pressures. I suspect it was due to the previous owner. Which brings me to my next question. What is everyone running in terms of tire pressures on 235/40-17s? I wasn't worried about the wear. I was more worried about the "cracking" on the tires. Thanks! Gus Iverson wrote: > Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:21:37 -0700 > From: "Gus Iverson" <gus.iverson@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 > > Your tires have been overinflated, generally. Something to keep in > mind. If you're wearing out the center faster than the sides, they're > overinflated. Looks like it isn't terribly extreme. Do you monitor > your pressures at all? > > Gus > > On 9/7/06, Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> wrote: >> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:46:17 -0700 >> From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> >> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 >> >> All, >> Here are some pictures I took of my front tires. You can see that they >> are right at the wear bars for the center of the tire, but not for the >> sides yet. Upon closer inspection by me, I noticed that the tires are >> "cracking". =| Any comments? >> >> http://www.obikwan.com/tires/pass1.JPG >> http://www.obikwan.com/tires/pass2.JPG >> http://www.obikwan.com/tires/pass3.JPG >> http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver1.JPG >> http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver2.JPG >> http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver3.JPG >> http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver4.JPG >> http://www.obikwan.com/tires/driver5.JPG >> >> If I were to get a new set of tires, how long do I need to drive on them >> before I can track them without destroying them? >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >>
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:42:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 On Thu, September 7, 2006 2:31 pm, Kelvin said: > What is everyone running > in terms of tire pressures on 235/40-17s? Well, same tires (Pilot Sports) but 245/40/17, I'm running 36F/34R. Works for my daily-drive. > I wasn't worried about the wear. I was more worried about the > "cracking" on the tires. Yeah - how OLD are those tires? 'Cause that's what the looks like to me age/sun exposure. As for new tires, probably 100-200 miles would be enough to "break-in" the tires, but unless you wear 'em down to a level similar to the one's in the pix, they WILL chunk at the track most likely. Mostly outside edges, but it will eventually even out or go away after some "regular" driving. Although, if you're toward the "novice" end of the student spectrum, it may not be all that bad. Work on being smooth (steering, braking, and throttle application) and you can certainly lessen any chunking issues. At least, that's what I recall. It's been while since I've used street tires at the track. Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP
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#11. Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 - from Raza Uddin
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Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 14:51:06 -0700 From: "Raza Uddin" <raza.uddin@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pictures of my front tires...Thunderhill 9/15 On 9/7/06, Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> wrote: > > I wasn't worried about the wear. I was more worried about the > "cracking" on the tires. That's not cracking- that's just some feathering/graining from rolling over close to the sidewall. It is bound to happen when the tires are being pushed (and there is limited negative camber). Like everyone else said, the tires look great and you have nothing to worry about. Drive Safely, Raza