E36M3 #4949

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 15:17:33

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Angel Eyes and Euro Headlights - from Kelvin
#2. speaking of oil - from mdriver13@aol.com
#3. Re: [E36M3] Euro Headlights - from Jim Bassett
#4. RE: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. - from Paul L Fisher
#5. RE: [E36M3] Euro Headlights - from Scott
#6. RE: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. - from Scott
#7. Re: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. - from Kelvin
#8. RE: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. - from Paul L Fisher
#9. Re: Euro Headlights - from Adam Lazur
#10. Re: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. - from Kelvin

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Angel Eyes and Euro Headlights - from Kelvin
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:13:41 -0700 From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Angel Eyes and Euro Headlights Bill, On mine, you can access it from the back, via the high beam access panel. You open up that door and you can pull the city light out. On the back of your headlight there should be 2 "doors." One to access the low beam bulb and one to access the high beam bulb. The city light is on the high beam side. Let me know if that doesn't work for you, because i'll "try" to take some pictures for you then. -kelvin M3 wrote: > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:59:55 -0500 > From: M3 <m3@cueframe.us> > Subject: Angel Eyes and Euro Headlights > > Kelvin, > > How do you get to that city light socket to put a bulb in? > > Does the front glass lens unclip? > > Bill > Ft. Worth > > >

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#2. speaking of oil - from mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:23:49 -0400 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: speaking of oil Wow, saw a TV commercial this morning for a special grade of, I think it was, Quaker State motor oil advertising to increase torque -- "it's heat activated" they say! Geez I wonder is it low-end torque or high-end torque they're giving me? ;-)) I think the Company might need to change their name to Quacker State! cheers, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2005 Philly Region BSP Champion Sponsored by WCC, JT-Designs, & Rogue Engineering ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Euro Headlights - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:58:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Euro Headlights On Wed, September 13, 2006 6:27 am, Russ Doucet said: > Thanks in advance, sorry for the nooby questions... I have some basic info on my web site (one of the few pages that's actually *there* :-)): http://www.jimbassett.com/bmw.htm Click on "European Ellipsoid Headlights" on the left. If there's not enough info there, feel free to email me. > So... I just opened the box for my new (used) Euro headlights, with no > instructions, and no bulbs. <mini-rant> Mind telling us which lame-a$$ vendor you bought these from? There are several vendors that supply these, complete with bulbs, instructions and connectors. This obviously isn't one of them, and should be avoided, IMNSHO. But then, I'd rather spend $50-$100 more and have everything I need, all at once, than be wasting my time sourcing all the little bits and pieces that should been there in the first place. As always, YMMV. </mini-rant> Jim Bassett

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:00:26 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. I personally wouldn't run any xW-30 oil ever in any BMW. Is the 0W-30 synthetic at least? If not, drain it and put some synthetic in. Paul L Fisher 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU Titanium Silver Metallic 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Kelvin [mailto:mpower@obikwan.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:37 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:37:09 -0700 From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> Subject: Yes, oil question again...track use.. Ok folks, I got another oil question. I know that this might ignite a war and all, but.... I'm going to be running thunderhill this coming friday. Is it ok for me to run 0w-30 German Castrol in my car? That is what is currently in my car. (changed about 1k miles ago). Previous owner ran 20w-50 and it burned oil like a mofo! Burning seems to be A LOT better now. (would suck to drain this oil and have to put another weight in) If this is too thin, can I just drop another quart of "xx-weight" into the motor to try to balance/mix it out? I'm right at the top of the dipstick right now, and I know for the track I'll have to run ..5-1.0quarts over anyhow. Thanks! -kelvin -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006

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#5. RE: [E36M3] Euro Headlights - from Scott
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:05:48 -0700 From: "Scott" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Euro Headlights I installed ZKWs in mine (kit from Turner, IIRC) a few months ago. While I agree that the initial install was fairly easy, there were three issues that took me a bunch of follow-up time: 1) the push-on connectors for the wiring harness come loose pretty easily. It's tough to tell if they are seated. If I had the time to pull the lights out, I'd solder the connections. 2) I've probably adjusted the physical position of my headlamps 3 times per side, and I think I'm finally done now. Why? The bloody dog-whistle sound which is supposedly caused by lamps that are mounted too low. Both of mine are perfect in terms of measurement as per the Bentley, but I still get a bit of whistle. I'm convinced it's coming from the turn signals, but it's quiet enough now to not worry about it. 3) Lamp alignment has taken me a while to get just right. Lots of "half a turn up, half a turn left" trial and error. End result is drastically improved lighting over stock, and as an added bonus I think they look great too (city lights are a nice novelty). Scott. -----Original Message----- From: Kelvin [mailto:mpower@obikwan.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:37 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Euro Headlights Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:32:51 -0700 From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Euro Headlights Speak of the devil, I literally just installed mine yesterday! I ended up getting the Gen4 Depos. These are basically replicas for the ZKWs. The quality seems to be very very good. The depos were about ~$150 or so cheaper than the ZKWs. Keep in mind Hella and Bosch also made OE lights for the E36s as well. The most plentiful OE lights are the ZKWs. I ended up getting HIDs for my Euro lights as well. :-P The Euro lights use H1 for bulbs (though there are some "older" lights out there that use H7s supposedly). There is also a wedge bulb in there that is for the city light system. (I don't think it's bright enough for a DRL, it's 7watts I believe). Pretty straight forward swap. If you're handy with tools, it should only take you 45mins or so. If you're not, you could still knock it out in a couple of hours. My install took a tad longer because I had to find a place to mount the HID ballests. Let me know if you have anymore specific questions, and I'll try to answer them. -kelvin, who is finally able to give back to the community. =P ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#6. RE: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. - from Scott
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:12:25 -0700 From: "Scott" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. A useful litmus test I use for oil is whether or not it's ACEA A3 rated. If not, IMHO, it doesn't belong in our engines. There are many synthetics that aren't. I have Mercedes bulletin somewhere that lists supported and unsupported oils. They have a similar basic oil requirement to our cars, and there are a few synthetics that they specifically recommend avoiding. I'll dig it up and send it. Scott. -----Original Message----- From: Paul L Fisher [mailto:bmw@paul-fisher.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:07 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:00:26 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. I personally wouldn't run any xW-30 oil ever in any BMW. Is the 0W-30 synthetic at least? If not, drain it and put some synthetic in. Paul L Fisher 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU Titanium Silver Metallic 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Kelvin [mailto:mpower@obikwan.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:37 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:37:09 -0700 From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> Subject: Yes, oil question again...track use.. Ok folks, I got another oil question. I know that this might ignite a war and all, but.... I'm going to be running thunderhill this coming friday. Is it ok for me to run 0w-30 German Castrol in my car? That is what is currently in my car. (changed about 1k miles ago). Previous owner ran 20w-50 and it burned oil like a mofo! Burning seems to be A LOT better now. (would suck to drain this oil and have to put another weight in) If this is too thin, can I just drop another quart of "xx-weight" into the motor to try to balance/mix it out? I'm right at the top of the dipstick right now, and I know for the track I'll have to run 5-1.0quarts over anyhow. Thanks! -kelvin -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. - from Kelvin
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:24:36 -0700 From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. Yes it is synthetic. Paul L Fisher wrote: > I personally wouldn't run any xW-30 oil ever in any BMW. > > Is the 0W-30 synthetic at least? If not, drain it and put some synthetic in. > > Paul L Fisher > > 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU Titanium Silver Metallic > 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic > 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red > > Elkhorn, WI. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kelvin [mailto:mpower@obikwan.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:37 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. > > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:37:09 -0700 > From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> > Subject: Yes, oil question again...track use.. > > Ok folks, I got another oil question. I know that this might ignite a > war and all, but.... > > I'm going to be running thunderhill this coming friday. Is it ok for me > to run 0w-30 German Castrol in my car? That is what is currently in my > car. (changed about 1k miles ago). Previous owner ran 20w-50 and it > burned oil like a mofo! Burning seems to be A LOT better now. (would > suck to drain this oil and have to put another weight in) > > If this is too thin, can I just drop another quart of "xx-weight" into > the motor to try to balance/mix it out? I'm right at the top of the > dipstick right now, and I know for the track I'll have to run > .5-1.0quarts over anyhow. > > Thanks! > -kelvin > >

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#8. RE: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. - from Paul L Fisher
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:47:36 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. Shouldn't it also have a BMW LL-x something? The oil I use, Amsoil European Car Formula 5W-40 has BMW LL-04. Paul L Fisher 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU Titanium Silver Metallic 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Scott [mailto:stiles_s@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:17 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:12:25 -0700 From: "Scott" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. A useful litmus test I use for oil is whether or not it's ACEA A3 rated. If not, IMHO, it doesn't belong in our engines. There are many synthetics that aren't. I have Mercedes bulletin somewhere that lists supported and unsupported oils. They have a similar basic oil requirement to our cars, and there are a few synthetics that they specifically recommend avoiding. I'll dig it up and send it. Scott. -----Original Message----- From: Paul L Fisher [mailto:bmw@paul-fisher.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:07 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:00:26 -0500 From: "Paul L Fisher" <bmw@paul-fisher.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. I personally wouldn't run any xW-30 oil ever in any BMW. Is the 0W-30 synthetic at least? If not, drain it and put some synthetic in. Paul L Fisher 2000 540i 6 E39 M62 TU Titanium Silver Metallic 2000 M Roadster E36/7 S52 Cosmos Black Metallic 1989 325ix E30 M20 Cinnabar Red Elkhorn, WI. -----Original Message----- From: Kelvin [mailto:mpower@obikwan.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:37 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:37:09 -0700 From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> Subject: Yes, oil question again...track use.. Ok folks, I got another oil question. I know that this might ignite a war and all, but.... I'm going to be running thunderhill this coming friday. Is it ok for me to run 0w-30 German Castrol in my car? That is what is currently in my car. (changed about 1k miles ago). Previous owner ran 20w-50 and it burned oil like a mofo! Burning seems to be A LOT better now. (would suck to drain this oil and have to put another weight in) If this is too thin, can I just drop another quart of "xx-weight" into the motor to try to balance/mix it out? I'm right at the top of the dipstick right now, and I know for the track I'll have to run 5-1.0quarts over anyhow. Thanks! -kelvin -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 9/12/2006

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#9. Re: Euro Headlights - from Adam Lazur
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:13:19 -0700 From: Adam Lazur <adam@lazur.org> Subject: Re: Euro Headlights Scott (stiles_s@hotmail.com) said: > 2) I've probably adjusted the physical position of my headlamps 3 times per > side, and I think I'm finally done now. Why? The bloody dog-whistle sound > which is supposedly caused by lamps that are mounted too low. Both of mine > are perfect in terms of measurement as per the Bentley, but I still get a > bit of whistle. I'm convinced it's coming from the turn signals, but it's > quiet enough now to not worry about it. Hmm, headlight whistle from headlights eh? This is the first I've heard of it. I started getting a whistle/sucking air sound around the time I installed Depos. I thought it was the CAI, which was previously silent. Are there guidelines for a non-whistling headlight install, or anti whistle headlight installation a trial and error kind of thing? -- Adam Lazur

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. - from Kelvin
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:19:25 -0700 From: Kelvin <mpower@obikwan.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Yes, oil question again...track use.. Ok, some people have told me that 0w-30 would be too thin for track use. Ugh, I just put it in there too! :-$ Since the car still burns oil, and I will need to overfill it by a quart anyhow, can I just throw in some Mobil1 15w-50 in there to even it out somewhat? (hahaha, man I don't think this mixes linearly like octane) Is it even wise to mix different weights of oil? I'm running out to time guys! I'm heading to the track tomorrow! Thanks! -kelvin

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