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#1. RE: [E36M3] Re: '07 335i sedan - from Zack Steinkamp
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:31:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: '07 335i sedan Heya Scott -- Dang, you change your fleet as often as I change underwear. About once every few months right? ;-) Anyhow, I drove an '06 325xiT and the AWD just felt kind of weird to me. Not sure how to characterize it, but maybe I've been driving RWD BMW's for too long to appreciate it now. All that shifting of torque is a little unnerving. 3's hopefully will always be available with a manual trans, you just might have to special order it since the dealers don't seem to like to order them. -zs ('07 328iT 6mt waiting for a boat in Bremerhaven) --- Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> wrote: > Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:13:15 -0700 (PDT) > From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: '07 335i sedan > > X drive 335i sedan? That might be interesting. Make it in a iT > version (wagon) and keep a manual tranny available and I'm so there. > Of course, I doubt that will happen, but I can dream.... > > Scott
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#2. Re: '07 335i sedan - from dgcrum@jps.net
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:58:57 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: dgcrum@jps.net Subject: Re: '07 335i sedan Scott said: >X drive 335i sedan? That might be interesting. Make it in a iT version (wagon) and keep a manual tranny available and I'm so there. Of course, I doubt that will happen, but I can dream.... Or better yet, a 330xd touring six speed manual. I spent two weeks driving an E92 thus equipped just last month, including 4 days on the 'Ring, and would trade my M3 for the diesel in a minute. Sure it has a soft ride, sure it has i-drive and other electronic frivolity, BUT the ~350 ft-lbs of torque and four wheel drive more than make up for it. More than once coming out of ExMuhle, the xd would allow us to quickly close on cars that should have been much faster up the hill. Torque plus traction is king on a wet track. Oh, and it got nearly 30 mpg for the two weeks (which included autobahn (250 kph observed), many Alpine passes and the 'Ring school). If you get a chance, drive one of the current diesels---there's a reason nearly 50% of the cars sold in the EC are oil burners. - David '96 M3 (only sounds like a diesel after autocross runs...)
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Re: '07 335i sedan - from Scott McClung
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:28:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: '07 335i sedan Why yes - I do :-) Not every couple months, but sometimes more than once a year anyway... I hope you change that grungy underwear more than that..... I have automotive ADD. Of course, the car I keep wishing I had back was my E36 M3/4. I kept it for a too short 2.5 years and thought that the extra power of an E39 M5 would make me happier. Turns out I was wrong... It's all been downhill since then in terms of keeping a vehicle very long.... heh. Scott - current stable is: '06 Murano '06 Evo IX '69 Camaro that my buddy built and owned for 23 years but had to sell it '03 Mazda Protege5 - wife's car (owned for 3 years, so it's the veteran) Zack Steinkamp <thenobot@yahoo.com> wrote: Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:31:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Zack Steinkamp Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: '07 335i sedan Heya Scott -- Dang, you change your fleet as often as I change underwear. About once every few months right? ;-) Anyhow, I drove an '06 325xiT and the AWD just felt kind of weird to me. Not sure how to characterize it, but maybe I've been driving RWD BMW's for too long to appreciate it now. All that shifting of torque is a little unnerving. 3's hopefully will always be available with a manual trans, you just might have to special order it since the dealers don't seem to like to order them. -zs ('07 328iT 6mt waiting for a boat in Bremerhaven) --- Scott McClung wrote: > Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:13:15 -0700 (PDT) > From: Scott McClung > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: '07 335i sedan > > X drive 335i sedan? That might be interesting. Make it in a iT > version (wagon) and keep a manual tranny available and I'm so there. > Of course, I doubt that will happen, but I can dream.... > > Scott ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: '07 335i sedan - from Scott McClung
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:30:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: '07 335i sedan Sure - as long as we are dreaming of cars that will never be brought to the states, might as well go for gold, eh? I'd probably still opt for the turbo gas motor as the turbo helps the HP greatly up at altitude, which is nice for doing quick passing on the way to the ski slopes. Scott dgcrum@jps.net wrote: Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:58:57 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: dgcrum@jps.net Subject: Re: '07 335i sedan Scott said: >X drive 335i sedan? That might be interesting. Make it in a iT version (wagon) and keep a manual tranny available and I'm so there. Of course, I doubt that will happen, but I can dream.... Or better yet, a 330xd touring six speed manual. I spent two weeks driving an E92 thus equipped just last month, including 4 days on the 'Ring, and would trade my M3 for the diesel in a minute. Sure it has a soft ride, sure it has i-drive and other electronic frivolity, BUT the ~350 ft-lbs of torque and four wheel drive more than make up for it. More than once coming out of ExMuhle, the xd would allow us to quickly close on cars that should have been much faster up the hill. Torque plus traction is king on a wet track. Oh, and it got nearly 30 mpg for the two weeks (which included autobahn (250 kph observed), many Alpine passes and the 'Ring school).. If you get a chance, drive one of the current diesels---there's a reason nearly 50% of the cars sold in the EC are oil burners. - David '96 M3 (only sounds like a diesel after autocross runs...) ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#5. LED Taillights - from Foley, Brian
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:30:36 -0400 From: "Foley, Brian" <bfoley@cmpd.org> Subject: LED Taillights Has anyone tried the new LED taillights available for the E36/M3 cars? I've been somewhat interested in seeing quality of manufacture. I also wonder if they'll activate the dreaded Check code. Bavarian Autosport is the first mainstream catalog I've seen offering them, at about $349.00/pr. Autowerks offers this same taillight at $319.00/pr. http://www.autowerks.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=22699&cat= 312&page=1 Umnitza offers a different type LED at $319.00/pr. http://www.umnitza.com/product_info.php?cPath=450_459&products_id=1121 Anyone try these yet? Brian Foley '97 M3/4
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: '07 335i sedan - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:48:08 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: '07 335i sedan On Sep 26, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Richard Harden wrote: > Here is another thread, in which the owner of Vishnu Tuning (HUGE > Mitsubishi EVO tuner) purchased a 335i and has begun to play with > the ECU parameters, etc of the new 335i: > http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=597621 > > Thought it might be interesting to you folks discussing upgrades... Ooh, boy. Shiv's cars are very fast, but they tend not to last too long ... - Mark, 2005 Car & Driver 25 Hour Enduro team member ... ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Did a clutch R&R...some observations and a few questions - from Eric Giles
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:03:54 -0500 From: "Eric Giles" <egiles@c-gate.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Did a clutch R&R...some observations and a few questions Chester- From my relatively limited experience personally replacing clutch discs, generally both sides of the disc are worn about the same amount-with the side facing the flywheel showing the greater amount of wear. Why yours is different I have no idea. As far as the smoothness, I think it has to do with the fact of cleaning off all of the splines and relubricating with the grease of your choice. The newer springs in the clutch disc itself probably contribute to this also, but I would also think a new pressure plate would have an effect too-but you reused the one you had, so maybe not to a great extent. I think it is just having everything cleaned and relubed, and over time as the clutch surface wears and deposits the dust everywhere, it tends to stiffen up again. I replaced the clutch on my friend's '90 325is recently with all OEM parts, and he was actually a bit unhappy because of how smooth and overly light the clutch pedal action is! I thought it was great, but I guess he had gotten used to the stiffer pedal feel a worn assembly gives. Eric Giles '88 M3 -----Original Message----- From: Chester Wong [mailto:chester_p_wong@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:27 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Did a clutch R&R...some observations and a few questions Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:17:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Did a clutch R&R...some observations and a few questions So a few months ago, I started hearing this noise from the car every time I pressed the clutch pedal. I suspected it was a throwout bearing on the way out so I finally came to my senses and decided to change it out since I didn't want to ruin my pre$$ure plate. A little background: my clutch is a custom solution consisting of a modified E34M5 flywheel (about 13 lbs), stock E34M5 disc and Sachs HD pressure plate. I saw a picture of Dinan's solution years ago and thought I could develop the same thing for a fraction of the cost. Anyway, the clutch had about 90k miles and numerous track days so up on the lift the car went on Sunday. My car is now my daily beater and it's quite clear that it doesn't get the care it used to. It's also my snowboard taxi so it's seen a fair amount of salt over the past three or four seasons. Speaking of expensive exhaust manifold studs, I shot the nuts with liquid wrench and then used an impact gun to slowly take them off. I think using an impact gun doesn't lead to galling as if you were to use a socket and breaker bar...just a theory of mine. Anyway, those came off with no drama as well as the cat to cat-back exhaust connection (much to my relief). Dropped the driveshaft only to find my guibo was cracked in about thirty different places. HAHAHA! It looked pretty bad and didn't look like it would survive another few thousand miles... So now the good part...tranny comes off and I start inspecting everything.. Yep...throwout bearing...not so good. It still spun but made more of a noise akin to those cheap '80s rollerskates... This was also a regular E36M3 throwout bearing before they revised it and put metal at the contact point where the clutch fork pushes against the bearing body(1) and the contact points were worn pretty deeply...maybe 1mm into the plastic. The face of the throwout bearing that contacts the pressure plate was "grooved" from contact with the fingers. I'm not sure if this is normal for a high mileage clutch. Any first hand experience here? The fingers of the pressure plate also showed wear from contact with the throwout bearing, but I assume that was natural and reused the pressure plate..esp in light of the recent discovery...more to follow. The clutch disc fell out when I remove the pressure plate as I forgot to insert the clutch alignment tool. Actually, scratch that, I forgot to bring the tool altogether...doh! The disc was ruined (dented), but it didn't really matter as the side that contacts the pressure plate was paper thin. The other side (that touches the flywheel) still had plenty of meat on it. Is this normal? First hand experience with high mileage clutches again, please =P The flywheel showed absolutely no signs of wear. This further supports my theory that all those LTW aluminum flywheels out there that boast of a user replaceable friction ring is just advertising bullsh*t when the steel friction ring is needed because you can't have a clutch disc touch bare aluminum....but if they want to spin it as an advantage, go right ahead. So...cleaned all of the splines on the tranny input shaft, lubed it up lightly, cleaned everything else and bolted the clutch back together with a new disc and everything went back together pretty smoothly. Get this: the clutch is now much, much, much more easy to operate. Can anyone explain why a worn clutch requires more effort to push? I did blow out all of the clutch dust out of the pressure plate so I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it. O, about the pressure plate note, Sachs makes three pressure plates for the E34M5: a stock one, a HD one, and a race one. Don't ever use the stock one for the E36M3. Some vendors out there tell you to replace the slave cylinder with one that is smaller but that's just a kludge, imo. The HD version gives you the same pedal effort as a regular stock E36M3 clutch. Anyway, when I first embarked on this project, the HD one was $300 and the race version was $800. We checked out the pressure plate and noticed that the pressure plate ring was a different material and had a thin steel surface bonded to it. We thought it was normal until a few months down the road, we got a HD one and noticed that the thin material was not there. So I had a new HD version on hand yesterday and we compared it. My pressure plate was noticeably lighter than the HD one. So apparently I got the $800 race version by mistake.. WOO HOO! FWIW, Chester (1) I think when I saw Wayne's first E46M3 clutch kit, it was similar to, if not the same as, the E36M3 part. Since Wayne has had a few UUC clutches blow up in his car, we've gone through a few kits and I noticed recently that the latest throwout bearings have metal wrapped around the tab....just an observation ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#8. Need 506 Computer - from Jon@treehouseracing.com
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:32:46 -0500 From: "Jon@treehouseracing.com" <jon@treehouseracing.com> Subject: Need 506 Computer Anyone have one? Thanks, Jon ______________________________________________ Jon Siccardi - DM #053 #052- Retired TreehouseRacing.com M50conversion.com 615.333.9118 ______________________________________________
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Did a clutch R&R...some observations and a few questions - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:58:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Did a clutch R&R...some observations and a few questions --- Eric Giles <egiles@c-gate.net> wrote: > From my relatively limited experience personally replacing clutch discs, > generally both sides of the disc are worn about the same amount-with the > side facing the flywheel showing the greater amount of wear. Why yours is > different I have no idea. I guess it depends on how the disc is binding on the tranny input spline. I guess with my clutch, the disc stayed more towwards the pressure plate and accelerated the wear on that side. Go figure. > As far as the smoothness, I think it has to do with the fact of cleaning off > all of the splines and relubricating with the grease of your choice. The > newer springs in the clutch disc itself probably contribute to this also, > but I would also think a new pressure plate would have an effect too-but you > reused the one you had, so maybe not to a great extent. It would have been interesting to button the clutch back up exactly as it was with just the input shaft cleaned and lubed. Then clean out the pressure plate, etc. Hahaha. O well...I'm just glad that it's much lighter since it was quite a workout to drive that thing in stop and go traffic. Next up: ACT HD clutch in the Elise. =P Chester
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#10. Re: [E36M3] LED Taillights - from Carlos Lopez
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:08:41 -0400 From: "Carlos Lopez" <clopez98m3@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] LED Taillights On 9/26/06, Foley, Brian <bfoley@cmpd.org> wrote: > > >Bavarian Autosport is the first mainstream catalog I've seen offering > >them, at about $349.00/pr. $300 bucks for tail lights? Why when there are Altezza ones to be had for less? ;-) Speaking of tail lights I have a set of yurro ones for the rear of a 2 door E36 M3. They say "achtung" and everything on them so they must be German (they came from Germany anyway). $100 + shipping and they're yours. Carlos 98 M3 already has a set of bling bling yurro lights all around