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#1. Re: [E36M3] E36 Rear Wheel Bearings - from Jack - Elephant Motorsports
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:18:28 -0400 From: "Jack - Elephant Motorsports" <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 Rear Wheel Bearings Trust me dude, with the tool it will be pretty easy. I did 3 rears and 2 fronts on the iX (front iX bearings are like rears on all non AWD BMW's) and 'twas not so bad. The first rear was difficult as the bearing had failed and the inner race seized on the spindle. I had to dremel and crack it off. Then the first installed bearing suffered the fate of being the learning curve with a new tool (stupid mistake though) thus 3 rears. ; ) Jack Money Elephant Motorsports http://www.elephantmotorsports.com On 10/16/06, Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> wrote: > > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:33:25 -0400 > From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> > Subject: E36 Rear Wheel Bearings > > We're planning to do a rear wheel bearing R&R on a friend's 325i race car > this Friday. We'll have the proper installation tool (on loan from a > friend, > thanks Jack!) and a well equipped garage, but the job itself will be a > first > for both of us. > > Anyone BTDT, have hints/tips/gotchas? > > Neil > Fort Wayne, IN > 96 M3 - Bastard child > 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic > 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD
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#2. Re: [E36M3] E36 Rear Wheel Bearings - from Chester Wong
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:35:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 Rear Wheel Bearings Care to share that learning experience? =) Chester --- Jack - Elephant Motorsports <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> wrote: > Then the first installed bearing suffered the fate of being the > learning curve with a new tool (stupid mistake though) thus 3 rears. ; )
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#3. Re: [E36M3] E36 Rear Wheel Bearings - from Jack - Elephant Motorsports
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:41:16 -0400 From: "Jack - Elephant Motorsports" <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 Rear Wheel Bearings Unfortunately I can't really disguise the mistake as part of a learning curve, much as I'd like to. I simply did it wrong (used the wrong adaptor part) and the installation of the bearing killed it. I tried gently removing it hoping to not ruin it but the damage was done. Actually it was another example of why a smooth and dignified application of torque is appropriate. When you feel resistance which makes you wonder why it's getting so tough, best thing is to stop and evaluate, not turn more. ; ) The down side was that I had no other bearing, it was a Sunday and the car had been sitting on jack stands for nearly 3 weeks (wife had just had our 1st baby) so there was no way to not get that thing going. Put it together and drove it for a week or so, purchased additional bearing, disassemble/reassemble, all is good. Let's loosely call the entire process a "learning curve" for my sake. I can assure you, I've never made that mistake again. Jack Money Elephant Motorsports http://www.elephantmotorsports.com On 10/16/06, Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Care to share that learning experience? =) > > Chester > > --- Jack - Elephant Motorsports <jack@elephantmotorsports.com> wrote: > > Then the first installed bearing suffered the fate of being the > > learning curve with a new tool (stupid mistake though) thus 3 rears. ; > ) > > > >
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#4. Re: [E36M3] E36 Rear Wheel Bearings - from Evan Bradford
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Evan Bradford <evbrad2002@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 Rear Wheel Bearings Beware of the axle stub being seized in the hub/bearing. My efforts to remove the axle stub were unsuccessful in spite of using many of the tips and tricks gleaned from various boards. Ultimately, I had to remove the entire RTA to have a machine shop press out the half shaft...which they did using 60 tons (yes, 60) of pressure...oh, and it's important to note that they broke the RTA and buggered the stub threads in the process! A salvage-RTA/half-shaft-w/new bushings-and-bearings later, I was back up and running I If the stub is not cooperating after soaking it in PB Blaster and smacking it good using a brass drift and a substantial "pursuader", try heating it up real good; heat is apparently the trick. Needless to say, my experience wasn't a positive one, largely due to my novice shade-tree status, no doubt. I've read many posts from folks saying this is one job they would take to a shop, but if you're experienced and have a well outfitted shop, you'll probably come out okay. Good luck! Evan '98 M3 coupe '92 318is We're planning to do a rear wheel bearing R&R on a friend's 325i race car this Friday. We'll have the proper installation tool (on loan from a friend, thanks Jack!) and a well equipped garage, but the job itself will be a first for both of us. Anyone BTDT, have hints/tips/gotchas? --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
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#5. Carfax request - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:02:20 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Carfax request Anybody have an open Carfax account? I may want to run a report in the next day or two. Shoot me an e-mail. Thanks, Lowell Seaton '95 M3
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#6. RE: [E36M3] observation: new tires and alignment - from Alexander Fadeev
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:08:03 -0400 From: "Alexander Fadeev" <afadeev@smu.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] observation: new tires and alignment Kelvin [mailto:mpower@obikwan.com] wrote: > > My '95 had 235/40-17 Michelin Pilot Sport I's on them. [...] > I recently picked up a set of SO3s from TireRack during their > blowout. I got them in 225/45-17 [...] > > The car definitely is a lot "smoother" riding now. Prior to > the SO3s with the PS1s, the car felt "harsh" and rough. Kelvin, As Paul has mentioned, you are comparing taller profile tires _with_ full tread to a different brand/model of worn-off, wider, lower profile tires that had gone through numerous heat cycles. > They are definitely quieter than the PS1s. All tires change the tune with wear. Typically not for the better (the less tread - the noisier). > One other thing is that I got an alignment along with the new > tires. The shop said my car was not out of spec by very much. A tire salesman somewhere has collected a bonus for selling a completely un-warranted (but highly profitable) alignment job on top of tires. Unless you went to a specialty shop with a well maintained and regularly calibrated alignment rack (Cheapo-lube and tires'B'cheap aint it), the best thing that could have happened is the shop charging you for the alignment and doing NOTHING. If a cheapo shop starts screwing with alignment, random outcomes abound. > The car tramlines a lot LESS now! Before with the PS1s the car > would tramline all over the place. I'm not sure if that tramlining > was a function of the tire or the alignment. It could be if you had negative toe or tons of negative camber. Not likely on a street driven car that was "not out of spec by very much". The most likely culprit are the news vs. worn tires. For what it's worth, S03's are some of the worst tramlining tires out there. Especially after they are 1/2 worn. Ask me how I know (still love them for the wet traction though). YMMV (truly!) alex f
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#7. RE: [E36M3] observation: new tires and alignment - from dave@sasdatalink.com
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:27:00 -0600 (MDT) From: dave@sasdatalink.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] observation: new tires and alignment > A tire salesman somewhere has collected a bonus for selling a completely > un-warranted (but highly profitable) alignment job on top of tires. > Unless you went to a specialty shop with a well maintained and regularly > calibrated alignment rack (Cheapo-lube and tires'B'cheap aint it), the > best > thing that could have happened is the shop charging you for the alignment > and doing NOTHING. If a cheapo shop starts screwing with alignment, random > outcomes abound. I agree 100%. Most shops cant do an alignment for sh**. The place I go to charges $120 for a 4 wheel alignment on the M3 but they set it, drive it, then check it again. Each adjustment gets at least one test drive and then is checked again. Nobody else around here even cares enough to do that. Dave
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#8. Re: [E36M3]Any hardcore EEs (like designing circuits) out - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:57:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] <OT> Any hardcore EEs (like designing circuits) out there? On Mon, October 16, 2006 6:16 pm, Carlos Lopez said: > I think the Bassett hound is an EE. :-) Well, that's what the diploma on the wall says, anyway. :-) Jim Bassett - already in touch with Chester
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#9. Re: observation: new tires and alignment - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:57:36 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: observation: new tires and alignment In a message dated 10/16/06 11:18:15 PM Central Daylight Time, afadeev@smu.edu writes: For what it's worth, S03's are some of the worst tramlining tires out there. Especially after they are 1/2 worn. Ask me how I know (still love them for the wet traction though). ------------------------------------------------- In my experience, increasing front tire pressure dramatically reduces tramlining. It could be the tire store/alignment shop put more air pressure in your new S03's than your old worn out Michelins. I'm not sure exactly which Michelin tires you are talking about. If it is the original '95 M3 Michelin Pilot SX MXX3 tires, I remember them being horrible for tramlining - I can't imagine too many tires being worse. The Michelin Pilot SX MXX3 also had brutally stiff sidewalls and were scary dangerous in the rain. However, they remain my all-time favorite tire. The stiff sidewall made them extremely responsive and quick turn in. Plus they were surprisingly quiet until they were almost bald. Lowell Seaton '95 M3
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Re: observation: new tires and alignment - from Scott
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:20:28 -0700 From: "Scott" <stiles_s@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: observation: new tires and alignment I agree strongly w/the tramlining comment below. I've had 3 sets of S03s on 3 different cars and the change in tramlining w/these tires was pretty severe. Another nit about the S03 is that they are incredibly heavy. IIRC they're about 5lbs heavier per tire than the Pilot Sport. On the plus side, they're great in the rain... Scott. -----Original Message----- From: LoweSeaton@aol.com [mailto:LoweSeaton@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:06 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: observation: new tires and alignment Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:57:36 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: observation: new tires and alignment In a message dated 10/16/06 11:18:15 PM Central Daylight Time, afadeev@smu.edu writes: For what it's worth, S03's are some of the worst tramlining tires out there. Especially after they are 1/2 worn. Ask me how I know (still love them for the wet traction though).